Home› The Art Wall

I died, I died and you just walked by..........

PaperPlatesPaperPlates Posts: 1,745
edited February 2007 in The Art Wall
Went to NYC a few weekends ago, here's a couple I took during the cold ass day. Thought they kinda had an "evenflow" vibe to them.

Enjoy.

_DWM7129-1.jpg

_DWM7129.jpg

_DWM7134.jpg
Why go home

www.myspace.com/jensvad
Post edited by Unknown User on
«1

Comments

  • PaperPlatesPaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    Doubled up on one, meant to post this as the third.

    _DWM7133.jpg
    Why go home

    www.myspace.com/jensvad
  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    Nice pics. They remind me of an Ani Difranco lyric.

    "i remember the first time i saw someone
    lying on the cold street
    i thought: i can't just walk past here
    this can't just be true
    but i learned by example
    to just keep moving my feet
    it's amazing the things that we all learn to do"
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • PaperPlatesPaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    While I didnt do anything physical to help the guy, I felt that if I shared the photo, I'd be in some small way reminding people that people like this exist, maybe Id help in some small way. :)
    Why go home

    www.myspace.com/jensvad
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    PaperPlates wrote:
    While I didnt do anything physical to help the guy, I felt that if I shared the photo, I'd be in some small way reminding people that people like this exist, maybe Id help in some small way. :)

    So you're human afterall? :confused: Shiiiit!! :rolleyes: ;)
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    So is that you to his left? :confused:
  • even flow?even flow? Posts: 8,066
    Did he know his picture was being taken? Just curious.
    You've changed your place in this world!
  • SwanSwan Posts: 350
    did you at least give the guy a dollar?
    I'm the only Hell Mama ever raised.
  • PaperPlatesPaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    Byrnzie wrote:
    So is that you to his left? :confused:

    No offense, but how the hell would I have taken his picture from the left?


    And yes, I'm human. Just not one like you. We are truly two different animals. ;)
    Why go home

    www.myspace.com/jensvad
  • PaperPlatesPaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    even flow? wrote:
    Did he know his picture was being taken? Just curious.

    No, I shot him with my 15mm lens on my camera at my hip, I like walking NYC and inconspicuously shooting people whilst they have no idea their picture is being taken.
    Why go home

    www.myspace.com/jensvad
  • PaperPlatesPaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    Miracle wrote:
    did you at least give the guy a dollar?

    No. I don't believe in giving them money directly. Money in MOST of their hands, equals a dollar spent on booze.

    I can't tell you how many times I have walked by a homeless person, who when they asked if I had any spare change, I answered, " no, but I run a business and would be glad to have you come work for some money to help you out", only to be told to go fuck myself.



    Everyone creates their own reality, whether you regret that people like him exist, you still have to face why they exist. Its usually as much their choice as it is anyone elses fault.


    But the image has cause discussion. Mission accomplished. :p
    Why go home

    www.myspace.com/jensvad
  • even flow?even flow? Posts: 8,066
    PaperPlates wrote:
    No, I shot him with my 15mm lens on my camera at my hip, I like walking NYC and inconspicuously shooting people whilst they have no idea their picture is being taken.


    Funny that you did it that way as I didn't think he or too many in that position would agree to having their pic taken.

    On a side note. I was in NYC years ago and there was this black dude whipping a crowd into a big frenzy. I asked who he was and they told me but I forget now. Anyway.....the next day I was walking with my camera in a different part of the city and who do I see whipping the crowd into a frenzy. The same guy. I go to shoot some pics and two of the biggest mfr's grab ahold of me and tell me not to bother shooting if I don't want to lose my camera and a few other choice things. I took the advice and listened to the dudes words of hate and then was on my way. Just thought I would share a picture story from NYC with ya.
    You've changed your place in this world!
  • belfast1belfast1 Posts: 788
    PaperPlates wrote:
    No, I shot him with my 15mm lens on my camera at my hip, I like walking NYC and inconspicuously shooting people whilst they have no idea their picture is being taken.

    hi paperplates!

    no doubt you are familiar with the work of markus hartel - i like his stuff a lot

    cheers :)
    dublin 1996 london 2000 dublin 2006 prague 2006 copenhagen 2007 london 2007 rotterdam 2009 london 2009 dublin 2010 belfast 2010 vienna 2014 amsterdam 2014 london 2018
  • KushikushunKushikushun Posts: 1,263
    The first pic is the best! My mind went WOW when I saw it. I like the way the guy is looking away and the woman is glancing at him. Tells a whole story, good composition, sharp.....yup you've nailed it!
    Why not be mediocre and be the best at it that you can be?
  • PaperPlatesPaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    belfast1 wrote:
    hi paperplates!

    no doubt you are familiar with the work of markus hartel - i like his stuff a lot

    cheers :)

    I've checked his stuff out. I like it. I try not to "study" too much works of others, I'd rather think I'm original. ;)
    Why go home

    www.myspace.com/jensvad
  • PaperPlatesPaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    even flow? wrote:
    Funny that you did it that way as I didn't think he or too many in that position would agree to having their pic taken.

