How many times has someone said this to you?

decides2dream

voodoopug wrote:

Doesn't bother me at all. The fact of life is that Pearl Jam's music as a whole isn't for everyone. We enjoy it and thats all that matters.

now if someone told me that the Beatles were better than the Stones or that Aerosmith has original talent or that Led Zeppelin can play live.....then we'd have to have a discussion.

absolutely agree with your first statement.
musical taste is subjective.

however, the beatles vs. stones discussion i most definitely would DISagree with you there. aerosmith, whateva....and once upon a time, i think led zep probably could, although i never got to see the full band live, just page/plant at live aid. anyhoo, differing perspectives.......:p

TKD

voodoopug wrote:

Doesn't bother me at all. The fact of life is that Pearl Jam's music as a whole isn't for everyone. We enjoy it and thats all that matters.

now if someone told me that the Beatles were better than the Stones or that Aerosmith has original talent or that Led Zeppelin can play live.....then we'd have to have a discussion.

yeah, I think we need to have a discussion about that zeppelin comment :-)

PJBuckeye

I get that all the time. It kinda bothers me, but most people are into poppy crap that lacks substance. So, great albums like No Code, Yield and Avocado completely pass them by. People are just musically ignorant.

However, music ignorance is not limited to Pearl Jam. Here's a couple of other examples of musical ignorance.

1. March of 2007, I took my wife to see Aaron Lewis do one of his solo shows (Wife really likes Staind and it was a really, really good show with PJ covers) at HOB in Chicago. You wouldn't have believed the blank faces that I got when I explained to coworkers that I was going to see Aaron Lewis. I would say, "you know the lead singer of Staind." They would reply "who's Staind?" or "I don't think I know who that is." This is a band with a shit load of radio hits in the early 2000's. They got lots of radio play, and people don't even know who they are.

2. My second example is when I was telling people (back home) about going to the Roo. Of course people didn't really know much abot the Roo, but people showed their lack of knowledge when I started naming bands that were going to be at Roo. Barely anybody knew who the Racontuers, Phil Lesh, Death Cab, MMJ or OAR were. Even less people knew great bands like DBT, Umphrey's, State Radio, MGMT, or Vampire Weekend. The bands most people knew were PJ, JJ, Metalica, Kanye, BB, and Willie Nelson. That's it.

I guess what I am tying to say is that most people don't know their head from their ass when it comes to music. Don't be offended by PJ ignorance, because they are probably ignorant about alot of other music. It's their loss.

alluneedislove

Oh well, guess PJ will have to be our secret. No inclination on my part to educate the ignorant. Don't need any more competition for 10c seats than we already have!!

Spot In The Sky

Just proves they werent big fans, just radio listeners and then when they had no more radio songs- they assumed they broke up or died.

Ledbetterdays

Happened at a 4th BBQ for me. I talked about the show in Tampa and was asked if they even had any new songs. Then today was told that No Code was a terrible album and that the person was mad he bought it.

gabers

PJBuckeye wrote:

2. My second example is when I went to the Roo. Of course people didn't really know much abot the Roo, but people showed their lack of knowledge when I started naming bands that were going to be at Roo. Barely anybody knew who the Racontuers, Phil Lesh, Death Cab, MMJ or OAR were. Even less people knew great bands like DBT, Umphrey's, State Radio, MGMT, or Vampire Weekend. The bands most people knew were PJ, JJ, Metalica, Kanye, BB, and Willie Nelson. That's it.

How can you go to Bonnaroo and not know who the Raconteurs and MMJ are??? Some people blow my mind.

manipulatedliving

gabers wrote:

"Yeah, I used to like Pearl Jam. Their first two albums were good then after that I didn't care for them." Does that make you instantly think that this person is an idiot, has no taste in music, or both?

A few weeks ago i was drinking with a buddy of mine, and he asked me once earlier in the night if i could play once on guitar, and i told him yeah, and played it for him. He insisted to tell me that Ten was the ONLY good album, and the rest was dog shit, but he did really like once. After he got obliterated later that night he asked me three other times if i knew how to play once (forgetting i had played it all the times before). People really need to get off the ten bandwagon. Theres more to pj than just evenflow and jeremy.

PJBuckeye

gabers wrote:

How can you go to Bonnaroo and not know who the Raconteurs and MMJ are??? Some people blow my mind.

