My best friends girlfriend is a mormon. Great girl. Very sweet, has always been nice... She takes it very seriously though, and thats a little scary, but whatever works.
i bet she's healthy, positive, and mormon girls serve there guys i hear
Scientology sounds pretty crazy to me.....a man created this religion. He was a science fiction writer, and decided to create a religion, and now many people follow this system of beliefs that he just pulled out of the air.
Scientology sounds pretty crazy to me.....a man created this religion. He was a science fiction writer, and decided to create a religion, and now many people follow this system of beliefs that he just pulled out of the air.
I remember reading somewhere that good ol L. Ron made a bet with Robert Heinlien(another popular sci-fi author) that he could create a religion and system of beliefs that people would follow for years. That if you have all the right ingredients, people will follow anything. So he wrote what came to be Dianetics. Which had its followers, but eventually failed. He went back, tweaked the system, added a little mythology, and blammo! Scientology.
So the whole thing was the product of some (probably drunken) bet.
"Should I tell you my room is walled up? In what way might I leave it? Here is how; Goodwill knows no obstacle. Nothing can stand before a deep desire. All I have to do is imagine a door." -Schultz
c'mon...unless you were alive when "jesus walked" then you honestly don't know if the guy even existed, do you?
well actually yes i do....besides the various gospels (the four plus others like thomas and so on) plus objective sources such as the historian jospheus. its historical FACT that jesus existed. now whether he was was God or a normal man or some crazy lunatic is the question. but to question his existence....
The wind is blowing cold
Have we lost our way tonight?
Have we lost our hope to sorrow?
Feels like were all alone
Running further from what’s right
And there are no more heroes to follow
please do not sum a people up based on a few.. its ignorant and so is your post..do some research and visit salt lake city. than come back and post on mormons
At no point did I sum mormons up. In fact, I even paid lip service to the notion of coincidence. Reread my posts, think it about it a little bit more, and then possibly from now on think twice before you attempt to define the meaning of ignorance.
At no point did I sum mormons up. In fact, I even paid lip service to the notion of coincidence. Reread my posts, think it about it a little bit more, and then possibly from now on think twice before you attempt to define the meaning of ignorance.
yes...in some weird twisted reality... i am the ignorant one
they all sound pretty crazy to me. the only difference is we are much more familiar with some than others. christianity doesn't seem so weird to most b/c it's what we know. but really, it's just as crazy as all of them.
all religions seem equally out there to me, they are all based on supernatural beliefs in some sort of creator or supreme being. whether it's the navajo creation belief, or jesus christ, i don't see much difference.
Well said! I totally agree!
"The answers are fatal..."
"My lips are shakin'....
"And Love,...Wish the world would go again with Love
One can't seem to have enough."
Can someone please, please explain the point of this stupid thread? I mean, really, many of you are saying, "I believe in a person's right to worship how they please, but this religion (insert mormon, catholic, scientology, etc.) is so F-ed up because..."
So much for being tolerant of others, huh, guys? What are some of you trying to accomplish by attacking something so personal as one's spirituality and religion with broad generalizations, stereotyping and negativity? What's even more insulting is that some of you are doing it under a thinly-veiled disguise of it being a serious, thoughtful discussion.
As a Catholic, I was totally disgusted with one poster's reference to my faith and pedophilia. Totally uncalled for! The comment does not even justify a response.
I'm sure Eddie and boys would be really proud to know they have such narrow-minded fans like some of you.
Can someone please, please explain the point of this stupid thread? I mean, really, many of you are saying, "I believe in a person's right to worship how they please, but this religion (insert mormon, catholic, scientology, etc.) is so F-ed up because..."
So much for being tolerant of others, huh, guys? What are some of you trying to accomplish by attacking something so personal as one's spirituality and religion. What's even more insulting is that some of you are doing it under a thinly-veiled disguise of it being a serious, thoughtful discussion.
As a Catholic, I was totally disgusted with one poster's reference to my faith and pedophilia. Totally uncalled for! The comment does not even justify a response.
I'm sure Eddie and boys would be really proud to know they have such narrow-minded fans like some of you.
As a Catholic, I was totally disgusted with one poster's reference to my faith and pedophilia. Totally uncalled for! The comment does not even justify a response.
And yet you responded. Pedophilia was certainly officially condoned (no discipline, just move the buggers around from parish to parish) in the church. You may not like it, and the Vatican may have tried to bury it, but it was real. The rest of the list was accurate enough.
