Excuses already?

cincybearcat

Heard Mr. Reid talking about how you can't place arbitrary timelines on getting things accomplished....

Hmmmm, this sounds familiar.

Is it more of the same after all? I guess we'll sit back, empty our wallets and see what happens.

jeffbr

Hahahaha. My first post after Obama was elected was that he and Pelosi have no more excuses for being inefficient and ineffective.

Hope and change!

inmytree

cincybearcat wrote:

Heard Mr. Reid talking about how you can't place arbitrary timelines on getting things accomplished....

Hmmmm, this sounds familiar.

Is it more of the same after all? I guess we'll sit back, empty our wallets and see what happens.

Harry Reid is a idiot...

tybird

The proof will be in the pudding....will Congress sit on its collective ass like it has for the last two years, or will they actually try to do something??? Will the Obama team suddenly start acting like the Bushes and the Clintons by attempting to grab everything that ain't nailed down?? We will see.....

decides2dream

tybird wrote:

The proof will be in the pudding....will Congress sit on its collective ass like it has for the last two years, or will they actually try to do something??? Will the Obama team suddenly start acting like the Bushes and the Clintons by attempting to grab everything that ain't nailed down?? We will see.....

exactly.
sheesh.
the man isn't even in office yet! and no, change does not happen overnight...but we will see if he puts the wheels in motion. i've waiting 8 long years, i think i can wait and see for a bit.....

even flow?

Don't worry Cinci it will be the same old, same old come a year or less from now. Wouldn't a real wake up call or change had been to actually scare the two parties by having a third or fourth party make some real noise. Ah, yeah!

rebornFixer

even flow? wrote:

Don't worry Cinci it will be the same old, same old come a year or less from now. Wouldn't a real wake up call or change had been to actually scare the two parties by having a third or fourth party make some real noise. Ah, yeah!

I am inclined to agree ... While this election result might be good for the American soul, so to speak, I am not sure what massive changes can be accomplished under the current economic and sociopolical conditions. What's Obama going to do, exactly? Time will tell. I suspect the U.S. will still be the U.S., when all is said and done.

Urban Hiker

decides2dream wrote:

exactly.
sheesh.
the man isn't even in office yet! and no, change does not happen overnight...but we will see if he puts the wheels in motion. i've waiting 8 long years, i think i can wait and see for a bit.....

Don't wait, work. We the people have to make sure the progressive agenda stays intact. That can start now.

angelica

I'm basically with you guys....

angelica

Urban Hiker wrote:

Don't wait, work. We the people have to make sure the progressive agenda stays intact. That can start now.

cool!

mammasan

Not much is going to change under Obama and I think a lot of liberals and progressives will be extremely disappointed in a few years. What he can change, and I believe this is extremely important for the health of this country, is that he can heal the wounds created by the Bush administration. The last 8 years have been so damaging to this county. The Bush administration lead the way to creating a very divided country and we have struggled because of that. Hopefully Obama can end that and we can start working together. If he can accomplish that then we will be OK.

decides2dream

Urban Hiker wrote:

Don't wait, work. We the people have to make sure the progressive agenda stays intact. That can start now.

i agree...and i also believe it IS obama's intention to get to work NOW. however, the OP sure makes it sound like that isn't the plan. my only point is....focusing on 'excuses'...already?! spare me. let the man get in action, then judge all you want! hell, if i am unhappy i will say so too!


and in regards to a progressive agenda...it all depends on just what and how progressive you may think, we might not all be on the same page there.


anyhoo...whatever. i agree we need forward motion. however, for today....i plan to enjoy the victory. at least for today. i think we as a country deserve that.

Urban Hiker

decides2dream wrote:

i agree...and i also believe it IS obama's intention to get to work NOW. however, the OP sure makes it sound like that isn't the plan. my only point is....focusing on 'excuses'...already?! spare me. let the man get in action, then judge all you want! hell, if i am unhappy i will say so too!


and in regards to a progressive agenda...it all depends on just what and how progressive you may think, we might not all be on the same page there.


anyhoo...whatever. i agree we need forward motion. however, for today....i plan to enjoy the victory. at least for today. i think we as a country deserve that.