I think I wrote that poorly. Not people at Roo. The people in Chicago that I was talking to about Roo didn't know all of those bands. Sorry, I have cleaned up my post.

libragirl

gabers wrote:

How can you go to Bonnaroo and not know who the Raconteurs and MMJ are??? Some people blow my mind.

I know this is probably off topic but I think Im the only PJ fan who doesn't like MMJ..I just can't get into them...I do like the Raconteurs though

JimMacLeod

One of my wife's coworkers trashes on Pearl Jam. She doesn't outright say it, but the basis for her argument is "I liked Pearl Jam before they were cool. Now everybody likes them, so they suck."

I've been dealing with idiots like this for 15 years.

Uncle Neil

I think the musical ignorance is all relative though. As was said in an earlier post, people just don't keep up with music like all of us do. And to be fair, the guy I sit next to at work is a big "gamer" and he was talking to me about these games that he plays and I had absolutely no idea what he was talking about. I'm a young guy (24) but I could really give two shits about gaming. But he just looked at me like I was an alien because I'd never heard of these games....that's kinda how we are with people about Pearl Jam. Not everyone is hardcore into music.

jeffwmartin

Röeghmann wrote:

like that story.
I was talking to a new co-worker the other day. He was into rock music and we chatted about Zeppelin, Ac/Dc, Metallica etc. And the he metioned Nickelback as beeing his favorite band. I mentioned Pearl Jam as mine. He responded with a.........WHO?
Help me here, how can you as a 30+ year old fan of rock music know nickelback and not PJ?

Anyone who can choose nickleback as their favorite band is obviously a) an escaped mental patient or b) has never heard good music or c) joking.

Heineken Helen

jeffwmartin wrote:

Anyone who can choose nickleback as their favorite band is obviously a) an escaped mental patient or b) has never heard good music or c) joking.

Judging by his name... I'm gonna go with d) foreign

washedinblack91

in 11th grade my history teacher grabbed my headphones and put them on while i was listening to Vs and he said "...is this pearl jam?... they haven't had a good album since that pink one, and eddie vedder sounds like his toe got hit with a hammer". when we had a sub, i asked the sub if he knew pearl jam, he said "yea, i used to love them until their third album.." ugh!

but wait!

my cab driver one day when i was going to school noticed i had a bronx accent and asked if i liked daddy yankee. i told him i didnt listen to that kind of music and that i listened to rock. he asked what band, i told him, and he said "isn't that the band with the dead guy?"

UGHHH!

sure it gets annoying and a little frustrating. i always get "oh yeah i used to like them but i stopped listening to them after vi... vital... you know, the third one".. but i've kind of accepted the fact that people stopped liking them and i've learned to say hey, if you want to listen to shitty music, be my guest it makes it that much more exciting to meet someone who actually LIKES binaural

oh, and i always get a lot of "i thought they broke up" or "they're still together?" or "wasn't their last album like 10 years ago?"
ignorant fools

BEnglish017

yeah i was talking to my manager the other day (who is a drummer in a local band). he knows pearl jam is still around but he is the typical "the 1st 2 were good but..." and i brought up matt camron. he said man i love that guy, what ever happened to him? i was like he is in pearl jam and he had no idea. i was like yeah he's been there for almost 10 years now. he does have decent taste in music though, just not a pearl jam fan for some odd reason.

knitted

years ago, like, 1998, i was really excited coz i was having lunch with a bunch of people i hadn't seen in a while and i knew one of them was a big pj fan who had seen them in 95, loved it, and was just mad for them. so when she arrived i tried to be cool but could hardly wait to ask her how much of a good time she had had at their more recent gig (yield tour and a fantastic gig) a month or so earlier, she said 'oh i didn't really know the songs so it was kinda boring and all the people crashing into me dancing really pissed me off'

bummed me out for the rest of the lunch. don't think i've spoken to her since.



all these people are losers and we are not coz we love the best band in the world and they don't.

thunderDAN

my friend said to me once: "I saw them in concert and it was alright, they didn't play too much off of Ten- I'm not sure why because that is all people want to hear" --I wanted to punch him in the face.

JaneNY

It seems like the majority of people just kind of leave music behind once they leave their teens and maybe early 20's. Then they just remember what they listened to. I think it is strange as here I am in my 40's listening to all of Pearl Jam, and keeping up with new music and new bands, and discovering older ones that I somehow missed. Most people my age and quite younger than me do not. It just seems to be the way the average person is.

Fatal

It just makes me think that they've missed out on years of great music and great shows...