Live all you want. I don't care what you believe. Why do you care what I think about your beliefs? My point was that it is hard to say one religion is crazier than another, since they are all a bit strange.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
And yet you responded. Pedophilia was certainly officially condoned (no discipline, just move the buggers around from parish to parish) in the church. You may not like it, and the Vatican may have tried to bury it, but it was real. The rest of the list was accurate enough.
Live all you want. I don't care what you believe. Why do you care what I think about your beliefs? My point was that it is hard to say one religion is crazier than another, since they are all a bit strange.
you got a point dude they are all a bit odd. but it's true half the priests are kiddie fiddlers and gays as sorded as it sounds & i know that for a fact.
champagne for my real friends & i'm a real pain for my sham friends..
Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
So much for being tolerant of others, huh, guys? What are some of you trying to accomplish by attacking something so personal as one's spirituality and religion. What's even more insulting is that some of you are doing it under a thinly-veiled disguise of it being a serious, thoughtful discussion.
Hey, I was just wondering if there were others who saw some aspects of religious beliefs to be silly. I was thinking "is it just me?" Well, I guess not.
And by the way, I'm not big on PC.
And BTW, I never personally attacked anyone.
Can someone please, please explain the point of this stupid thread? I mean, really, many of you are saying, "I believe in a person's right to worship how they please, but this religion (insert mormon, catholic, scientology, etc.) is so F-ed up because..."
So much for being tolerant of others, huh, guys? What are some of you trying to accomplish by attacking something so personal as one's spirituality and religion. What's even more insulting is that some of you are doing it under a thinly-veiled disguise of it being a serious, thoughtful discussion.
As a Catholic, I was totally disgusted with one poster's reference to my faith and pedophilia. Totally uncalled for! The comment does not even justify a response.
I'm sure Eddie and boys would be really proud to know they have such narrow-minded fans like some of you.
Geez, live and let live, folks.
Well, we have to live with religious people who think this world is just a brief test on the way to the afterworld and many of them treat this world as such...disposable. We should at least be able to discuss our thoughts and problems with it.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
what history? i wasen't aware there were varying kinds of history. go and do some research...its beyond all doubt that jesus existed. as mca said things like he being divine is a whole other story. if you are going to question the existence of jesus than you have to question the existence of julius caesar or various egyptian kings because there is at least as much proof of his existence than theirs.
i agree with the catholic poster who was insulted about their faith being attacked. i am certainly no catholic but "fiddling little boys" was never officially sanctioned by the church. they may have turned a blind eye but that is not the same as it being sanctioned by the vatican.
religious people can be judgemental and holier than thou on occassions but some of the nicest people i know are highly religious....although some of the most annoying people i know are religious as well LOL. in the end there are good and bad on all sides.
The wind is blowing cold
Have we lost our way tonight?
Have we lost our hope to sorrow?
Feels like were all alone
Running further from what’s right
And there are no more heroes to follow
I was raised a Jehovah's Witness although I have sise abandoned organized religion. I have read the Bible page to page more than once and have done much study in it and religions in general. I found that JW's are the only religion who supports the Bible 100%. Nothing they say deviates from it's message. Interpretation is near to accurate. You can debate it, but the facts are clear in the bible if you choose to dive into it.
Now, I'm not even saying I believe in God, my point is simply this: AT least JW's teach the bible and not some man's view of what it says. The cancer of the religion is this: they preach it hardcore while being judgmental closed-minded despite the Watchtower instructing them otherwise. The people are fucked, but the doctrines they teach are in harmony wit the bible. Problem is, most of them don't follow their own principles while condemning others for it. It is full of hyprocracy people wise, teaching wise, however, they are clear and in harmony with the Bible.
I know, I know. You are going to say they are clear on the Bible as related to my own interpretation of it. But, despite public opinion, the Bible has a sinlge message and can only be interpreted one way if you take it as a whole and actually read it all and cross-reference and all that good shit. Again, not saying God wrote it per se, but it has a single message which can only be interpreted one way IF you follow the patterns it sets out. Pretty interesting really when you locate that pattern and stick with it for the understanding of it's point. Anyway...felt I'd add something in here.
Peace, Love and Pearl Jam and you shall find light.
