is Black a selfish song

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  • men always want what they lost or can't have.

    it's a guy thing.
    WOOT!
  • Take my hand, my child of love
    Come step inside my tears
    Swim the magic ocean,
    I've been crying all these years



    What is this from?
    "In the age of darkness
    want to be enlightened"
  • TheBeach wrote:
    Take my hand, my child of love
    Come step inside my tears
    Swim the magic ocean,
    I've been crying all these years



    What is this from?
    a quick google could tell you.


    symptom of the universe - black sabbath/ozzzy.


    why, do you like the lines ??
    I have faced it, A life wasted...

    Take my hand, my child of love
    Come step inside my tears
    Swim the magic ocean,
    I've been crying all these years
  • a quick google could tell you.


    symptom of the universe - black sabbath/ozzzy.


    why, do you like the lines ??

    Yes, Something in it sounded familiar.
    "In the age of darkness
    want to be enlightened"
  • Thorns2010Thorns2010 Posts: 2,201
    The love of my life was in my store the other day. Sadly she was looking for wedding music! :( :p

    Anyway, when that crashed and burned....oh 7-8 years ago, you know for damn sure this song was playing a hell of a lot!

    When I told one of my co-workers that she is the love of my life, he said 'No she isn't' But man, he doesn't know!!


    Why can't it be mine?
  • The LONG and MUCHLY debated SUN/STAR.....It will differ depending on the wind sometimes. I am of the OPINION that it was ORIGINALLY "SUN" and evolved into star over the years. You will NEVER convince me otherwise, but to each his own....:D
    http://www.tenclub.net/songs/song.php?song=Black
  • At least in my mind, I've always saw those lyrics more as a case of Lament... it doesn't sound like the man is selfish, only that he wishes being a part of his life could have make her happy...

    ...it made sense to me anyway... I've had exes who I'll always love, who moved on and found their happiness elsewhere... I'm insanely happy for them, but there are moments where I lament that it could not be found with me...

    My two cents...
    I concur :)
  • pjtradekingpjtradeking Posts: 4,045

    Very aware of this, thank you. This site came out LOOOONG after the song, and I am sure that the lyrics were taken from the records as well...The lyrics arent listed in the liner notes of TEN either. There is NOTHING you can do to convince me otherwise. Your efforts are futile. :D:D
    Never, ever, flipping forget
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    My friend was going to see Eddie last night. Since he was in Vegas, I gave him 5 Grand to gamble with. I told him I wanted it all to go on Black. Bastard! PhillyCrownOfThorns-11-2-12
  • Very aware of this, thank you. This site came out LOOOONG after the song, and I am sure that the lyrics were taken from the records as well...The lyrics arent listed in the liner notes of TEN either. There is NOTHING you can do to convince me otherwise. Your efforts are futile. :D:D
    Hahaha:D
    I just ran and checked my cassette of Ten that I bought when it was first released here....and you're right....not there :confused:
    We hear what we hear, I guess.....and I tried to hear it with 'sun' today and nope....don't hear it, sorry :)
  • pjtradekingpjtradeking Posts: 4,045
    Hahaha:D
    I just ran and checked my cassette of Ten that I bought when it was first released here....and you're right....not there :confused:
    We hear what we hear, I guess.....and I tried to hear it with 'sun' today and nope....don't hear it, sorry :)

    No worries...Your not the only one!! ;) hahaha...I just KNEW you would go look at the cassette or cd!! hahaha..Just had that feeling! :D
    Never, ever, flipping forget
    "Free Shipping" SPEEDY MCCREADY

    My friend was going to see Eddie last night. Since he was in Vegas, I gave him 5 Grand to gamble with. I told him I wanted it all to go on Black. Bastard! PhillyCrownOfThorns-11-2-12
  • No worries...Your not the only one!! ;) hahaha...I just KNEW you would go look at the cassette or cd!! hahaha..Just had that feeling! :D
    LOL! yeah....decided not to bother with the CD and go straight for the good ol' tape, seeing as though it was the first PJ item I ever bought allllll those years ago (so older than my CD)....was hoping to be able to say "haha!! gotcha! lyrics ARE on the cassette cover":D but no :o hehehe!
  • DissidentmanDissidentman Posts: 15,378
    selfish people hear the lyric as "sun", that must be what it is!
  • evenkatevenkat Posts: 380
    Hi IS,

    I wouldn't say it is a selfish song. He may want something...but wanting something and being selfish are two different things.

