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  • Ms. Haiku
    Ms. Haiku Washington DC Posts: 7,389
    For New Year's I decided on 1-2-3

    Submit 1 manuscript to a chapbook publisher
    Submit poetry to 2 magazines
    Submit poetry to 3 poetry contests.

    I guess I have to get started, eh?
    There is no such thing as leftover pizza. There is now pizza and later pizza. - anonymous
    The risk I took was calculated, but man, am I bad at math - The Mincing Mockingbird
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    Ms. Haiku wrote:
    Could you give me an example? Do you mean trade off this site or on the site? I've posted here before I just haven't put pen to poetry in a while.

    The photograph book I feature in today's coffee post on my cookieempress blog is very inspirational. When I look at winding stairs in towns of stones of Greece or Italy, and I listen to Flamenco music I think of lemons and sunlight, and the piercing brilliance of sharp thoughts. Needs a little more intuition, but clarity is a start. Here is the one I wrote over 3 years ago

    http://inspiredpoetrysubmission.blogspot.com/2007/06/inspired-by-paco-pena-cd-azahara.html


    i never read or wrote a Haiku, to my knowledge anyways.
    what i was saying is, show me how.
    i just let it go/flow, no rules or boundary to speak of.

    just something that feels good, is why i write, feels like an implosion.
    always striving, searching internaly/internally for ingnition.
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    chadwick wrote:
    i never read or wrote a Haiku, to my knowledge anyways.
    what i was saying is, show me how.
    i just let it go/flow, no rules or boundary to speak of.

    just something that feels good, is why i write, feels like an implosion.
    always striving, searching internaly/internally for ingnition.

    this shit owns me.
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • Ms. Haiku
    Ms. Haiku Washington DC Posts: 7,389
    chadwick wrote:
    i never read or wrote a Haiku, to my knowledge anyways.
    what i was saying is, show me how.
    i just let it go/flow, no rules or boundary to speak of.

    just something that feels good, is why i write, feels like an implosion.
    always striving, searching internaly/internally for ingnition.
    As far as haiku I may be the best person to ask, and at the same time the worst person to ask. The best because I studied it for years just looking for the Aha! moment. The worst because I don't believe in the
    5 syllable/7 syllable/5 syllable math lesson structure that English speakers are taught. From a post on this forum a few years ago, someone noted how haiku is marked as
    5 syllables
    7 syllables
    5 syllables in the dictionary. I wrote that the dictionary was wrong :)

    First and foremost haiku encompasses two views; short view and long view. Long view should contain a reference to "the bigger picture" of the moment. In many cases it is a reference to the season. How I teach the short view is that it's what can be seen within 100 ft. So, look near and look far, and see the discrepancy. The fact that it is even though it may not make sense creates the Aha! For instance, say in April there is a snow storm. However, the day before a bicyle was left in the backyard because it was Spring weather. To write a haiku about it could be written as:

    broken bicyle rack carries snow
    Easter decorations

    This implies snowstorm, bit it implies the discrepancy as Easter decorations are up. This is a good place to start http://www.hsa-haiku.org/frogpond.htm


    It is not courtly poetry. It is simple, and raw. Yet, sometimes a moment, which is what the haiku is after, is so brilliant in understanding that it's like the sun took residence in my eyes.

    To work on it I'd start by this:

    Write a short poem between 9-15 syllables, between 2-3 lines, and include a short view, and a long view. See what happens, and go from there. I've read good 2 line haiku, but I haven't read any good 1 line haiku.

    Haiku was first an opening for a long poem created by a group of people. Haiku was originally from Japan, and the syllable restriction translated into 5/7/5 in English. However, Japanese language has syllables for sounds that aren't included in English. If you want structure similar to the 5/7/5 structure I would suggest 2 stressed syllables/3 stressed syllables/2 stressed sylllables.
    There is no such thing as leftover pizza. There is now pizza and later pizza. - anonymous
    The risk I took was calculated, but man, am I bad at math - The Mincing Mockingbird
  • Ms. Haiku
    Ms. Haiku Washington DC Posts: 7,389
    There are some incredible haiku in http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=95954&highlight=haiku.

