Kat/Sea

EvilToasterElf

Traver DiDiminico wrote:

I care not for publication/posting. Putting pen to paper happens for a reason. Bob Dylan said that he regrets the fact that he ever recorded his music. For example, his live versions of "Tangled Up in Blue" consistently change-they are fluid. My point is that you should not discount the first time he sang it. It is as true as the last time he sang it. There is no "version". In my mind editing is an attempt to erase these previous "versions" and paint them as wrong or incorrect or not well thought out, etc.

That's why there are good poets and bad poets and everything in between, a good poet finds the best way to communicate beauty or passion or emotion through words, it is a process, some people think a poem is never finished, and it certainly isn't done on the first draft. Editing is necessary if you want your poetry to rise above the masses who think just writing what they feel on a piece of paper passes as sincere art, poetry is not a journal - it's poetry - it requires skill and craft - When Ginsburg reads Howl he can change it up as much as he wants and record, theat would be the equivalent of recording all of your live shows for music.

Traver DiDiminico

FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:

But don't we write/edit/construct a text just by reading it? Doesn't a text change in its associations and subtexts each time we go to it? Aren't we, as Ed wisely said, part-owners of a text? Don't we determinine and inevitably change its meaning, over and over again, whether we read or misread a text? The meaning of The Iliad changes from generation to generation and we can never know how it was received, interpreted or even intended (or if it even had one author or period of composition) in its "original" context(s).

Sure Fin, I agree. What I am trying to say is I don't like the idea of 20/20 hindsight editing on the part of a writer. Even if they completely disagree with what they wrote, it's out there. Done deal. Growth, evolution, learning, are part of the process, but move forward, rewrite, restate, continue the conversation but DO NOT disown your past. It's a cop out.

FinsburyParkCarrots

Traver DiDiminico wrote:

Sure Fin, I agree. What I am trying to say is I don't like the idea of 20/20 hindsight editing on the part of a writer. Even if they completely disagree with what they wrote, it's out there. Done deal. Growth, evolution, learning, are part of the process, but move forward, rewrite, restate, continue the conversation but DO NOT disown your past. It's a cop out.

Bottom line, though. Editing here. Yay or nay?

Traver DiDiminico

FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:

Bottom line, though. Editing here. Yay or nay?

Big YAY. Purely for practical reasons.

EvilToasterElf

FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:

Bottom line, though. Editing here. Yay or nay?

Yay, makes things easier

DopeBeastie

nay...

being stuck with what you put up is a good way to get better at paying attention to your original intention

of course, editing these things for yourself and/or your own publication is always your choice...

just because you can't edit here doesn't mean you can't edit at all!

this is, after all... a poetry page on a rock band's fan club

seriously.

so you look like a dufus for mispelling "misspelling"... big deal?

grooveamatic

PastaNazi wrote:

nay...

being stuck with what you put up is a good way to get better at paying attention to your original intention



so you look like a dufus for mispelling "misspelling"... big deal?

No one is gonna make someone edit if they have an artistic qualm with it...but shouldn't those of us who wish to, have the option?

olderman

i have read many good points and i hereby decree, as is my destiny, to be in favor of the edit.
let's not forget the credit,
that is to say,
the original is kept,
in a box for all to see,
the original verse will never go away..

can you do it sea and kat?

can you do it,
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can you do it,
can you do it,
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can you do it,
can you do i,,

can you (do the) COOL JERK?
C'MON PEOPLE ..

COOL JERK!