Just a minor clarification. To some, Lieberman may be "right-leaning" -- but he still caucuses with the Democrats. For now. After he tosses Barry Obama under the bus, they might kick him out of the party for good.
The only thing he is really right leaning on is our foreign policy. He is still left leaning on most other issues.
Didn't say that. We were talking about the ridiculous notion of a president being on vacation, in which you (I think) said laws couldn't be passed (for some reason) while Bush was in Crawford.
My point is, I don't think Clinton was thinking much about signing a bill while Monica was choking down his manhood or lighting his cigar. Just because you are sitting in the Oval Office doesn't mean you are working ... and just because you aren't sitting in the Oval Office doesn't mean you're not working.
Like I said, there are a thousand reasons to denigrate GWB. The fact that he went on "vacation" isn't one of them. The President is NEVER off the clock.
So he can sign legislation when he's fishing, golfing, or cutting brush? Interesting.
Of course I know that the President is hardly ever "off the clock" and no I did not say legislation couldn't be passed while he was in TX, ME, wherever. I was just making the point that he's been away from the White House "on vacation" more than any other President in history.
So he can sign legislation when he's fishing, golfing, or cutting brush? Interesting.
Of course I know that the President is hardly ever "off the clock" and no I did not say legislation couldn't be passed while he was in TX, ME, wherever. I was just making the point that he's been away from the White House "on vacation" more than any other President in history.
The reason that this is irrelevant is because Congress actually cannot debate and pass legislation while on recess.
I wouldn't be surprised to find out that most sessions of Congress have a had a break for vacation before Labor Day.
They definitely have. They usually attempt to resolve some business before adjourning though. Especially when gas is $4 per gallon. Also, this is an election year meaning that most Congressmen won't want to be in session throughout October when they could be in their districts trying to remain in office.
Ha! Bush started a war based on lies, gives up trying to find OBL, takes the most vacation of any President ever, ignored the Constitution in tapping phone lines of Americans, ignored the laws of the Geneva Conventions in torturing terror suspects, etc, etc, etc....
but a guy gets a BJ and it's the end of the world. Priceless.
Talk about your standard left talking points!
There were WMD, they were moved to Syria, so that wasn't a lie. He is still trying to find OBL, where did you hear we stopped? Talk about ignoring the constitution, democrats routinely want to stop gun ownership, or free speech with the fairness doctrine. I don't like government intrusion on my life, but if it helps catch terrorists... so be it, I have nothing to hide! US already gives too many rights to terrorist! Maybe they have a bomb strapped to your car, and they won't get the location because they wouldn't talk!
It's not the BJ, its the lack of action thoughout his presidency. If Clinton would have taken some action (the unpopular stuff Bush got stuck with), 9-11 probably wouldn't have happened. But you probably think it was an inside job anyway!
i see this democrt controlled congress bullshit all the time... and it is opure bullshit... the dems have a majority in the house, that is correct, but it is a dead heat in the senate with 49 democrats and 49 republicans and 2 independents, lieberman (right leaning) and Sanders (socialist)
i really wish people could sift through the horseshit propaganda... i have no clue why people just continue to repeat the "democrat controlled congress" line...
Leiberman is basically a Democrat, giving an advantage to the Dems in the Senate. Most Democrats are socialists, at least one has the balls to call himself one! So both independants lean left, but regardless:
Congress = Senate + HOR = Equal + Dem Controlled => Dem Controlled Congress.
It's pretty simple! Too bad you couldn't see through the horseshit propaganda!
They definitely have. They usually attempt to resolve some business before adjourning though. Especially when gas is $4 per gallon. Also, this is an election year meaning that most Congressmen won't want to be in session throughout October when they could be in their districts trying to remain in office.
There were WMD, they were moved to Syria, so that wasn't a lie. He is still trying to find OBL, where did you hear we stopped? Talk about ignoring the constitution, democrats routinely want to stop gun ownership, or free speech with the fairness doctrine. I don't like government intrusion on my life, but if it helps catch terrorists... so be it, I have nothing to hide! US already gives too many rights to terrorist! Maybe they have a bomb strapped to your car, and they won't get the location because they wouldn't talk!
It's not the BJ, its the lack of action thoughout his presidency. If Clinton would have taken some action (the unpopular stuff Bush got stuck with), 9-11 probably wouldn't have happened. But you probably think it was an inside job anyway!
Yeah unpopular stuff like a budget surplus and low gas prices. People hate that stuff, yep.
Bush said he didn't really think about OBL anymore. Or maybe you forgot?
Yeah unpopular stuff like a budget surplus and low gas prices. People hate that stuff, yep.
Bush said he didn't really think about OBL anymore. Or maybe you forgot?
You can't have a budget surplus and safety. Clinton had a budget surplus, meanwhile countless terrorist attacks happen on his watch. These lead to 9-11. Since 9-11 there hasn't been a terrorist attack on this country... money well spent!
High gas prices are DIRECTLY atributed to the policies of the left! They don't want to drill, they don't want nuclear, they don't want refineries. They have no energy plan for the future! Some have even been quoted saying that "high gas prices would be good for the country"!
You really twisted Bush's words on this one. Bush was basically saying that capturing one man on the run, hiding in caves, was not his top priority. Not that he gave up looking for him, or doesn't care! Here is the quote in question:
Q But don't you believe that the threat that bin Laden posed won't truly be eliminated until he is found either dead or alive?