    I asked the writers if they would let me write the poems out and send it to PJ as a gift. It was a little black canvas hardcover book. Pretty cool.
    There is no such thing as leftover pizza. There is now pizza and later pizza. - anonymous
    The risk I took was calculated, but man, am I bad at math - The Mincing Mockingbird
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    Ms. Haiku wrote:
    As far as haiku I may be the best person to ask, and at the same time the worst person to ask. The best because I studied it for years just looking for the Aha! moment. The worst because I don't believe in the
    5 syllable/7 syllable/5 syllable math lesson structure that English speakers are taught. From a post on this forum a few years ago, someone noted how haiku is marked as
    5 syllables
    7 syllables
    5 syllables in the dictionary. I wrote that the dictionary was wrong :)

    First and foremost haiku encompasses two views; short view and long view. Long view should contain a reference to "the bigger picture" of the moment. In many cases it is a reference to the season. How I teach the short view is that it's what can be seen within 100 ft. So, look near and look far, and see the discrepancy. The fact that it is even though it may not make sense creates the Aha! For instance, say in April there is a snow storm. However, the day before a bicyle was left in the backyard because it was Spring weather. To write a haiku about it could be written as:

    broken bicyle rack carries snow
    Easter decorations

    This implies snowstorm, bit it implies the discrepancy as Easter decorations are up. This is a good place to start http://www.hsa-haiku.org/frogpond.htm


    It is not courtly poetry. It is simple, and raw. Yet, sometimes a moment, which is what the haiku is after, is so brilliant in understanding that it's like the sun took residence in my eyes.

    To work on it I'd start by this:

    Write a short poem between 9-15 syllables, between 2-3 lines, and include a short view, and a long view. See what happens, and go from there. I've read good 2 line haiku, but I haven't read any good 1 line haiku.

    Haiku was first an opening for a long poem created by a group of people. Haiku was originally from Japan, and the syllable restriction translated into 5/7/5 in English. However, Japanese language has syllables for sounds that aren't included in English. If you want structure similar to the 5/7/5 structure I would suggest 2 stressed syllables/3 stressed syllables/2 stressed sylllables.

    my brain is mush just by lookin at this.
    i just did algebra and english classes.
    i'm screwed, school, i must be insane.
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    Ms. Haiku wrote:
    As far as haiku I may be the best person to ask, and at the same time the worst person to ask. The best because I studied it for years just looking for the Aha! moment. The worst because I don't believe in the
    5 syllable/7 syllable/5 syllable math lesson structure that English speakers are taught. From a post on this forum a few years ago, someone noted how haiku is marked as
    5 syllables
    7 syllables
    5 syllables in the dictionary. I wrote that the dictionary was wrong :)

    First and foremost haiku encompasses two views; short view and long view. Long view should contain a reference to "the bigger picture" of the moment. In many cases it is a reference to the season. How I teach the short view is that it's what can be seen within 100 ft. So, look near and look far, and see the discrepancy. The fact that it is even though it may not make sense creates the Aha! For instance, say in April there is a snow storm. However, the day before a bicyle was left in the backyard because it was Spring weather. To write a haiku about it could be written as:

    broken bicyle rack carries snow
    Easter decorations

    This implies snowstorm, bit it implies the discrepancy as Easter decorations are up. This is a good place to start http://www.hsa-haiku.org/frogpond.htm


    It is not courtly poetry. It is simple, and raw. Yet, sometimes a moment, which is what the haiku is after, is so brilliant in understanding that it's like the sun took residence in my eyes.

    To work on it I'd start by this:

    Write a short poem between 9-15 syllables, between 2-3 lines, and include a short view, and a long view. See what happens, and go from there. I've read good 2 line haiku, but I haven't read any good 1 line haiku.

