Atlanta considers banning baggy pants
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epidemic....?!?! like the bird flu...?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070823/ap_on_fe_st/atlanta_sagging_pants
2 hours, 10 minutes ago
Baggy pants that show boxer shorts or thongs would be illegal under a proposed amendment to Atlanta's indecency laws.
The amendment, sponsored by city councilman C.T. Martin, states that sagging pants are an "epidemic" that is becoming a "major concern" around the country.
"Little children see it and want to adopt it, thinking it's the in thing," Martin said Wednesday. "I don't want young people thinking that half-dressing is the way to go. I want them to think about their future."
The proposed ordinance would also bar women from showing the strap of a thong beneath their pants. They would also be prohibited from wearing jogging bras in public or show a bra strap, said Debbie Seagraves, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Georgia.
The proposed ordinance states that "the indecent exposure of his or her undergarments" would be unlawful in a public place. It would go in the same portion of the city code that outlaws sex in public and the exposure or fondling of genitals.
The penalty would be a fine in an amount to be determined, Martin said.
But Seagraves said any legislation that creates a dress code would not survive a court challenge. She said the law could not be enforced in a nondiscriminatory way because it targets something that came out of the black youth culture.
"This is a racial profiling bill that promotes and establishes a framework for an additional type of racial profiling," Seagraves said.
Martin, who is black, said he plans to hold public hearings and vet the proposal through churches, civil rights groups and neighborhood organizations. The proposal will get its first public airing next Tuesday in the City Council's Public Safety Committee.
"The purpose of the paper is to generate some conversation to see if we can find a solution," Martin said. "It will be like all the discussions we've had around the value of the hip-hop culture. We know there are First Amendment issues ... and some will say I'm just trying to put young black men in jail, but it's going to be fines."
Makeda Johnson, an Atlanta mother of a 14-year-old girl, said she is glad Martin introduced the proposal. She does not want to see a law against clothing, but said she thinks teenagers are sending a message with a way of dressing that is based in jailhouse behavior.
Atlanta would not be the first city to take on sagging pants.
Earlier this year, the town council in Delcambre, La., passed an ordinance that carries a fine of up to $500 or six months in jail for exposing underwear in public. Several other municipalities and parish governments in Louisiana have enacted similar laws in recent months.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070823/ap_on_fe_st/atlanta_sagging_pants
2 hours, 10 minutes ago
Baggy pants that show boxer shorts or thongs would be illegal under a proposed amendment to Atlanta's indecency laws.
The amendment, sponsored by city councilman C.T. Martin, states that sagging pants are an "epidemic" that is becoming a "major concern" around the country.
"Little children see it and want to adopt it, thinking it's the in thing," Martin said Wednesday. "I don't want young people thinking that half-dressing is the way to go. I want them to think about their future."
The proposed ordinance would also bar women from showing the strap of a thong beneath their pants. They would also be prohibited from wearing jogging bras in public or show a bra strap, said Debbie Seagraves, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Georgia.
The proposed ordinance states that "the indecent exposure of his or her undergarments" would be unlawful in a public place. It would go in the same portion of the city code that outlaws sex in public and the exposure or fondling of genitals.
The penalty would be a fine in an amount to be determined, Martin said.
But Seagraves said any legislation that creates a dress code would not survive a court challenge. She said the law could not be enforced in a nondiscriminatory way because it targets something that came out of the black youth culture.
"This is a racial profiling bill that promotes and establishes a framework for an additional type of racial profiling," Seagraves said.
Martin, who is black, said he plans to hold public hearings and vet the proposal through churches, civil rights groups and neighborhood organizations. The proposal will get its first public airing next Tuesday in the City Council's Public Safety Committee.
"The purpose of the paper is to generate some conversation to see if we can find a solution," Martin said. "It will be like all the discussions we've had around the value of the hip-hop culture. We know there are First Amendment issues ... and some will say I'm just trying to put young black men in jail, but it's going to be fines."
Makeda Johnson, an Atlanta mother of a 14-year-old girl, said she is glad Martin introduced the proposal. She does not want to see a law against clothing, but said she thinks teenagers are sending a message with a way of dressing that is based in jailhouse behavior.
Atlanta would not be the first city to take on sagging pants.
