All I hear is blah blah blah
PJ_Lukin
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state of the union..... what bullshit.
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Well, no fucking shit, asshole. If it is so fucking important... then, what was all that bullshit about Gay Marriages and Steroids and shit? If Iraq is so important... why wasn't it important enough to focus on and cut loose the resources needed to do the 'Job'? If you had been paying attention... maybe we wouldn't be in such a fucked up situation.
Hail, Hail!!!
I'm sure folks will knee-jerk to a reason to oppose them, however.
Does Queen Bee Pelosi have the longest-lasting life saver stuck in the corner of her mouth, or what?
But yes, I agree...I think it's unfortunate that so many people don't even care to LISTEN. But he's the divider. Think about what a fucked up situation this is...he talks about wanting to WIN in Iraq, and you can just sense the uncomfortableness fall upon the room. If it wasn't so depressing, it'd be funny.
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although i must say that i fucking hate the way politicians act when they are in view of a camera. everything is so meticulously calculated to go with their political party. like the clapping. if you agree with something, clap for it. do what you feel is right, not what you think will get you re-elected. seeing everyone look around waiting to clap made me sick.
on a side note, was it just me or did it appear that cheney and mccain were about to pass out 99% of the time?
Of course you thought it was a very good speech, it sounded like one of your posts.
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I've yet to listen to it,
that because like most of the other liberals around here, thats all you CAN hear with your head firmly planted up your ass...
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Instead of extending both arms, sticking up both fingers and telling everyone to fuck off...maybe he's actually trying to accomplish something.
This President apparently doesn't worry about polls or numbers, but I really don't think he wants to end his presidency as one of the lowest rated presidents and one who lead us into one of, if not the worst mistakes this country has ever been involved with.
"Yet we're all held to the same standards, and called to serve the same good purposes: To extend this nation's prosperity; to spend the people's money wisely; to solve problems, not leave them to future generations; to guard America against all evil; and to keep faith with those we have sent forth to defend us.
HA! As if he's ever done ANY of those things!
What a crock of shit. One year, 11 months and 27 days to go.
He has extended this nation's prosperity, addressed problems of future generations (Social security - his plan was great but fear mongers squashed that, addressing the broken UN resolutions in Iraq, and has put his entire emphasis ON national security.) I will say, he hasn't really spent our money wisely though.
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
I remember Democrats saying that but opposing drilling on our own soil. Not W's fault.
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
The social security plan is in my opinion one of the biggest missed opportunities in a long time. People are afraid of change...so afraid that they don;t even think about how good it could have been.
That's ok, just let me continue to put money into a failed system of which I will never see a dime...that's fair i guess. Bunch of shit.
But they are drilling in Alaska. It's not at the quantity they want, but then by all estimates what could be pulled out of there by the best estimates would only make us dependent for a couple months...until it ran dry. And keep in mind those are by all accounts, best estimates.
Funding to alternate energy is still to this point a joke.
Agreed. It was politically dangerous ground, but it was actually a courageous and right thing to do. It got blocked for XY reasons. So instead, it now proceeds as a politically very safe thing, to let someone else worry about it as it begins to bankrupt.
drilling the artic refuge is a short term, band-aid solution to a problem. even by the admin's admission it would do little to reduce our dependence on foreign oil, esp long term. why not try a real long-term solution to a problem for once?
Even on a board like this...where the tilt is obviously to the left, I bet most people would prefer Bush's SS plan.
It's beyond frustrating to me though...you have people that espouse such hatred toward the guy (W), that they automattically oppose him on every issue...regardless of the substance. then you have people on the right who are so obsessed with obtaining power (cough McCain cough) that they don't care about solving these problems. Republicans in Congress hand their chance at solving SS, and they blew it....but maybe it's b/c young people don't vote as much as old people. Either way, it sucks.
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Is a short-term solution and a long-term solution necessarily mutually exclusive? That's what I don't get about the entire argument. Again, I am biased but it's why I view the left as disingenuous. You can have a long term goal while also dealing with presant day reality. He is proposing both...short term and long term solutions...to me, that's living in reality.
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
bush squandered any political capital/benefit of the doubt he ever had when he got into that mess in iraq. the opposition was steamrolled on that issue and it turned into such a clusterfuck that nobody was going to trust his judgment on anything else, and they had to stand firm to make up for their past mistakes. he blew it in 02 for himself. if he had stuck to his guns in afghanistan and tried to "spread freedom and democracy" there, we'd have a probably viable islamic democracy now, we'd all be patting him on the back, osama would have just been hung instead of hussein, and all his other policies would have been rubber stamped into approval. this was of dubya's making. he made iraq the central issue in american politics and he can pay the price for that. in the midst of a very expensive and uncertain war is not the time to be making sweeping overhauls of the nation's budget and finances.
Combining a short-term solution for immediate needs with a long-term search for future alternative sources is a decent plan. The oil from non-foreign sources is needed right away, and this is one source. Sure, we need to look ahead but that (the technology on a widespread scale) is years away.
He said some pretty good sounding things about immigration and reducing emissions though.
Drilling in the artic is completely irrational. It's like saying "Okay, instead of working fully to break this heroin addiction I'm just gonna go to a more reliable dealer".
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Oh my, they dropped the leash.
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he is PROPOSING both. the reason the left refuses to buy it is that the administration has NEVER shown any sort of commitment to environmental issues, from day one. in fact, they've been downright hostile. im not wiling to give him any inches until he proves he is going to go the mile. and i dont trust that. if i was convinced it was a short term solution with a serious commitment to pursuing the long term one, i might be willing to go along. but i just dont see it. i see a short term solution that will most likely be followed by another short term solution (drilling more in alaska) followed by another (who's next... louisiana?).