I was raised a Jehovah's Witness although I have sise abandoned organized religion. I have read the Bible page to page more than once and have done much study in it and religions in general. I found that JW's are the only religion who supports the Bible 100%. Nothing they say deviates from it's message. Interpretation is near to accurate. You can debate it, but the facts are clear in the bible if you choose to dive into it.
Now, I'm not even saying I believe in God, my point is simply this: AT least JW's teach the bible and not some man's view of what it says. The cancer of the religion is this: they preach it hardcore while being judgmental closed-minded despite the Watchtower instructing them otherwise. The people are fucked, but the doctrines they teach are in harmony wit the bible. Problem is, most of them don't follow their own principles while condemning others for it. It is full of hyprocracy people wise, teaching wise, however, they are clear and in harmony with the Bible.
I know, I know. You are going to say they are clear on the Bible as related to my own interpretation of it. But, despite public opinion, the Bible has a sinlge message and can only be interpreted one way if you take it as a whole and actually read it all and cross-reference and all that good shit. Again, not saying God wrote it per se, but it has a single message which can only be interpreted one way IF you follow the patterns it sets out. Pretty interesting really when you locate that pattern and stick with it for the understanding of it's point. Anyway...felt I'd add something in here.
Peace, Love and Pearl Jam and you shall find light.
I totally respect them for what they believe in. One of my best friends is JW. Some of the things they do make sense, even from someone like me who isn't a fan of organized religion, but some of the things this religion teaches and facilitates within the congregation is insane to me.
-First of all my friend isn't technically suppost to hang out with me because I'm not in the religion and am considered "worldly".
-He cannot go out on a date with someone without a chaperon, despite the fact that he is 25.
-Not allowed to get drunk.
-Social gatherings are all JWs.
-He cannot take part in politics and has never voted.
-He cannot take blood even if he was in a situation that requires it (accident, medical issue) but apparently they can take organs as part of a transplant....oooookay.
-They cannot smoke.
-They cannot have sex before marriage.
-Divorce cannot happen but actually happens at a rate much higher then national averages.
-You can only marry another JW.
-If they break any rules, the "presiding overseer" decides whether they deserve to be in the religion and can kick them out.
My friend was kicked out about 2 years ago. He broke many of the rules and they kicked him out. At this point all of his JW friends could no longer speak with him or even agnowlege him in public. It didn't matter that 95% of the people in the congregation broke rules, but they wanted to set an example. So for a year+ he couldn't associate with his JW friends, even though some did, and to get "back in" he had to proove his devotion. He went to church 2 times a week even though he had to sit in the back by himself and nobody could talk to him. They even made him leave early so that there wouldn't be any "contact".
I can go on and on, but I've got to get to work...:D
Needless to say, I happen to think this religion while good at heart and in theory has some of the most fucked up "rules" I've ever heard of.
I totally respect them for what they believe in. One of my best friends is JW. Some of the things they do make sense, even from someone like me who isn't a fan of organized religion, but some of the things this religion teaches and facilitates within the congregation is insane to me.
-First of all my friend isn't technically suppost to hang out with me because I'm not in the religion and am considered "worldly".
-He cannot go out on a date with someone without a chaperon, despite the fact that he is 25.
-Not allowed to get drunk.
-Social gatherings are all JWs.
-He cannot take part in politics and has never voted.
-He cannot take blood even if he was in a situation that requires it (accident, medical issue) but apparently they can take organs as part of a transplant....oooookay.
-They cannot smoke.
-They cannot have sex before marriage.
-Divorce cannot happen but actually happens at a rate much higher then national averages.
-You can only marry another JW.
-If they break any rules, the "presiding overseer" decides whether they deserve to be in the religion and can kick them out.
My friend was kicked out about 2 years ago. He broke many of the rules and they kicked him out. At this point all of his JW friends could no longer speak with him or even agnowlege him in public. It didn't matter that 95% of the people in the congregation broke rules, but they wanted to set an example. So for a year+ he couldn't associate with his JW friends, even though some did, and to get "back in" he had to proove his devotion. He went to church 2 times a week even though he had to sit in the back by himself and nobody could talk to him. They even made him leave early so that there wouldn't be any "contact".
I can go on and on, but I've got to get to work...:D
Needless to say, I happen to think this religion while good at heart and in theory has some of the most fucked up "rules" I've ever heard of.
As strange as it may seem. ALl of those rules you mention are bible principles. Like I said, they follow the bible. And the presiding overseer isn't in charge of the decision making. It is a committe of three. The presiding overseer setup you mention is aout 25 years old. He does not HAVE to sit in the back and he is not required to leave immediately. Although most disfellowshipped people choose to do it that way.
