Top 100 most influential (America)

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edited November 2006 in A Moving Train
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    That's a pretty conservative, unimaginative list.
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,447
    Byrnzie wrote:
    That's a pretty conservative, unimaginative list.


    Who's missing?

    Sometimes list are unimaginative because it's easy to see the truth. But seriously, who is missing...I've been trying to think of some omissions, you can't please everyone.
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  • That list is missing a Clinton. That's why it's conservative and unimaginative.


    I don't see Madonna either. :(

    Hell, where's Sean Penn??
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  • VictoryGinVictoryGin Posts: 1,207
    oh my god. what a sausage fest.

    woodrow wilson? that racist prick?
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,447
    VictoryGin wrote:
    oh my god. what a sausage fest.

    woodrow wilson? that racist prick?

    That is true...I'm still waiting to see who people would add...perhaps a great female mathematician? Barbie. ;)

    Gotta be American though...
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  • Uncle LeoUncle Leo Posts: 1,059
    That list is missing a Clinton. That's why it's conservative and unimaginative.


    I don't see Madonna either. :(

    Hell, where's Sean Penn??

    Madonna probably should be on there. There should probably be a lot more people from the world of pop culture.

    Edit: I am suprised not to see Muhommad Ali.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,447
    What about Al Gore...if he invented the internet he shoudl be WAY up there. ;)

    Pop Culture....hmmmm....lasting effect or simply fad of the day? Maybe some.
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  • Uncle LeoUncle Leo Posts: 1,059
    What about Al Gore...if he invented the internet he shoudl be WAY up there. ;)

    Pop Culture....hmmmm....lasting effect or simply fad of the day? Maybe some.

    That is why marilyn monroe is on there. I think Madonna will forever have a lasting effect.

    Al Gore never claimed to invent the internet.
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  • VictoryGinVictoryGin Posts: 1,207
    That is true...I'm still waiting to see who people would add...perhaps a great female mathematician? Barbie. ;)

    Gotta be American though...

    well it seems like they opened up a traditional history textbook and pulled the list from there. i'm seriously surprised over wilson, not just because he was openly racist (which had an impact on our society--increase in violence), but the interventionist aspect being painted so positively. wow.

    they really played it safe with the ladies, with margret sanger being a possible exception. i'd throw alice paul on the list. she's my favorite suffragist. and what about that socialist hellen keller? ;)
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  • Uncle LeoUncle Leo Posts: 1,059
    Who's missing?

    Sometimes list are unimaginative because it's easy to see the truth. But seriously, who is missing...I've been trying to think of some omissions, you can't please everyone.

    I think Rush Limbaugh should be there. But yeah, whoever I bump for Madonna, Rush and Ali, would be people that some say should not be bumped. It's a 100 person list with maybe 250 that deserve consideration.
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  • Uncle LeoUncle Leo Posts: 1,059
    VictoryGin wrote:
    well it seems like they opened up a traditional history textbook and pulled the list from there. i'm seriously surprised over wilson, not just because he was openly racist (which had an impact on our society--increase in violence), but the interventionist aspect being painted so positively. wow.

    they really played it safe with the ladies, with margret sanger being a possible exception. i'd throw alice paul on the list. she's my favorite suffragist. and what about that socialist hellen keller? ;)

    Just because the influence is bad, does not make one not influential.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,447
    Uncle Leo wrote:
    Just because the influence is bad, does not make one not influential.


    That's what I was thinking
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  • VictoryGinVictoryGin Posts: 1,207
    Uncle Leo wrote:
    Just because the influence is bad, does not make one not influential.

    ah, interesting point. i feel better now. although, it would be nice to see that in his blurb. and if that's the case, i'm surprised they didn't put andrew "indian killer" jackson up there (unless i missed it).
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,447
    VictoryGin wrote:
    ah, interesting point. i feel better now. although, it would be nice to see that in his blurb. and if that's the case, i'm surprised they didn't put andrew "indian killer" jackson up there (unless i missed it).