Earlier this year, the town council in Delcambre, La., passed an ordinance that carries a fine of up to $500 or six months in jail for exposing underwear in public. Several other municipalities and parish governments in Louisiana have enacted similar laws in recent months.
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Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
how about if these assholes concentrate on getting the message out to the kids that dog fighting is an epidemic instead ......
And when politicians propose such bullshit it tends to make the "problem" worse.
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The water system is nearly 100 years old and breaks daily but is not upgraded. They continually pay the daily EPA fine instead.
The lowest common denominator voting in the lowest common denominator what else would you expect from a city that named a road after Cynthia Mckinney and Ralph David Abernathy?
Add that to the Criminal Bill Campbell as the mayor for a good long while stealing money from everywhere he could.
At least Mayor Shirley Franklin is doing as good a job as she can in that piss poor environment.
To stop saggy pants you would have to change the culture of the people..... GOOD freaking luck with that...Bill Cosby. The people don't want to change and they do pretty well begging and stealing so why work?
The people don't have any money, fines are ridiculous when you can't pay your rent or power if those aren't a priority...I seriously doubt a fine will be, and the jail is full.
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No one laughs harder and longer than I do when I see people dressed that way ( and for the record, there's plenty of white people and of other races, dressing that way). It's hilarious!
It's cute when I put a pair of my three year old son's shorts, on my one year old son. Damn cute!
When you're four years old or older, you look like a fuckin' circus clown, lol!
Guys, if you can't walk up the street without constantly grabbing your pants and pulling them up, so they rest comfortably right below your ass cheeks and don't fall to your ankles; then, you should stop wearing your pants just below your ass cheeks. Size 48 pants in a 28 waist, make you look like a bozo with a dressing disorder. I see these clowns walking up the street and their pants routinely fall down. Sorry buddy, I don't want to see your boxer shorts and anything else. It's just plain stupid and ignorant. You don't go out in public in your underwear. It's not offensive to me, it's just bad form, thrashy, classless and downright butt-ugly.
Guys, if you're a fat guy, dude, knock it off! No one wants to see that!
Ladies, while I highly admire your thongs in the privacy of the home, it's trashy, bad form, classless and downright stupid! Sweetheart, if you're 5' 6" and weigh-in at 170 lbs, you need to keep your thong hidden, your pants pulled up, wear looser fitting jeans and shirts that cover your mid-rift.
Wearing size 5 jeans with a size 9 ass, really does you no justice. There are many beautiful, sexy and higly attractive women who are over-weight. But most of them know how to dress themselves and highlight their attributes....correctly.
I saw this chick in the airport in Philly that her pants were so low and her shirt was so short that you could not only see her thong in the back BUT IN THE FRONT AS WELL! Fucking disgusting fashion disaster.
-Enoch Powell
abide by it or, join the baggy pants revolution, and hope to change minds.
I never understood the sloppy "I just shit myself" look personally...
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I only hope the parents of these kids are taking lots of pictures to show to their grandkids one day, so they can have a big laugh at mom & dad's expense. "Omg mom, I can't believe you used to run around with your underwear sticking out!"
they will never get me on board with this one! this is what makes putting up with the summer heat worthwhile
that said, i guess it's their city. i see no reason they can't decide this is how they want their community to be if they are also allowed to control where people can smoke, what they can smoke, parking tickets, public drunkenness, and so on.
We agree on this!
I think that look of pants belted BELOW the ass looks completely ASSinine, however its a free country, or at least it was at one time, and there's more important things to worry about.
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what difference does that make? why is naked bad? where is the line drawn? what if their shirt is so open you see nipples?
i say if you can ban nudity, you can ban clothes you don't like. i think it's fucking stupid and a waste of time, but i don't live there so it isn't my problem.
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Any true PJ fan supports assless chaps for one obvious reason: Mike McCready's supple ass.
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So brutalize me with music.”
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I heard in the right light that it's so tight it's almost shines...
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If they just outlawed underwear there wouldn't be any issues of it being exposed by baggy or any other kind of clothing.
Fucktards.
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of seeing them all burned!
Whoever created thongs is an idiot. I can't stand them....its like walking around with a permanent wedgie.....stupid design!
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OMG can you imagine going into a SanFran club or restaurant etc. and be given a seat that some guy with assless chaps just left!!! I would want it bleached first!
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