Enjoy your day. I doubt many people have much of a concentration level today for ANY kind of work.

polaris

decides2dream wrote:

and in regards to a progressive agenda...it all depends on just what and how progressive you may think, we might not all be on the same page there.

i think this is obama's biggest obstacle ... an America that really can't definite itself in terms of its social and fisal values ...

he's gonna need to find some issue that he can bond the country which is no easy feat as americans are very divided to begin with ...

cincybearcat

decides2dream wrote:

exactly.
sheesh.
the man isn't even in office yet! and no, change does not happen overnight...but we will see if he puts the wheels in motion. i've waiting 8 long years, i think i can wait and see for a bit.....

I think you missed the point, of course nothing can be done yet...but Harry Reid is already out there saying it'll take as long as it takes and timelines don't matter...that's terrible leadership. It's the position one takes when they don't really know what they are doing and don't want to be held accountable.

This reflects very poorly on Reid and the Dem Congress (the incumbents anyhow). This shouldn't reflect on Obama, I'm not saying that.

jimed14

for fuck's sake ... RELAX.

the election was called 13 hours ago ...

you'll have PLENTY of time to rifle through the misgivings and errors of the new administration as they come (if they come), no fucking point in shitting in everyone's cheerios this morning.

what a bunch of sour fucking grapes.

Gonzo1977

jimed14 wrote:

for fuck's sake ... RELAX.

the election was called 13 hours ago ...

you'll have PLENTY of time to rifle through the misgivings and errors of the new administration as they come (if they come), no fucking point in shitting in everyone's cheerios this morning.

what a bunch of sour fucking grapes.

Where the hell has Pessimisim ever got us?

The sun rose this morning and we have a new Leader

No doubt the country is a mess
No doubt we have a big challenge ahead of us

Ultimately It's up to us...and only us to take Obama to task on his promises.

But for Christ Sakes

Let's have some fucking Hope and belief for once...

Mrs.Vedder78

jimed14 wrote:

for fuck's sake ... RELAX.

the election was called 13 hours ago ...

you'll have PLENTY of time to rifle through the misgivings and errors of the new administration as they come (if they come), no fucking point in shitting in everyone's cheerios this morning.

what a bunch of sour fucking grapes.

I love the way you think!
(but you probably know that already)

cincybearcat

jimed14 wrote:

for fuck's sake ... RELAX.

the election was called 13 hours ago ...

you'll have PLENTY of time to rifle through the misgivings and errors of the new administration as they come (if they come), no fucking point in shitting in everyone's cheerios this morning.

what a bunch of sour fucking grapes.

Huh? I think maybe you need to take your own advice and relax.

What about this is sour grapes? Is it not legitimate to talk about? I thought the Dems were for timelines?

And again, you need to separate the different topics...Obama won is one topic...The dems gaining a bigger majority and Harry Reid basically backpeddling on expectations is another.

cincybearcat

Gonzo1977 wrote:

Where the hell has Pessimisim ever got us?

The sun rose this morning and we have a new Leader

No doubt the country is a mess
No doubt we have a big challenge ahead of us

Ultimately It's up to us...and only us to take Obama to task on his promises.

But for Christ Sakes

Let's have some fucking Hope and belief for once...

Again...this isn't dealing with Obama...it's about the Dem Congress and their leader Harry Reid.

jimed14

cincybearcat wrote:

Huh? I think maybe you need to take your own advice and relax.

What about this is sour grapes? Is it not legitimate to talk about? I thought the Dems were for timelines?

And again, you need to separate the different topics...Obama won is one topic...The dems gaining a bigger majority and Harry Reid basically backpeddling on expectations is another.

why not turn your attention to your CURRENT president, who trying to pass legislation that would exhonerate him from any future warcrimes charges?