I'm sure Iago wasn't Everyman back in 1604

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  • FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Were there no backstabbers mentioned in 'The Iliad'?

    I've still not read it. I'e got a copy of Lattimore's translation with me here though.


    Um, let's think. There was straight out rivalry between Achilles and Agamemnon over a woman, but that's gone on since blokes had dicks. There was lots of sacrificing, eating, sleeping, Nestor ranting, then some fighting, and Hector getting killed, then the burial of Achilles's bumchum Patroclus, and a bit of sport.

    The Odyssey was all about disguise and lying, as Odysseus realises he has to be literally "no one" to outwit all manner of creatures en route to Ithaca, then pretend to be a beggar to get entry to his palace and outwit/slay Penelope's suitors. But there wasn't an Iago-type there, as far as I can think.
  • FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Have you read 'The Gospel of Judas'? Turns out Judas betrayed Jesus at Jesus' bidding, and was regarded by Jesus as his most favoured disciple.


    Yep, and you could bring all kinds of theological arguments into play, that he was facilitating mankind's salvation, etc.
  • FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    I can't even remember what sparked this thread off. I was ratarsed. I think I was reading some Marxist bollocks.
  • FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Oh, I haven't read "The Gospel of Judas", though.

    Right, that's me done on this topic. :D
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    I can't even remember what sparked this thread off. I was ratarsed. I think I was reading some Marxist bollocks.

    :D

    A man with a taste for all things literary reading Marxist bollocks? Better be careful old bean. That shit will blunt your imagination in no time at all.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Oh, I haven't read "The Gospel of Judas", though.

    It's pretty interesting stuff.
    In fact, all of the 'banned' Gospels are interesting, mainly because of the fact that they're largely opposed to what the Church would have us believe. The Gospel of Thomas is probably the main one to get yer teeth into, if you're so inclined.
  • gus stillsgus stills Posts: 366
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    Judas is the most unfairly lambasted character in history. Along with Pilate.



    Followed closely by Caliban and Bill Clinton.
  • FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Byrnzie wrote:
    :D

    A man with a taste for all things literary reading Marxist bollocks? Better be careful old bean. That shit will blunt your imagination in no time at all.


    Only if you agree with it. ;)
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