THE PRESIDENT: Well, as I say, we haven't heard much from him. And I wouldn't necessarily say he's at the center of any command structure. And, again, I don't know where he is. I -- I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him. I know he is on the run. I was concerned about him, when he had taken over a country. I was concerned about the fact that he was basically running Afghanistan and calling the shots for the Taliban.
But once we set out the policy and started executing the plan, he became -- we shoved him out more and more on the margins. He has no place to train his al Qaeda killers anymore. And if we -- excuse me for a minute -- and if we find a training camp, we'll take care of it. Either we will or our friends will. That's one of the things -- part of the new phase that's becoming apparent to the American people is that we're working closely with other governments to deny sanctuary, or training, or a place to hide, or a place to raise money.
And we've got more work to do. See, that's the thing the American people have got to understand, that we've only been at this six months. This is going to be a long struggle. I keep saying that; I don't know whether you all believe me or not. But time will show you that it's going to take a long time to achieve this objective. And I can assure you, I am not going to blink. And I'm not going to get tired. Because I know what is at stake. And history has called us to action, and I am going to seize this moment for the good of the world, for peace in the world and for freedom.
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The only thing he is really right leaning on is our foreign policy. He is still left leaning on most other issues.
So he can sign legislation when he's fishing, golfing, or cutting brush? Interesting.
Of course I know that the President is hardly ever "off the clock" and no I did not say legislation couldn't be passed while he was in TX, ME, wherever. I was just making the point that he's been away from the White House "on vacation" more than any other President in history.
The reason that this is irrelevant is because Congress actually cannot debate and pass legislation while on recess.
Fine.
I wouldn't be surprised to find out that most sessions of Congress have a had a break for vacation before Labor Day.
They definitely have. They usually attempt to resolve some business before adjourning though. Especially when gas is $4 per gallon. Also, this is an election year meaning that most Congressmen won't want to be in session throughout October when they could be in their districts trying to remain in office.
Talk about your standard left talking points!
There were WMD, they were moved to Syria, so that wasn't a lie. He is still trying to find OBL, where did you hear we stopped? Talk about ignoring the constitution, democrats routinely want to stop gun ownership, or free speech with the fairness doctrine. I don't like government intrusion on my life, but if it helps catch terrorists... so be it, I have nothing to hide! US already gives too many rights to terrorist! Maybe they have a bomb strapped to your car, and they won't get the location because they wouldn't talk!
It's not the BJ, its the lack of action thoughout his presidency. If Clinton would have taken some action (the unpopular stuff Bush got stuck with), 9-11 probably wouldn't have happened. But you probably think it was an inside job anyway!
Leiberman is basically a Democrat, giving an advantage to the Dems in the Senate. Most Democrats are socialists, at least one has the balls to call himself one! So both independants lean left, but regardless:
Congress = Senate + HOR = Equal + Dem Controlled => Dem Controlled Congress.
It's pretty simple! Too bad you couldn't see through the horseshit propaganda!
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Gas has actually gone down a bit lately.
Yeah unpopular stuff like a budget surplus and low gas prices. People hate that stuff, yep.
Bush said he didn't really think about OBL anymore. Or maybe you forgot?
Uh ... yeah, I'm pretty sure he can. Technology is a wonderful thing.
for the least they could possibly do
You can't have a budget surplus and safety. Clinton had a budget surplus, meanwhile countless terrorist attacks happen on his watch. These lead to 9-11. Since 9-11 there hasn't been a terrorist attack on this country... money well spent!
High gas prices are DIRECTLY atributed to the policies of the left! They don't want to drill, they don't want nuclear, they don't want refineries. They have no energy plan for the future! Some have even been quoted saying that "high gas prices would be good for the country"!
You really twisted Bush's words on this one. Bush was basically saying that capturing one man on the run, hiding in caves, was not his top priority. Not that he gave up looking for him, or doesn't care! Here is the quote in question:
Q But don't you believe that the threat that bin Laden posed won't truly be eliminated until he is found either dead or alive?
THE PRESIDENT: Well, as I say, we haven't heard much from him. And I wouldn't necessarily say he's at the center of any command structure. And, again, I don't know where he is. I -- I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him. I know he is on the run. I was concerned about him, when he had taken over a country. I was concerned about the fact that he was basically running Afghanistan and calling the shots for the Taliban.
But once we set out the policy and started executing the plan, he became -- we shoved him out more and more on the margins. He has no place to train his al Qaeda killers anymore. And if we -- excuse me for a minute -- and if we find a training camp, we'll take care of it. Either we will or our friends will. That's one of the things -- part of the new phase that's becoming apparent to the American people is that we're working closely with other governments to deny sanctuary, or training, or a place to hide, or a place to raise money.
And we've got more work to do. See, that's the thing the American people have got to understand, that we've only been at this six months. This is going to be a long struggle. I keep saying that; I don't know whether you all believe me or not. But time will show you that it's going to take a long time to achieve this objective. And I can assure you, I am not going to blink. And I'm not going to get tired. Because I know what is at stake. And history has called us to action, and I am going to seize this moment for the good of the world, for peace in the world and for freedom.
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