    I think selfish would be...I want it and nobody else is going to have it even if I can't.

    It seems the way the song is written that he is expressing that she will move on and he knows someone else will have her.

    Regarding the Sun/Star quesion...our sun is a star. So not sure how much it would change ones interpretation of the song.
    "...believe in lies...to get by...it's divine...whoa...oh, you know what its like..."
  • pjtradekingpjtradeking Posts: 4,045
    selfish people hear the lyric as "sun", that must be what it is!

    HAHAHA...And I am a selfish person, so this is all STARting to fall into place isnt it! ;)
    Never, ever, flipping forget
    "Free Shipping" SPEEDY MCCREADY

    My friend was going to see Eddie last night. Since he was in Vegas, I gave him 5 Grand to gamble with. I told him I wanted it all to go on Black. Bastard! PhillyCrownOfThorns-11-2-12
  • DissidentmanDissidentman Posts: 15,378
    I'v been listening to early demos of "Light Years" and I think Ed says "your light made us suns"

    Who's with me???
  • DissidentmanDissidentman Posts: 15,378
    Come to think of it, I was watching the directors cut of "Star Wars" recently, and they kept referring to the Death Star as the Death Sun. Weird.
  • I see it as lament rather than selfishness.

    He hopes/knows she'll be happy and have a great life, he just wishes they could still be together.

    Maybe a little bit of selfishness, but as others have said, that is love. We stay in relationships (at least healthy ones) because of what we get out of them (i.e. how they make us feel etc.). Of course we also give, or our partner isn't going to stay in them because they are getting anything out of them.
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  • fanch75fanch75 Posts: 3,734
    its not love.

    Kick ass, that's an awesome Dokken song!
    Do you remember Rock & Roll Radio?
  • writersuwritersu Posts: 1,867
    selfish people hear the lyric as "sun", that must be what it is!


    I,being one of the selfish ones, think the work is "sun" and also being one of the group, think the song was written for me.........



    (wow, even joking that sounded so fucked up)
    Baby, You Wouldn't Last a Minute on The Creek......


    Together we will float like angels.........

    In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
  • justamjustam Posts: 21,412
    Part of love is wanting the person to be nearby. I don't think expressing the desire to be with a beloved is selfish!!

    Questions like this just seem like someone looking for things to criticize! :p

    :)
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  • pjtradekingpjtradeking Posts: 4,045
    writersu wrote:
    I,being one of the selfish ones, think the work is "sun" and also being one of the group, think the song was written for me.........



    (wow, even joking that sounded so fucked up)

    WOW!!! I am no longer on an island by myself...was wondering when one of US would chime in!! ;)
    Never, ever, flipping forget
    "Free Shipping" SPEEDY MCCREADY

    My friend was going to see Eddie last night. Since he was in Vegas, I gave him 5 Grand to gamble with. I told him I wanted it all to go on Black. Bastard! PhillyCrownOfThorns-11-2-12
  • SENROCKSENROCK Posts: 10,736
    The LONG and MUCHLY debated SUN/STAR.....It will differ depending on the wind sometimes. I am of the OPINION that it was ORIGINALLY "SUN" and evolved into star over the years. You will NEVER convince me otherwise, but to each his own....:D

    YOU are just outta control!!! :)


    p.s IndianSummer, asking WHY CANT IT BE MINE is a question everyone asks. Not really selfish but more of an honest question....
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