I died, I died and you just walked by..........

burtschips

PaperPlates wrote:

Everyone in the usa who isn't a WMA and tries, gets benefits.


And what do you mean no middle ground? You under the impression there's only homeless people and uber-wealthy people here?

Despite what you hear, the middle class is alive and well here in the usa.

Yeah, that's what I meant. I'll take your word for it, but I've never seen so many homeless people in a city before... I thought maybe a lot descended on SF during the winter bacause it was warmer on the west coast...anyway I got speaking to few who were selling magazines and I was repeating what they were saying to me.

PaperPlates

burtschips wrote:

Yeah, that's what I meant. I'll take your word for it, but I've never seen so many homeless people in a city before... I thought maybe a lot descended on SF during the winter bacause it was warmer on the west coast...anyway I got speaking to few who were selling magazines and I was repeating what they were saying to me.

Interesting how people abroad's PERCEPTIONS can be so easily swayed.

The warmth in the winter may account for the influx of homeless there.

And if you want to get a true idea of the economic levels in america, talking to a handful of homeless isn't exactly the most scientific method.

burtschips

PaperPlates wrote:

Interesting how people abroad's PERCEPTIONS can be so easily swayed.

The warmth in the winter may account for the influx of homeless there.

And if you want to get a true idea of the economic levels in america, talking to a handful of homeless isn't exactly the most scientific method.

ha, you're probably right.

Heineken Helen

burtschips wrote:

I was gonna say, that guy looks quite well turned out; good shoes, clean, warm coat.

maybe he's not homeless at all :eek: He only has one leg, maybe he fell over and got sick of asking people for help cos everyone was walking by :cool:

Byrnzie

PaperPlates wrote:

No offense, but how the hell would I have taken his picture from the left?


And yes, I'm human. Just not one like you. We are truly two different animals.

You may have set your camera on a timer so that you could include yourself in the pic. :rolleyes:

PaperPlates

Heineken Helen wrote:

maybe he's not homeless at all :eek: He only has one leg, maybe he fell over and got sick of asking people for help cos everyone was walking by :cool:

LOL maybe!

PaperPlates

Byrnzie wrote:

You may have set your camera on a timer so that you could include yourself in the pic. :rolleyes:

Yea, because setting your camera on a tripod in NYC and walking away from it is a GREAT idea.

belfast1

PaperPlates wrote:

I've checked his stuff out. I like it. I try not to "study" too much works of others, I'd rather think I'm original.

cool - with street photography no 2 pictures can look the same...

the 'urban ghost' up in toronto does some good stuff too - dont know if you've seen his work

have you got a website yourself?

belfast1

PaperPlates wrote:

Yea, because setting your camera on a tripod in NYC and walking away from it is a GREAT idea.

i found myself standing on 42nd st subway photographing a passing train when my wife tugged at my arm - "lets go - that man is going to steal your camera!!!" ...and sure enough he was in mid-steal !

luckily, i managed to turn and evade capture -

phew NYC eh? exciting place!!!

PaperPlates

belfast1 wrote:

i found myself standing on 42nd st subway photographing a passing train when my wife tugged at my arm - "lets go - that man is going to steal your camera!!!" ...and sure enough he was in mid-steal !

luckily, i managed to turn and evade capture -

phew NYC eh? exciting place!!!

No place like it on earth.

Restless Soul

PaperPlates wrote:

Everyone in the usa who isn't a WMA and tries, gets benefits.


And what do you mean no middle ground? You under the impression there's only homeless people and uber-wealthy people here?

Despite what you hear, the middle class is alive and well here in the usa.

I never said anything about no middle ground?

PaperPlates

Restless Soul wrote:

I never said anything about no middle ground?

I don't believe I was quoting you. I could be mistaken.


Happy Valentines Day!

PaperPlates

PaperPlates wrote:

I don't believe I was quoting you. I could be mistaken.


Happy Valentines Day!

Guess I did quote you. Sorry, another guy made a comment about the lack of distance between homeless and rich in the US.

My bad.

Have a good one!

haffajappa

PaperPlates wrote:

No. I don't believe in giving them money directly. Money in MOST of their hands, equals a dollar spent on booze.

I can't tell you how many times I have walked by a homeless person, who when they asked if I had any spare change, I answered, " no, but I run a business and would be glad to have you come work for some money to help you out", only to be told to go fuck myself.



Everyone creates their own reality, whether you regret that people like him exist, you still have to face why they exist. Its usually as much their choice as it is anyone elses fault.


But the image has cause discussion. Mission accomplished.

One time i gave a homeless guy a 5 cause i was at a parking ticket machine and it ended up giving me three 5's for change, and the guy helped me out with it cause it was a weird machine. So i asked him if he'd like one of the 5s. Of course he agreed - and of course we were right beside a liquor store and i knew that's where he'd head right afterwards... but for some reason it didnt really bother me.

I knew i'd just spend it at the starbucks down the street if i had kept it, and i guess i figured i'd at least make the dude have a happy moment and i could live without my 13 minutes of caffinated bliss.

decides2dream

very NYC.....and sure, evenflow.
thoughts arrive like butterflies...

lucylespian

I like those pics and I like the discussion. But I'm puzzled as to why anyone would think that a man with a below knee amputation and a prosthesis is either disabled or incapable of holding a job. Once he strapped his leg back on he would walk the street next to you and you could never tell unless you stood on this foot in a stiletto. He could ski down a slope next to you and you couldn't tell as all.
My impression is that he was tying a shoelace.
I was surprised by the beggars in Vancouver in winter, I guess they find it realaievely warm in winter there too. It is such a rare thing to see it in Australia, not totally unknown, but very uncommon.

PaperPlates

lucylespian wrote:

I like those pics and I like the discussion. But I'm puzzled as to why anyone would think that a man with a below knee amputation and a prosthesis is either disabled or incapable of holding a job. Once he strapped his leg back on he would walk the street next to you and you could never tell unless you stood on this foot in a stiletto. He could ski down a slope next to you and you couldn't tell as all.
My impression is that he was tying a shoelace.
I was surprised by the beggars in Vancouver in winter, I guess they find it realaievely warm in winter there too. It is such a rare thing to see it in Australia, not totally unknown, but very uncommon.

because liberals always think everyone less well off than them is a victim.

angryyoungman

what do you care if he spends the dollar on booze? i mean whatever gets him through the day, im sure he doesnt want to be in the situation he's in

PaperPlates

angryyoungman wrote:

what do you care if he spends the dollar on booze? i mean whatever gets him through the day, im sure he doesnt want to be in the situation he's in

I could 100% care less. Im simply against financing it. Thats MY booze money.

decides2dream

PaperPlates wrote:

because liberals always think everyone less well off than them is a victim.

ahhhhhhh....stereotypes. ain't life grand?