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  • Gonzo1977Gonzo1977 Posts: 1,696
    MrBrian wrote:
    I feel sorry for the American people who believe that Obama has anything to do with changeAre the American people more accepting now? No, they are just ready to be fooled by a new face. Perhaps that's change.

    We are talking about Change.

    Obama vs. George W Bush.

    I understand your cynicism...But to say that Obama represents no alternative to the disasterous 8 years that we've had to endure under the Bush adminstration is just idiotic.

    Obama may not cure cancer (Maybe?) but his temperment, attitude, and direction is vastly different that George W Bush.
  • SpeakersSpeakers Posts: 252
    MrBrian wrote:
    With an Obama leadership it will be easier for America to rape Africa and the rest of the world of it's natural resources, nothing about Obama and his policies indicate a change from the past presidents, he's just a friendly face for the people who brought the world friendly fire.

    America will present itself to the world as fair,just and equal...simply because they were able to elect a black man to a white house, forgetting that he will still be owned by corporations and be guided by the only colours that matter to America, the green paper and the black liquid, I feel sorry for the American people who believe that Obama has anything to do with change

    Are the American people more accepting now? No, they are just ready to be fooled by a new face. Perhaps that's change.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incrementalism

    You're welcome.
  • Gonzo1977Gonzo1977 Posts: 1,696
    Double Post
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    That made me cry.


    Are you serious?
  • Speakers wrote:

    Easy there fella...
    The anti-change crowd is trying to convince us that we'll lose our patience.
    They think we have seen too many Disney movies.
    the Minions
  • FiveB247xFiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    A picture or in-adamant object is only what you want it to be.
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    FiveB247x wrote:
    A picture or in-adamant object is only what you want it to be.

    Exactly. I see a guy whose bean burrito is talking back to him.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • SpeakersSpeakers Posts: 252
    Easy there fella...
    The anti-change crowd is trying to convince us that we'll lose our patience.
    They think we have seen too many Disney movies.

    Yeah, I know. Why take a step toward the finish line when you can be magically transported there by inciting anger in those who oppose your beliefs to justify killing them in the name of a revolution? Am I right here?? :)
  • in_hiding79in_hiding79 Posts: 4,315
    jeffbr wrote:
    Huh. I don't get it. An Obama supporter holding up a sign that says Hope. It seems like that's something we've seen constantly for the past year and a half.


    I don't get it either....hmmmmm

    It's a picture of a guy holding a sign that says "hope", so what, I have seen that before...:confused:

    Btw, I DON'T support either one of the knuckleheads :o
    And so the lion fell in love with the lamb...,"
    "What a stupid lamb."
    "What a sick, masochistic lion."
  • in_hiding79in_hiding79 Posts: 4,315
    unsung wrote:
    Are you serious?


    :p
    And so the lion fell in love with the lamb...,"
    "What a stupid lamb."
    "What a sick, masochistic lion."
  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    Speakers wrote:
    Like it or not, countries look to America for leadership. If we send this message of acceptance, it will do more to change people's view of our country and their own cultural assumptions than anything since the civil rights movement in my opinion.

    Countries look to the US for leadership? Which countries? I've been in quite a few countries the last couple of years and the people I've met aren't exactly looking up to the US, in fact, it's quite the opposite.

    It's true that Obama, if he gets elected, will cause many people to look at the US differently. But for how long? I'm not sure Obama will bring the change people expect.
    THANK YOU, LOSTDAWG!


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  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    Gonzo1977 wrote:
    Obama may not cure cancer (Maybe?) but his temperment, attitude, and direction is vastly different that George W Bush.

    True, but temperament and attitude don't matter if Obama is owned by the corporate world.

    When I look at his policies I simply don't see the big change people are talking about. In fact, I think his policies show that he won't change the corrupt power structure in Washington.
    THANK YOU, LOSTDAWG!


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  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    MrBrian wrote:
    With an Obama leadership it will be easier for America to rape Africa and the rest of the world of it's natural resources, nothing about Obama and his policies indicate a change from the past presidents, he's just a friendly face for the people who brought the world friendly fire.

    America will present itself to the world as fair,just and equal...simply because they were able to elect a black man to a white house, forgetting that he will still be owned by corporations and be guided by the only colours that matter to America, the green paper and the black liquid, I feel sorry for the American people who believe that Obama has anything to do with change

    Are the American people more accepting now? No, they are just ready to be fooled by a new face. Perhaps that's change.
    Obama claims he will invest $15 billion in alternative energy. doesn't sound like guy owned by the oil companies.
  • SpeakersSpeakers Posts: 252
    Collin wrote:
    Countries look to the US for leadership? Which countries? I've been in quite a few countries the last couple of years and the people I've met aren't exactly looking up to the US, in fact, it's quite the opposite.

    It's true that Obama, if he gets elected, will cause many people to look at the US differently. But for how long? I'm not sure Obama will bring the change people expect.

    America has significant power in the world both culturally and economically. Sure the vast majority of worldwide citizens have strongly disagreed with our foreign policy during the bush years and previously as well. But, when you look at our social and economic patterns, excluding Europe to a certain degree (although not completely), many many countries follow our cultural patterns. Just because people think American's are morons doesn't mean they don't subconciously or intentionally follow our lead.
  • Jeremy1012Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    FiveB247x wrote:
    A picture or in-adamant object is only what you want it to be.
    I think you mean "inanimate object" :)
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    Speakers wrote:
    America has significant power in the world both culturally and economically. Sure the vast majority of worldwide citizens have strongly disagreed with our foreign policy during the bush years and previously as well. But, when you look at our social and economic patterns, excluding Europe to a certain degree (although not completely), many many countries follow our cultural patterns. Just because people think American's are morons doesn't mean they don't subconciously or intentionally follow our lead.

    I'm not exactly sure what you mean by 'cultural, social and economic patterns', could you elucidate, perhaps give some concrete examples of countries following your lead?

    Since the disintegration of the USSR, there has been only one superpower, namely the US. I think this is slowly beginning to change, though. Anyway, as a superpower the US has had considerable influence throughout the world, I cannot deny that nor will I try to. I do not think, however, people look to the US for leadership as you initially claimed. There's a substantial difference between looking to a nation for leadership and subconciously following trends.

    But like I said, US influence is apparent almost worldwide. My question is whether this is because people look to the US for leadership or whether this is a consequence of the ubiquity of American culture, or perhaps even ideology, that stems for the US being the only superpower.

    edit: I have to ask what you mean by 'cultural' specifically. Because if you mean the arts, I don't think any nation looks to the US for leadership in the arts. If you mean culture as a way of life, the beliefs and habits of a nation or people... The question stays the same; are other cultures infested by the overwhelming presence of americana through media and political power, or rather because they admire the US in some way?
    THANK YOU, LOSTDAWG!


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