    On a side note. I was in NYC years ago and there was this black dude whipping a crowd into a big frenzy. I asked who he was and they told me but I forget now. Anyway.....the next day I was walking with my camera in a different part of the city and who do I see whipping the crowd into a frenzy. The same guy. I go to shoot some pics and two of the biggest mfr's grab ahold of me and tell me not to bother shooting if I don't want to lose my camera and a few other choice things. I took the advice and listened to the dudes words of hate and then was on my way. Just thought I would share a picture story from NYC with ya.

    I find that even on days when I just sit on a corner, and point right at people, very few will even look over at you while you shoot them. They're to busy to give a flying F.

    Once in a while someone will give me the evil eye.

    But shooting from the hip with a 15mm fisheye gives me the benefit of being inconspicuous.
    Why go home

    www.myspace.com/jensvad
  • Restless SoulRestless Soul Posts: 805
    PaperPlates wrote:
    No. I don't believe in giving them money directly. Money in MOST of their hands, equals a dollar spent on booze.

    I can't tell you how many times I have walked by a homeless person, who when they asked if I had any spare change, I answered, " no, but I run a business and would be glad to have you come work for some money to help you out", only to be told to go fuck myself.



    Everyone creates their own reality, whether you regret that people like him exist, you still have to face why they exist. Its usually as much their choice as it is anyone elses fault.


    But the image has cause discussion. Mission accomplished. :p

    I like the photos :) But this guy with half a leg is hardly in a position to hold down a proper job. It's a bit unfair to grudge him a dollar!
    "We have to change the concept of patriotism to one of “matriotism” — love of humanity that transcends war. A matriarch would never send her own children off to wars that kill other people’s children." Cindy Sheehan
    ---
    London, Brixton, 14 July 1993
    London, Wembley, 1996
    London, Wembley, 18 June 2007
    London, O2, 18 August 2009
    London, Hammersmith Apollo (Ed solo), 31 July 2012
    Milton Keynes Bowl, 11 July 2014
    London, Hammersmith Apollo (Ed solo), 06 June 2017
    London, O2, 18 June 2018
    London, O2, 17 July 2018
    Amsterdam, Afas Live (Ed solo), 09 June 2019
    Amsterdam, Afas Live (Ed solo), 10 June 2019



  • PaperPlatesPaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    Restless Soul wrote:
    I like the photos :) But this guy with half a leg is hardly in a position to hold down a proper job. It's a bit unfair to grudge him a dollar!

    It is, in my opinion, a bit unfair to grudge/judge me for not giving him a dollar. A good percentage of panhandlers in NYC actually make more money per year than I probably do. And its tax free to boot.
    Why go home

    www.myspace.com/jensvad
  • burtschipsburtschips Posts: 734
    PaperPlates wrote:
    It is, in my opinion, a bit unfair to grudge/judge me for not giving him a dollar. A good percentage of panhandlers in NYC actually make more money per year than I probably do. And its tax free to boot.

    I was gonna say, that guy looks quite well turned out; good shoes, clean, warm coat.

    I went to San Fran last November, one of the things that struck me most was the amount of homeless, much more than london or anywhere in the uk. Does not seem to be much middle ground there. A lot of them looked in a really bad way.
    Salut baloo
  • Restless SoulRestless Soul Posts: 805
    PaperPlates wrote:
    It is, in my opinion, a bit unfair to grudge/judge me for not giving him a dollar. A good percentage of panhandlers in NYC actually make more money per year than I probably do. And its tax free to boot.


    But this guy is disabled, he probably can't even get a job.

    Not to throw this thread off-topic or anything but what is the situation for disabled people in america? Do they get benefits?
    "We have to change the concept of patriotism to one of “matriotism” — love of humanity that transcends war. A matriarch would never send her own children off to wars that kill other people’s children." Cindy Sheehan
    ---
    London, Brixton, 14 July 1993
    London, Wembley, 1996
    London, Wembley, 18 June 2007
    London, O2, 18 August 2009
    London, Hammersmith Apollo (Ed solo), 31 July 2012
    Milton Keynes Bowl, 11 July 2014
    London, Hammersmith Apollo (Ed solo), 06 June 2017
    London, O2, 18 June 2018
    London, O2, 17 July 2018
    Amsterdam, Afas Live (Ed solo), 09 June 2019
    Amsterdam, Afas Live (Ed solo), 10 June 2019



  • PaperPlatesPaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    Restless Soul wrote:
    But this guy is disabled, he probably can't even get a job.

