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Obama/Joe Biden ticket

mca47mca47 Posts: 13,300
edited July 2008 in A Moving Train
I think it would be the toughest ticket for the republicans to beat.
The numbers are in his favor now, but I think Joe Biden would be a great choice. I've always been a fan of his.
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  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    What all do you like about Biden, personally?
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • BootsyGrahamBootsyGraham Posts: 51
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    What all do you like about Biden, personally?

    He knows what the fuck he's talking about. He's very smart, and he's made for the most part wise political decisions; not necessarily decisions on paper but through other means. He's very intelligent and he actually, unlike the majority of the candidates from either party, has some experience.

    Honestly, I would love to see that ticket. If not, he would make an excellent Secretary of State.
    Tubby Boots
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  • Dogman3Dogman3 Posts: 330
    Biden for VP.
  • DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    I wonder what this meeting was about?

    :cool:
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    BootsyGraham wrote:
    He knows what the fuck he's talking about. He's very smart, and he's made for the most part wise political decisions; not necessarily decisions on paper but through other means. He's very intelligent and he actually, unlike the majority of the candidates from either party, has some experience.

    Honestly, I would love to see that ticket. If not, he would make an excellent Secretary of State.

    Could you be more specific? What has he said or done that has caused you to form this opinion of him? I could say anyone is intelligent but that doesn't mean that we are going to agree that the actions of this said person are intelligent. Like saying we should drill in ANWR (not Biden..I'm just using an example) you might think that is an intelligent stance and I may not.

    I feel that the political scene these days is filled with opinions that can't seem to be backed with actual facts all too often, as well.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Smellyman2Smellyman2 Posts: 689
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    What all do you like about Biden, personally?

    Never met him
  • El_KabongEl_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    BootsyGraham wrote:
    he's made for the most part wise political decisions; not necessarily decisions on paper but through other means.


    like what?
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    Smellyman wrote:
    Never met him


    The comma makes all the difference in that sentence however, I'm willing to rephase.

    What has Joe Biden done that you think are good, intelligent moves? What do you specifically like about the guy?
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    El_Kabong wrote:
    like what?

    Joe Biden is good, man! He's like intelligent and stuff. ;)
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • flywallyflyflywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    The ranking Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Biden said he thinks Nader has ruined what would have been a strong legacy. "He has already done that in truth," he said.

    "I used to work really closely with Ralph Nader since I got to the Senate. I've been there since 1972," Biden continued, shrugging. "It is just kind of disappointing. I don't understand the rational. I know he cares about a lot of things but it is almost as if he faded from the scene and he wants to go out like comet."



    I like this guy more and more.
  • barakabaraka Posts: 1,268
    I just happen to be surfing around and found this interesting interview with Joe Biden, on Iran and on the GI bill:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/24791035#24793616
    The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance,
    but the illusion of knowledge.
    ~Daniel Boorstin

    Only a life lived for others is worth living.
    ~Albert Einstein
  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    flywallyfly wrote:
    I like this guy more and more.
    You realize we're 13 posts into this thread, and no one has said a thing about Biden's "accomplishments," right?
  • flywallyflyflywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    _outlaw wrote:
    You realize we're 13 posts into this thread, and no one has said a thing about Biden's "accomplishments," right?

    There is this thing called "Google" if you are tired of waiting for someone to do your homework for you. It's really fun to find information on your own !
  • El_KabongEl_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    flywallyfly wrote:
    There is this thing called "Google" if you are tired of waiting for someone to do your homework for you. It's really fun to find information on your own !


    well, if someone's gonna make a statement maybe they should back it up?
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • barakabaraka Posts: 1,268
    _outlaw wrote:
    You realize we're 13 posts into this thread, and no one has said a thing about Biden's "accomplishments," right?

    Here is a site with his voting record: http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=53279

    I am certainly no expert on Biden and I just skimmed the site I posted above, but he does not appear to be a far left leaning liberal at all, more moderate to conservative to me, he seems to vote 'liberal' on some issues and 'conservative' on others. Again, I am no expert on the man.
    The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance,
    but the illusion of knowledge.
    ~Daniel Boorstin

    Only a life lived for others is worth living.
    ~Albert Einstein
  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    flywallyfly wrote:
    There is this thing called "Google" if you are tired of waiting for someone to do your homework for you. It's really fun to find information on your own !


    When I make claims about Nader being a qualified guy, I like to back it up with substance and not just 'cuz I said so'.

    I'm not the one claiming Biden is so qualified and intelligent....I'd like to know from the people who do what caused them to come to this conclusion. I don't think that's too much to ask.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    flywallyfly wrote:
    The ranking Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Biden said he thinks Nader has ruined what would have been a strong legacy. "He has already done that in truth," he said.