You are right on. Their organizational program and "in-house" policies still need to evolve. I will say this: if the bible is true and the light gets brighter as God's day approaches as truth is slowly poured out on the congregation, if God is coming, Jehovah's Witnesses will prove to be God's people. Even though they are currently deeply flawed, they get sharper every decade and more refined, huh, reminds me of a prophesy. Silver being refined until it can truely reflect. But it could be a branch as well. Look at the Isrealites. God's people have always been fucked in the head until he breaks off a piece. I don't know, I prefer not to think about really. I feel more free as I am.
As strange as it may seem. ALl of those rules you mention are bible principles. Like I said, they follow the bible. And the presiding overseer isn't in charge of the decision making. It is a committe of three. The presiding overseer setup you mention is aout 25 years old. He does not HAVE to sit in the back and he is not required to leave immediately. Although most disfellowshipped people choose to do it that way.
You are right on. Their organizational program and "in-house" policies still need to evolve. I will say this: if the bible is true and the light gets brighter as God's day approaches as truth is slowly poured out on the congregation, if God is coming, Jehovah's Witnesses will prove to be God's people. Even though they are currently deeply flawed, they get sharper every decade and more refined, huh, reminds me of a prophesy. Silver being refined until it can truely reflect. But it could be a branch as well. Look at the Isrealites. God's people have always been fucked in the head until he breaks off a piece. I don't know, I prefer not to think about really. I feel more free as I am.
Yeah, when my friend was disfellowshipped he used to always say how nice it is to be out. He also seemed more relaxed and more enjoyable to be around. He spent a lot of time questioning whether he wanted to go back and ultimately he did decide to go back.
The whole process seems a bit weird to me.
He used to tell me all the people that got booted on a regular basis and how so few would come back. I don't blame them. I wouldn't put up with that nonsense for 2 seconds.
Yeah, when my friend was disfellowshipped he used to always say how nice it is to be out. He also seemed more relaxed and more enjoyable to be around. He spent a lot of time questioning whether he wanted to go back and ultimately he did decide to go back.
The whole process seems a bit weird to me.
He used to tell me all the people that got booted on a regular basis and how so few would come back. I don't blame them. I wouldn't put up with that nonsense for 2 seconds.
i'm glad your friend did come back
Esther's here and she's sick?
hi Esther, now we are all going to be sick, thanks
So much for being tolerant of others, huh, guys? What are some of you trying to accomplish by attacking something so personal as one's spirituality and religion. What's even more insulting is that some of you are doing it under a thinly-veiled disguise of it being a serious, thoughtful discussion.
As a Catholic, I was totally disgusted with one poster's reference to my faith and pedophilia. Totally uncalled for! The comment does not even justify a response.
I'm sure Eddie and boys would be really proud to know they have such narrow-minded fans like some of you.
Geez, live and let live, folks.
Read abook's post. Who cares what "Eddie and the boys" think? I don't really know if Ed said this but I think so: Worship the music not the musician
Some religions are fucked up but if you want to believe in them, I don't care as long as you don't start pushing your beliefs on me, as long as your beliefs don't hurt others, as long as it's respectful...
Some of these religions mentioned here are aweful, I know two kids who absolutely hate their parents for being Jehova's Witnesses, they weren't allowed anything, they weren't even allowed to talk unless with permission and only about serious things like Jehova... They had no tv, no radio, no computer, were never allowed to go to parties, couldn't have friends over...
And not just those to kids, their entire group was like that...
A lot of the things mca47 said.
I know not all Jehova's Witnesses are like that...
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i bet she's healthy, positive, and mormon girls serve there guys i hear
US GUYS NEED THAT
i dont wanna hear anyone bash mormon girls!
I remember reading somewhere that good ol L. Ron made a bet with Robert Heinlien(another popular sci-fi author) that he could create a religion and system of beliefs that people would follow for years. That if you have all the right ingredients, people will follow anything. So he wrote what came to be Dianetics. Which had its followers, but eventually failed. He went back, tweaked the system, added a little mythology, and blammo! Scientology.
So the whole thing was the product of some (probably drunken) bet.
Trading stories with the leaves instead
well actually yes i do....besides the various gospels (the four plus others like thomas and so on) plus objective sources such as the historian jospheus. its historical FACT that jesus existed. now whether he was was God or a normal man or some crazy lunatic is the question. but to question his existence....