    Not to throw this thread off-topic or anything but what is the situation for disabled people in america? Do they get benefits?

    Everyone in the usa who isn't a WMA and tries, gets benefits.


    And what do you mean no middle ground? You under the impression there's only homeless people and uber-wealthy people here?

    Despite what you hear, the middle class is alive and well here in the usa.


    :)
    Why go home

    www.myspace.com/jensvad
  • burtschipsburtschips Posts: 734
    PaperPlates wrote:
    Everyone in the usa who isn't a WMA and tries, gets benefits.


    And what do you mean no middle ground? You under the impression there's only homeless people and uber-wealthy people here?

    Despite what you hear, the middle class is alive and well here in the usa.


    :)

    Yeah, that's what I meant. I'll take your word for it, but I've never seen so many homeless people in a city before... I thought maybe a lot descended on SF during the winter bacause it was warmer on the west coast...anyway I got speaking to few who were selling magazines and I was repeating what they were saying to me.
    Salut baloo
  • PaperPlatesPaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    burtschips wrote:
    Yeah, that's what I meant. I'll take your word for it, but I've never seen so many homeless people in a city before... I thought maybe a lot descended on SF during the winter bacause it was warmer on the west coast...anyway I got speaking to few who were selling magazines and I was repeating what they were saying to me.

    Interesting how people abroad's PERCEPTIONS can be so easily swayed.

    The warmth in the winter may account for the influx of homeless there.

    And if you want to get a true idea of the economic levels in america, talking to a handful of homeless isn't exactly the most scientific method. ;)
    Why go home

    www.myspace.com/jensvad
  • burtschipsburtschips Posts: 734
    PaperPlates wrote:
    Interesting how people abroad's PERCEPTIONS can be so easily swayed.

    The warmth in the winter may account for the influx of homeless there.

    And if you want to get a true idea of the economic levels in america, talking to a handful of homeless isn't exactly the most scientific method. ;)

    ha, you're probably right.
    Salut baloo
  • Heineken HelenHeineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    burtschips wrote:
    I was gonna say, that guy looks quite well turned out; good shoes, clean, warm coat.
    maybe he's not homeless at all :eek: He only has one leg, maybe he fell over and got sick of asking people for help cos everyone was walking by :cool:
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    PaperPlates wrote:
    No offense, but how the hell would I have taken his picture from the left?


    And yes, I'm human. Just not one like you. We are truly two different animals. ;)

    You may have set your camera on a timer so that you could include yourself in the pic. :rolleyes:
  • PaperPlatesPaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    Heineken Helen wrote:
    maybe he's not homeless at all :eek: He only has one leg, maybe he fell over and got sick of asking people for help cos everyone was walking by :cool:

    LOL maybe!
    Why go home

    www.myspace.com/jensvad
  • PaperPlatesPaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    Byrnzie wrote:
    You may have set your camera on a timer so that you could include yourself in the pic. :rolleyes:

    Yea, because setting your camera on a tripod in NYC and walking away from it is a GREAT idea. :)
    Why go home

    www.myspace.com/jensvad
  • belfast1belfast1 Posts: 788
    PaperPlates wrote:
    I've checked his stuff out. I like it. I try not to "study" too much works of others, I'd rather think I'm original. ;)


    cool - with street photography no 2 pictures can look the same...

    the 'urban ghost' up in toronto does some good stuff too - dont know if you've seen his work

    have you got a website yourself?
    dublin 1996 london 2000 dublin 2006 prague 2006 copenhagen 2007 london 2007 rotterdam 2009 london 2009 dublin 2010 belfast 2010 vienna 2014 amsterdam 2014 london 2018
  • belfast1belfast1 Posts: 788
    PaperPlates wrote:
    Yea, because setting your camera on a tripod in NYC and walking away from it is a GREAT idea. :)


    i found myself standing on 42nd st subway photographing a passing train when my wife tugged at my arm - "lets go - that man is going to steal your camera!!!" ...and sure enough he was in mid-steal !

    luckily, i managed to turn and evade capture -

    phew NYC eh? exciting place!!! :)
    dublin 1996 london 2000 dublin 2006 prague 2006 copenhagen 2007 london 2007 rotterdam 2009 london 2009 dublin 2010 belfast 2010 vienna 2014 amsterdam 2014 london 2018
  • PaperPlatesPaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    belfast1 wrote:
    i found myself standing on 42nd st subway photographing a passing train when my wife tugged at my arm - "lets go - that man is going to steal your camera!!!" ...and sure enough he was in mid-steal !

    luckily, i managed to turn and evade capture -

    phew NYC eh? exciting place!!! :)

    No place like it on earth.
    Why go home

    www.myspace.com/jensvad
Sign In or Register to comment.