    #18
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Byrnzie wrote:
    That's a pretty conservative, unimaginative list.


    where is Michael Moore?
  • VictoryGinVictoryGin Posts: 1,207
    #18

    sweet, thanks. i'm operating in a small window here. and i had a lot of wine last night.
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  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    How the fuck is bob dylan not on that list.
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  • miller8966 wrote:
    How the fuck is bob dylan not on that list.
    I don't know, maybe because he's liberal? :D
  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    I don't know, maybe because he's liberal? :D

    hes not..but you can keep thinking that.
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  • ryan198ryan198 Posts: 1,015
    Muhammad Ali is not on this list??? At least Babe Ruth, the original king of connecting capitalism and sports, was on here. Noam Chomsky, revolutionary linguist, and revolutionary of the 20th and 21st century's. These people changed the way we experience life in the United States, and were ommitted.

    Edit:
    How can you put Betty Friedan on here and not have Ella Baker?
  • Uncle LeoUncle Leo Posts: 1,059
    I don't know, maybe because he's liberal? :D

    As Miller said, he is really not--officially speaking. He's a tough guy to figure out (by design, in part). He sang a lot about race in the 1960s, from what could generally be described as the liberal side. He also wrote a lot of anti-war tunes. Yet I think one of his books said that his favorite politician was Barry Goldwater.

    He may be liberal. He may be moderate. He may even be conservative, but I don't think any of us truly knows.

    That said, he is another person that you could argue for this list.
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  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    Uncle Leo wrote:
    As Miller said, he is really not--officially speaking. He's a tough guy to figure out (by design, in part). He sang a lot about race in the 1960s, from what could generally be described as the liberal side. He also wrote a lot of anti-war tunes. Yet I think one of his books said that his favorite politician was Barry Goldwater.

    He may be liberal. He may be moderate. He may even be conservative, but I don't think any of us truly knows.

    That said, he is another person that you could argue for this list.

    I agree. He turned more moderate in 1963 when he was asked to speak at a democratic convention, i believe ( its in the Scorsese film). Also in his book he talks about how he didnt like hippies.

    And lets not forget his 3 christian albums in the late 70's.
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  • ryan198ryan198 Posts: 1,015
    miller8966 wrote:
    I agree. He turned more moderate in 1963 when he was asked to speak at a democratic convention, i believe ( its in the Scorsese film). Also in his book he talks about how he didnt like hippies.

    And lets not forget his 3 christian albums in the late 70's.
    He gave up his god stuff in the 80s though...and let Eddie sing The Times the Are A Changing for Ralph Nader in 2000.
  • Uncle LeoUncle Leo Posts: 1,059
    miller8966 wrote:

    And lets not forget his 3 christian albums in the late 70's.

    he was born jewish. He turned Christain at that time. And now...I don't know whether he says he's Jewish, Christian or other.
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  • VictoryGinVictoryGin Posts: 1,207
    ryan198 wrote:
    Muhammad Ali is not on this list??? At least Babe Ruth, the original king of connecting capitalism and sports, was on here. Noam Chomsky, revolutionary linguist, and revolutionary of the 20th and 21st century's. These people changed the way we experience life in the United States, and were ommitted.

    Edit:
    How can you put Betty Friedan on here and not have Ella Baker?

    the betty pick was one indication of safety to me.

    i'd like to see ida tarbell on there.
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  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    ryan198 wrote:
    He gave up his god stuff in the 80s though...and let Eddie sing The Times the Are A Changing for Ralph Nader in 2000.

    AGain you cant put him into a category.
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  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    Uncle Leo wrote:
    he was born jewish. He turned Christain at that time. And now...I don't know whether he says he's Jewish, Christian or other.

    Theres alot of bible on the new album..i really have no clue though.
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  • jesus christ

    what about him? id say he was a pretty influential man,...
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,447
    jesus christ

    what about him? id say he was a pretty influential man,...

    Was he American? ;)
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  • RainDogRainDog Posts: 1,824
    jesus christ

    what about him? id say he was a pretty influential man,...
    Despite the best efforts of the religious right in this country, no serious individual would ever consider Jesus an American.
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