Have we lost our way tonight?
Have we lost our hope to sorrow?
Feels like were all alone
Running further from what’s right
And there are no more heroes to follow
So what are we becoming?
Where did we go wrong?
At no point did I sum mormons up. In fact, I even paid lip service to the notion of coincidence. Reread my posts, think it about it a little bit more, and then possibly from now on think twice before you attempt to define the meaning of ignorance.
http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=272825
A whisper and a chill
adv2005
"Why do I bother?"
The 11th Commandment.
"Whatever"
PETITION TO STOP THE BAN OF SMOKING IN BARS IN THE UNITED STATES....Anyone?
It is a historical fact that he did live.
Proving that he's the son of god won't be any legitmate history book though. That you just "got to believe".
yes...in some weird twisted reality... i am the ignorant one
Well said! I totally agree!
"My lips are shakin'....
"And Love,...Wish the world would go again with Love
One can't seem to have enough."
www.myspace.com/jenlovespearljam
What history is it a fact in?
"My lips are shakin'....
"And Love,...Wish the world would go again with Love
One can't seem to have enough."
www.myspace.com/jenlovespearljam
So much for being tolerant of others, huh, guys? What are some of you trying to accomplish by attacking something so personal as one's spirituality and religion with broad generalizations, stereotyping and negativity? What's even more insulting is that some of you are doing it under a thinly-veiled disguise of it being a serious, thoughtful discussion.
As a Catholic, I was totally disgusted with one poster's reference to my faith and pedophilia. Totally uncalled for! The comment does not even justify a response.
I'm sure Eddie and boys would be really proud to know they have such narrow-minded fans like some of you.
Geez, live and let live, folks.
So much for being tolerant of others, huh, guys? What are some of you trying to accomplish by attacking something so personal as one's spirituality and religion. What's even more insulting is that some of you are doing it under a thinly-veiled disguise of it being a serious, thoughtful discussion.
As a Catholic, I was totally disgusted with one poster's reference to my faith and pedophilia. Totally uncalled for! The comment does not even justify a response.
I'm sure Eddie and boys would be really proud to know they have such narrow-minded fans like some of you.
Geez, live and let live, folks.
Live all you want. I don't care what you believe. Why do you care what I think about your beliefs? My point was that it is hard to say one religion is crazier than another, since they are all a bit strange.
you got a point dude they are all a bit odd. but it's true half the priests are kiddie fiddlers and gays as sorded as it sounds & i know that for a fact.
Hey, I was just wondering if there were others who saw some aspects of religious beliefs to be silly. I was thinking "is it just me?" Well, I guess not.
And by the way, I'm not big on PC.
And BTW, I never personally attacked anyone.
Well, we have to live with religious people who think this world is just a brief test on the way to the afterworld and many of them treat this world as such...disposable. We should at least be able to discuss our thoughts and problems with it.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
what history? i wasen't aware there were varying kinds of history. go and do some research...its beyond all doubt that jesus existed. as mca said things like he being divine is a whole other story. if you are going to question the existence of jesus than you have to question the existence of julius caesar or various egyptian kings because there is at least as much proof of his existence than theirs.
i agree with the catholic poster who was insulted about their faith being attacked. i am certainly no catholic but "fiddling little boys" was never officially sanctioned by the church. they may have turned a blind eye but that is not the same as it being sanctioned by the vatican.
religious people can be judgemental and holier than thou on occassions but some of the nicest people i know are highly religious....although some of the most annoying people i know are religious as well LOL. in the end there are good and bad on all sides.
Have we lost our way tonight?
Have we lost our hope to sorrow?
Feels like were all alone
Running further from what’s right
And there are no more heroes to follow
So what are we becoming?
Where did we go wrong?
A whisper and a chill
adv2005
"Why do I bother?"
The 11th Commandment.
"Whatever"
PETITION TO STOP THE BAN OF SMOKING IN BARS IN THE UNITED STATES....Anyone?
A whisper and a chill
adv2005
"Why do I bother?"
The 11th Commandment.
"Whatever"
PETITION TO STOP THE BAN OF SMOKING IN BARS IN THE UNITED STATES....Anyone?
