Top 100 most influential (America)

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  • Uncle Leo
    Uncle Leo Posts: 1,059
    Scratchin a Letter wrote:
    I don't know, maybe because he's liberal? :D

    As Miller said, he is really not--officially speaking. He's a tough guy to figure out (by design, in part). He sang a lot about race in the 1960s, from what could generally be described as the liberal side. He also wrote a lot of anti-war tunes. Yet I think one of his books said that his favorite politician was Barry Goldwater.

    He may be liberal. He may be moderate. He may even be conservative, but I don't think any of us truly knows.

    That said, he is another person that you could argue for this list.
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  • miller8966
    miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    Uncle Leo wrote:
    As Miller said, he is really not--officially speaking. He's a tough guy to figure out (by design, in part). He sang a lot about race in the 1960s, from what could generally be described as the liberal side. He also wrote a lot of anti-war tunes. Yet I think one of his books said that his favorite politician was Barry Goldwater.

    He may be liberal. He may be moderate. He may even be conservative, but I don't think any of us truly knows.

    That said, he is another person that you could argue for this list.

    I agree. He turned more moderate in 1963 when he was asked to speak at a democratic convention, i believe ( its in the Scorsese film). Also in his book he talks about how he didnt like hippies.

    And lets not forget his 3 christian albums in the late 70's.
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  • ryan198
    ryan198 Posts: 1,015
    miller8966 wrote:
    I agree. He turned more moderate in 1963 when he was asked to speak at a democratic convention, i believe ( its in the Scorsese film). Also in his book he talks about how he didnt like hippies.

    And lets not forget his 3 christian albums in the late 70's.
    He gave up his god stuff in the 80s though...and let Eddie sing The Times the Are A Changing for Ralph Nader in 2000.
  • Uncle Leo
    Uncle Leo Posts: 1,059
    miller8966 wrote:

    And lets not forget his 3 christian albums in the late 70's.

    he was born jewish. He turned Christain at that time. And now...I don't know whether he says he's Jewish, Christian or other.
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  • VictoryGin
    VictoryGin Posts: 1,207
    ryan198 wrote:
    Muhammad Ali is not on this list??? At least Babe Ruth, the original king of connecting capitalism and sports, was on here. Noam Chomsky, revolutionary linguist, and revolutionary of the 20th and 21st century's. These people changed the way we experience life in the United States, and were ommitted.

    Edit:
    How can you put Betty Friedan on here and not have Ella Baker?

    the betty pick was one indication of safety to me.

    i'd like to see ida tarbell on there.
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  • miller8966
    miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    ryan198 wrote:
    He gave up his god stuff in the 80s though...and let Eddie sing The Times the Are A Changing for Ralph Nader in 2000.

    AGain you cant put him into a category.
    America...the greatest Country in the world.
  • miller8966
    miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    Uncle Leo wrote:
    he was born jewish. He turned Christain at that time. And now...I don't know whether he says he's Jewish, Christian or other.

    Theres alot of bible on the new album..i really have no clue though.
    America...the greatest Country in the world.
  • sonicreducer
    sonicreducer Posts: 713
    jesus christ

    what about him? id say he was a pretty influential man,...
    you're a real hooker. im gonna slap you in public.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,962
    sonicreducer wrote:
    jesus christ

    what about him? id say he was a pretty influential man,...

    Was he American? ;)
    hippiemom = goodness
  • RainDog
    RainDog Posts: 1,824
    sonicreducer wrote:
    jesus christ

    what about him? id say he was a pretty influential man,...
    Despite the best efforts of the religious right in this country, no serious individual would ever consider Jesus an American.
  • Eliot Rosewater
    Eliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    VictoryGin wrote:
    oh my god. what a sausage fest.

    woodrow wilson? that racist prick?
    yeah no kidding. Speaking of racism (and sexism) Joseph Smith and Brigham Young are in da house....
  • Eliot Rosewater
    Eliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    Uncle Leo wrote:
    Edit: I am suprised not to see Muhommad Ali.
    Well, it's an american list and clearly americans hate muslims....
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    #67 - PT Barnum

    :)
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Who's missing?

    Here's a few off the cuff...

    Sitting Bull
    Crazy Horse
    Leonard Peltier
    Jack London
    F Scott Fitzgerald
    Miles Davis
    Charlie Parker
    Eugene V Debs
    Rosa Parks
    Malcom X
    James Baldwin
    Ralph Ellison
    Jack Kerouac
    Allen Ginsberg
    William S Burroughs
    Hunter S Thompson
    Henry Miller
    Marlon Brando
    Shelby Foote
    The Ramones
    Jimi Hendrix
    Blind Lemon Jefferson
    Robert Johnson
    Muhammed Ali
    Jack Johnson
    Sugar Ray Robinson
    Jack Dempsey
    Timothy Leary
    Ken Kesey
    Noam Chomsky
    Martha Gellhorn
    Saul Bellow
    Woody Allen
    Bob Dylan
    Lenny Bruce
    Little Richard
    Carl Sagan
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Bob Dylan


    fo sho
  • RainDog
    RainDog Posts: 1,824
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Here's a few off the cuff...

    Henry David Thoreau
    Sitting Bull
    Crazy Horse
    Leonard Peltier
    Jack London
    F Scott Fitzgerald
    Miles Davis
    Charlie Parker
    Malcom X
    James Baldwin
    Ralph Ellison
    Jack Kerouac
    Allen Ginsberg
    William S Burroughs
    Hunter S Thompson
    Henry Miller
    Marlon Brando
    Shelby Foote
    The Ramones
    Jimi Hendrix
    Blind Lemon Jefferson
    Robert Johnson
    Muhammed Ali
    Jack Johnson
    Sugar Ray Robinson
    Jack Dempsey
    Timothy Leary
    Ken Kesey
    Noam Chomsky
    Saul Bellow
    Woody Allen
    Bob Dylan
    Lenny Bruce
    Little Richard
    Carl Sagan
    Excellent list. But I wonder - You include Blind Lemon Jefferson and not Huddie Ledbetter - aka Lead Belly?
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    RainDog wrote:
    Excellent list. But I wonder - You include Blind Lemon Jefferson and not Huddie Ledbetter - aka Lead Belly?

    Good point. I just thought I'd go waaay back.
  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    miller8966 wrote:
    How the fuck is bob dylan not on that list.
    Oh my god :eek:

    Miller and I read that list, and had the EXACT SAME FIRST THOUGHT.

    *faints*
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • 1970RR
    1970RR Posts: 281
    The inventors of the transistor - John Bardeen, Walter Brattain, and William Shockley.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    I see they stole Albert Einstein who was born in Germany. Although - unless i've overlooked him - I'm glad to see that they've omitted the serial rapist and child killer George Armstrong Custer from the list.

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