    Haiku was first an opening for a long poem created by a group of people. Haiku was originally from Japan, and the syllable restriction translated into 5/7/5 in English. However, Japanese language has syllables for sounds that aren't included in English. If you want structure similar to the 5/7/5 structure I would suggest 2 stressed syllables/3 stressed syllables/2 stressed sylllables.

    that's insane.
    haha.
    you're killin me here.

    beat my head on walls of brick.
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    broken bicyle rack carries snow
    Easter decorations


    rusty cars pull frozen streets
    Ice races

    yes?
    no?
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • Ms. Haiku
    Ms. Haiku Washington DC Posts: 7,389
    chadwick wrote:
    broken bicyle rack carries snow
    Easter decorations


    rusty cars pull frozen streets
    Ice races

    yes?
    no?
    Yes!
    There is no such thing as leftover pizza. There is now pizza and later pizza. - anonymous
    The risk I took was calculated, but man, am I bad at math - The Mincing Mockingbird
  • Ms. Haiku
    Ms. Haiku Washington DC Posts: 7,389
    Monday was created by a trust-fund baby!

    Also, as many pleasures were created in reaction to horrific circumstances . . . chocolate was created on Tuesday ;)
    There is no such thing as leftover pizza. There is now pizza and later pizza. - anonymous
    The risk I took was calculated, but man, am I bad at math - The Mincing Mockingbird
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    Ms. Haiku wrote:
    Monday was created by a trust-fund baby!

    Also, as many pleasures were created in reaction to horrific circumstances . . . chocolate was created on Tuesday ;)

    you might just be insane ;)
    that is quite brilliant.
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    i wish i were a puppy.
    you'd adopt me, keep me safe.
    i'd take naps with you on rainy days.
    curl up to you under blankets so warm.
    i'd stay next to you forever, safe and sound.
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    x (3) = what the fuck
    funny shit really.
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • Jamal
    Jamal Posts: 2,115
    The words behind which I hide
    represent the turn of tides
    A whirl of emotions in this world
    a world that does not feel a single thing

    Keep me from harm
    oh won't you please try
    at least to keep me warm
    close to, or better yet, inside your heart

    Love me back
    Surf little waves big... Charge big waves hard

    - Antwerp '06, Nijmegen '07, Werchter '07
  • justam
    justam Posts: 21,415
    Love says
    freedom is understanding
    freedom is forgiveness
    freedom is giving
    so let's be free
    each man, each woman, be
    better than we
    fear
    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&
  • Jamal
    Jamal Posts: 2,115
    justam wrote:
    Love says
    freedom is understanding
    freedom is forgiveness
    freedom is giving
    so let's be free
    each man, each woman, be
    better than we
    fear
    Love says one thing
    thinks another
    Do not be fooled
    mistrust is the safe approach

    Do not believe a cynic's view
    mistrust the mistrusting
    yet be careful who you trust
    and let not your heart fall victim in this life
    Surf little waves big... Charge big waves hard

    - Antwerp '06, Nijmegen '07, Werchter '07
  • justam
    justam Posts: 21,415
    Jamal wrote:
    Love says one thing
    thinks another
    Do not be fooled
    mistrust is the safe approach

    Do not believe a cynic's view
    mistrust the mistrusting
    yet be careful who you trust
    and let not your heart fall victim in this life

    LOL! :D
    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&
  • Jamal
    Jamal Posts: 2,115
    justam wrote:
    LOL! :D
    errrm...
    I liked your piece and wanted to respond in a poetic way

    But I kind of meant what I wrote (it may be the whisky taling though :p)
    Surf little waves big... Charge big waves hard

    - Antwerp '06, Nijmegen '07, Werchter '07
  • risa
    risa Posts: 42
    hmm... thoughts...

    i am stranded in a cup
    standing on ice
    fearing that any moment now
    i will be
    the extension of the sea
    i waited all day.
    you waited all day..
    but you left before sunset..

    ...should have stayed for the sunset...
    if not for me.
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    risa wrote:
    hmm... thoughts...

    i am stranded in a cup
    standing on ice
    fearing that any moment now
    i will be
    the extension of the sea

    i likey.
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
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