Now, I'm not even saying I believe in God, my point is simply this: AT least JW's teach the bible and not some man's view of what it says. The cancer of the religion is this: they preach it hardcore while being judgmental closed-minded despite the Watchtower instructing them otherwise. The people are fucked, but the doctrines they teach are in harmony wit the bible. Problem is, most of them don't follow their own principles while condemning others for it. It is full of hyprocracy people wise, teaching wise, however, they are clear and in harmony with the Bible.
I know, I know. You are going to say they are clear on the Bible as related to my own interpretation of it. But, despite public opinion, the Bible has a sinlge message and can only be interpreted one way if you take it as a whole and actually read it all and cross-reference and all that good shit. Again, not saying God wrote it per se, but it has a single message which can only be interpreted one way IF you follow the patterns it sets out. Pretty interesting really when you locate that pattern and stick with it for the understanding of it's point. Anyway...felt I'd add something in here.
Peace, Love and Pearl Jam and you shall find light.
I totally respect them for what they believe in. One of my best friends is JW. Some of the things they do make sense, even from someone like me who isn't a fan of organized religion, but some of the things this religion teaches and facilitates within the congregation is insane to me.
-First of all my friend isn't technically suppost to hang out with me because I'm not in the religion and am considered "worldly".
-He cannot go out on a date with someone without a chaperon, despite the fact that he is 25.
-Not allowed to get drunk.
-Social gatherings are all JWs.
-He cannot take part in politics and has never voted.
-He cannot take blood even if he was in a situation that requires it (accident, medical issue) but apparently they can take organs as part of a transplant....oooookay.
-They cannot smoke.
-They cannot have sex before marriage.
-Divorce cannot happen but actually happens at a rate much higher then national averages.
-You can only marry another JW.
-If they break any rules, the "presiding overseer" decides whether they deserve to be in the religion and can kick them out.
My friend was kicked out about 2 years ago. He broke many of the rules and they kicked him out. At this point all of his JW friends could no longer speak with him or even agnowlege him in public. It didn't matter that 95% of the people in the congregation broke rules, but they wanted to set an example. So for a year+ he couldn't associate with his JW friends, even though some did, and to get "back in" he had to proove his devotion. He went to church 2 times a week even though he had to sit in the back by himself and nobody could talk to him. They even made him leave early so that there wouldn't be any "contact".
I can go on and on, but I've got to get to work...:D
Needless to say, I happen to think this religion while good at heart and in theory has some of the most fucked up "rules" I've ever heard of.
As strange as it may seem. ALl of those rules you mention are bible principles. Like I said, they follow the bible. And the presiding overseer isn't in charge of the decision making. It is a committe of three. The presiding overseer setup you mention is aout 25 years old. He does not HAVE to sit in the back and he is not required to leave immediately. Although most disfellowshipped people choose to do it that way.
You are right on. Their organizational program and "in-house" policies still need to evolve. I will say this: if the bible is true and the light gets brighter as God's day approaches as truth is slowly poured out on the congregation, if God is coming, Jehovah's Witnesses will prove to be God's people. Even though they are currently deeply flawed, they get sharper every decade and more refined, huh, reminds me of a prophesy. Silver being refined until it can truely reflect. But it could be a branch as well. Look at the Isrealites. God's people have always been fucked in the head until he breaks off a piece. I don't know, I prefer not to think about really. I feel more free as I am.
Yeah, when my friend was disfellowshipped he used to always say how nice it is to be out. He also seemed more relaxed and more enjoyable to be around. He spent a lot of time questioning whether he wanted to go back and ultimately he did decide to go back.
The whole process seems a bit weird to me.
He used to tell me all the people that got booted on a regular basis and how so few would come back. I don't blame them. I wouldn't put up with that nonsense for 2 seconds.
i'm glad your friend did come back
Esther's here and she's sick?
hi Esther, now we are all going to be sick, thanks
Read abook's post. Who cares what "Eddie and the boys" think? I don't really know if Ed said this but I think so: Worship the music not the musician
Some religions are fucked up but if you want to believe in them, I don't care as long as you don't start pushing your beliefs on me, as long as your beliefs don't hurt others, as long as it's respectful...
Some of these religions mentioned here are aweful, I know two kids who absolutely hate their parents for being Jehova's Witnesses, they weren't allowed anything, they weren't even allowed to talk unless with permission and only about serious things like Jehova... They had no tv, no radio, no computer, were never allowed to go to parties, couldn't have friends over...
And not just those to kids, their entire group was like that...
A lot of the things mca47 said.
I know not all Jehova's Witnesses are like that...
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