    "I used to work really closely with Ralph Nader since I got to the Senate. I've been there since 1972," Biden continued, shrugging. "It is just kind of disappointing. I don't understand the rational. I know he cares about a lot of things but it is almost as if he faded from the scene and he wants to go out like comet."



    I like this guy more and more.


    If Biden doesn't understand why Nader is running then he is simply choosing to close his ears when he gets an answer.


    http://youtube.com/watch?v=BS1c5Ei0eIg
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • flywallyflyflywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    When I make claims about Nader being a qualified guy, I like to back it up with substance and not just 'cuz I said so'.

    I'm not the one claiming Biden is so qualified and intelligent....I'd like to know from the people who do what caused them to come to this conclusion. I don't think that's too much to ask.

    Direct this to the person you asked, not me. My post was to Outlaw who was referring to me in his sarcastic remark, not towards you.
  • flywallyflyflywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    El_Kabong wrote:
    well, if someone's gonna make a statement maybe they should back it up?

    Maybe they should. Why dont you ask them to back their statement up instead of asking me. Thanks.
  • El_KabongEl_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    flywallyfly wrote:
    Maybe they should. Why dont you ask them to back their statement up instead of asking me. Thanks.


    see post #2, 6, 8 and 9 of this thread

    then you posted and told someone who also inquired to look it up for themself...which i replied to
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • flywallyflyflywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    El_Kabong wrote:
    see post #2, 6, 8 and 9 of this thread

    then you posted and told someone who also inquired to look it up for themself...which i replied to

    See post #13. He was asking me a sarcastic question to ME. I replied with a sarcastic answer to HIM. Fairly simple concept. My statement was obvious why I liked Biden but maybe you should read it again to be clear. For all of the others, that is between you and them. Ask them for an answer please.
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    What all do you like about Biden, personally?

    What do you like about Matt Gonzalez? (serious question... no links, your own words please :))
  • El_KabongEl_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    flywallyfly wrote:
    See post #13. He was asking me a sarcastic question to ME. I replied with a sarcastic answer to HIM. Fairly simple concept. My statement was obvious why I liked Biden but maybe you should read it again to be clear. For all of the others, that is between you and them. Ask them for an answer please.


    but i didn't ask you to back biden up, please reread my single sentence

    'well, if someone's gonna make a statement maybe they should back it up?'

    which was referring to bootsygraham saying he made wise and intelligent decisions
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • El_KabongEl_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    my2hands wrote:
    What do you like about Matt Gonzalez? (serious question... no links, your own words please :))


    i like his minimum wage w/ a sliding scale for inflation he implemented, i like how he fought for the consumer against the cell phone companies, he's had a career of fighting political corruption and environmental crimes, he enacted campaign and election reforms, instant run-off voting, his stance and answer for health care, iraq, foreign policy, energy policy (not the 'maybe 25% by 2025 obama pushes)....
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Joe Biden is from Delaware


    which automatically makes him fucking awesome! :D
  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    my2hands wrote:
    What do you like about Matt Gonzalez? (serious question... no links, your own words please :))


    He's fucking hot! duh :D



    Seriously, I could go on and on about this guy but Kabong highlighted his strengths pretty well. I will add that on top of all of his wonderfully progressive record...he is a passionate and extremely articulate speaker, he really helps deliver the emotion behind the cause which makes him an amazing asset for Nader who can be very detail-oriented and methodical when speaking...so together they offer the best of both worlds. :)
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • peacegirlpeacegirl Posts: 841
    BootsyGraham wrote:
    He knows what the fuck he's talking about. He's very smart, and he's made for the most part wise political decisions; not necessarily decisions on paper but through other means. He's very intelligent and he actually, unlike the majority of the candidates from either party, has some experience.

    Honestly, I would love to see that ticket. If not, he would make an excellent Secretary of State.

    I don't think he'll be on the ticket as VP (he has reputation for running his mouth which could be seen as a liability) but I totally agree that he should be Secretary of State.
  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    peacegirl wrote:
    I don't think he'll be on the ticket as VP (he has reputation for running his mouth which could be seen as a liability) but I totally agree that he should be Secretary of State.


    Hey! You're from Delaware! Maybe you should be the running mate?!

    :D:)
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    peacegirl wrote:
    I don't think he'll be on the ticket as VP (he has reputation for running his mouth which could be seen as a liability) but I totally agree that he should be Secretary of State.

    see, peacegirl knows Delaware rocks!!! :D


    welcome to the board fellow first stater
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Hey! You're from Delaware! Maybe you should be the running mate?!

    :D:)


    what am i, chopped liver :p
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