Gas Tax Holiday

mca47
mca47 Posts: 13,352
edited May 2008 in A Moving Train
Dumb.
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  • lazymoon13
    lazymoon13 Posts: 838
    how many thread do we need on this subject? why do you think its dumb?
  • mca47
    mca47 Posts: 13,352
    I may be easier if you told me any benefit...other than the $28 it may save the average American over the entire summer.
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    I posted this in another thread, and I think it is pretty spot on. A gas tax holiday would be nice at the time, however you know it is short lived and will go back up shortly. It is like having a one night stand with a supermodel with the clap---at the moment it it quite enjoyable, but in the long run you are going to pay for it.
  • 3inputchick
    3inputchick Posts: 845
    It's a tease....
    start walking fattys!
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  • mca47
    mca47 Posts: 13,352
    I posted this in another thread, and I think it is pretty spot on. A gas tax holiday would be nice at the time, however you know it is short lived and will go back up shortly. It is like having a one night stand with a supermodel with the clap---at the moment it it quite enjoyable, but in the long run you are going to pay for it.

    Hahaha, I like that analogy!
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    I'm for anything that reduces taxes...even if it's just for a little while.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • godpt3
    godpt3 Posts: 1,020
    brilliant idea!!! Congress cuts the gas tax temporarily (what is it, like 19 cents or something)... oil companies cut their prices by 14 cents (!!!) and keep the difference.
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  • lazymoon13
    lazymoon13 Posts: 838
    know1 wrote:
    I'm for anything that reduces taxes...even if it's just for a little while.

    seems rather logical to me.
  • mca47
    mca47 Posts: 13,352
    know1 wrote:
    I'm for anything that reduces taxes...even if it's just for a little while.

    But the money is coming out of the funding that goes to fixing highways, interstates, bridges, etc. When the holiday is over it's going to cost us all more money in the long run.
    So I guess I'm for anything that reduces taxes...if it makes sense.
    Pretty much every economist has come out and said this is a stupid idea.
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Any time the government is stealing less of my money I am all for it.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    mca47 wrote:
    Pretty much every economist has come out and said this is a stupid idea.

    In terms of having some tangible, far-reaching effect on economic turnaround, or even relief, it really isn't going to produce results. But anyone arguing against letting people keep more of their own money during hard times, and enabling government looting show their true colors.
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  • Uncle Leo
    Uncle Leo Posts: 1,059
    jeffbr wrote:
    In terms of having some tangible, far-reaching effect on economic turnaround, or even relief, it really isn't going to produce results. But anyone arguing against letting people keep more of their own money during hard times, and enabling government looting show their true colors.

    Hopefully you never bellyache about the condition of the roads.
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  • SVRDhand13
    SVRDhand13 Posts: 27,021
    mca47 wrote:
    But the money is coming out of the funding that goes to fixing highways, interstates, bridges, etc. When the holiday is over it's going to cost us all more money in the long run.
    So I guess I'm for anything that reduces taxes...if it makes sense.
    Pretty much every economist has come out and said this is a stupid idea.

    yes and thats exactly why this idea is bullshit. mccain and clinton know this is the case yet they know most people are too stupid to do their research after hearing about a tax cut. i mean think about it- how many people are going to object to something that saves them money.

    this is why obama is now my definite choice for president- he realizes that this will hurt us and is speaking out against it. clinton would rather trick us into thinking she's helping us.
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  • Uncle Leo
    Uncle Leo Posts: 1,059
    Uncle Leo wrote:
    Hopefully you never bellyache about the condition of the roads.

    I take that back. I'd love to see a market-driven solution to crumbling roads. All the third ring suburban commuters would find out just how much their roads cost.
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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Uncle Leo wrote:
    Hopefully you never bellyache about the condition of the roads.

    Of course I do. There is no way I'm getting comensurate value. Here in this state we have one of the highest gas taxes in the country and there are plenty of problems with the roads. Higher taxes don't automatically mean better services.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • SundaySilence
    SundaySilence Posts: 537
    Clinton and McCain will help the oil companies, hurt the populace, and gain political stature. They know consumers are willing to pay the cost of gas with the tax included. Without the tax big oil will raise prices to match that cost. The general public will lose the benefit of that income. Big oil will put it in their pocket.
  • as previously stated, the proposed gas tax holiday would come at the expense of the federal fund that pays for national highway infrastructure. highways, bridges, etc. remember the bridge collapse in minnesota last summer? remember the subsequent stories about the number of bridges nationwide that are in need of repair? building new roads notwithstanding, existing highways need repairs on a regular, if not annual basis, especially those in states that experienced a harsh winter.

    safety aside, the money lost from the fund could result in the loss of over 300,000 jobs nationwide.

    a gas tax suspension that is instituted without a windfall profits tax on the oil companies would be a bad idea, and i'm glad that one candidate is willing to talk about that with the american people.
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  • mca47
    mca47 Posts: 13,352
    as previously stated, the proposed gas tax holiday would come at the expense of the federal fund that pays for national highway infrastructure. highways, bridges, etc. remember the bridge collapse in minnesota last summer? remember the subsequent stories about the number of bridges nationwide that are in need of repair? building new roads notwithstanding, existing highways need repairs on a regular, if not annual basis, especially those in states that experienced a harsh winter.

    safety aside, the money lost from the fund could result in the loss of over 300,000 jobs nationwide.

    a gas tax suspension that is instituted without a windfall profits tax on the oil companies would be a bad idea, and i'm glad that one candidate is willing to talk about that with the american people.

    Well said.
    Let's just hope that the average American will be able to understand/comprehend this very idea and not get caught up in what is spoon-fed to them by the Clinton and McCain camps.
  • lazymoon13
    lazymoon13 Posts: 838
    as previously stated, the proposed gas tax holiday would come at the expense of the federal fund that pays for national highway infrastructure. highways, bridges, etc. remember the bridge collapse in minnesota last summer? remember the subsequent stories about the number of bridges nationwide that are in need of repair? building new roads notwithstanding, existing highways need repairs on a regular, if not annual basis, especially those in states that experienced a harsh winter.

    safety aside, the money lost from the fund could result in the loss of over 300,000 jobs nationwide.

    a gas tax suspension that is instituted without a windfall profits tax on the oil companies would be a bad idea, and i'm glad that one candidate is willing to talk about that with the american people.

    I like your answer alot better then the thread maker ;) I also agree. fuck this tax break!
  • lazymoon13
    lazymoon13 Posts: 838
    mca47 wrote:
    Well said.
    Let's just hope that the average American will be able to understand/comprehend this very idea and not get caught up in what is spoon-fed to them by the Clinton and McCain camps.

    classic message board speak: "spoon fed"