Ophelia's Nun

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  • Rainsplashed windowpane/ royalblue predawn/ pavement wetglazed/ birchtree sparrowweighted/ boughbrown windwaving/ gardenhedge diagonalbobbing/ telephonewire trapezeyanking/ Electropulsing morning/ Electropulsing morning now/ Electropulsing growing dawning/now and now and now and now/ electropulsing shooting green in blue/in blooming Junerose wetskin dripping/ open garden greening budding joy just joy just now with the red show in the sky and the bleed of gold and the end of the shower and the rising of stems and the reaching out of birches and love is all and it's all and it's all you'll ever be able really ever ever ever to feel oh feel it yes feel it oh feel it yes be it yes be. Yes. Be.
  • "The finest dinner I ever had
    was in a boarding house in South East London."

    "What did you have to eat then, Dad?"

    "Cats' pricks, shite, boiled leather, nails ... and... and... onions."
  • FancyFacadeFancyFacade Posts: 330
    i enjoyed your poetry--the last few ones--thanks--
  • A full city moon,
    and the stars, unborn babies,
    find tonight's lovers.
  • The dog who lived for history

    If you put a dog up on a high chair
    there'll come a point when he'll need to come down for a piss.
    And it's only fair to get a ladder up to him
    when the chair's higher than parliament,
    and try to coax him down with a retirement bone.
    But the dog in the chair now has his sights on the giant monkey
    a little bit to the right of the edge of the world
    who's telling him to keep sat
    and yelp down at his trained hounds
    and to tear apart some beaten up alleycat
    bad cat -
    but just a cat on the other side of the dogs
    and the signifying monkey -
    on the basis of a forged doggier
    sorry dossier
    that says he's planning on using his claws
    within forty five minutes of getting a mawling
    from the big mufukin dog poh-lice.
    But back yesterday
    when the inspecting greyhounds from head office went snooping
    the cat had no claws that they could see
    and yet the monkey said get the cat and get his cream
    we'll free the worms
    that cat has got claws
    he hadn't any to start with
    but I sold him some
    They're detachable, honest
    He says they came off in a fight
    But he hid them in some trashcan somewhere
    Fuck Officer Dibble
    here come the bloodhounds
    whoo hoo whoo hoo yessssssurrrreeee.
    Well, the alley's on fire and there were no claws
    and the worms are confusing the bloodhounds, so many, multiplying,
    wanting their soil back again
    instead of being run by a changeover from the dogs to some new cats
    who are only going to gobble them whole
    and the monkey's still waving his arms in the distance
    He's like King Kong except he stays up and the buildings fall down
    and he's waving at the dog
    Git up dog
    do it fuhh history
    Ah'll jis' stay here wid mah banana yis yis
    you command the show!
    Well the piss is starting to run down the ladder
    into the gutters
    into the streets
    into the alleys
    and when the chair comes down
    and people write about the dog
    who wanted a place in history
    all they'll see is sky and burning smoke
    and if they turn around
    amid the bones of cats and dogs
    there'll be worms
    lots of worms
    and the lingering stink of piss from the dog king
    in the shadow of monkey shitpile mountain.
  • My Dad Says

    "They'll cut yer bleedin' balls off if you keep
    Writin' about Bu$h like that, you know.
    They'll climb the drainpipe an' when you're asleep
    They'll get up in your room, then tippytoe
    they'll pull the sheets back, an' they'll cut yer tool
    clean off. I'm tellin 'ya. So shut yer gob.
    One day you'll want some dosh an' I KNOW! Who'll
    Be givin' yer the chance of some nice job
    When ye've been callin' their own president a chimp?
    He is a chimp. A fughin' a$$. But STILL
    Unless you DO like walkin' with a limp
    an' don't want children, ye're doin' well
    To get it chopped. So watch yer gob an' write
    about the spring, an' cut the protest shite."
  • And now the loved ones of fallen US soldiers -
    just young men, no more nor less -
    have to live the rest of their lives
    knowing that their darlings were slain today
    under order to suppress
    the very people they were sent away to free.
    Lyrical poetry gets difficult
    in the face of the unspeakable.
  • Another Bloody Sunday

    Another Bloody Sunday sees
    new orphans and new widows.
    The day that Najaf disagrees
    with forces in the shadows
    of Pentagon bureaucracy,
    who close newspapers down
    (which call for more democracy
    in their Iraqi town
    against the threat of empire),
    the ordered army push,
    Commanded by 'phone wire
    by pretzel-eating Bush.
    Both sides leave dead the young and strong
    Who fought for freedom's ring.
    Both sides now see their causes wrong
    and blood on everything.
    Think about Najaf, now, George,
    Next time you're at a dinner,
    Before you get that well-known urge
    To gloat, all-owning-winner:
    Those people whom you said to free
    because God loves to save
    are grieving for their dead today
    beside a new mass grave.
  • Bremner says "The people crossed the line;
    The demonstrators this time went too far."
    Something scratches in this mind of mine:
    Dyer's words, just after Amritsar.
  • Sleep is broken
    Houses are looted
    Forms are filled
    Trains are weighted
    Camps are built
    Stars forge flesh
    Heads get shaved

    Ovens burn
    Bodies pile

    Sleep is broken
    Houses are looted
    Forms are filled
    Planes are weighted
    Camps are built
    Love George Bush
    The East is saved

    Bridges burn
    Bodies pile
  • Poor-little-me

    He has his own customised bowl
    The gilded pate of a skull
    ripped from a man of the land
    whose calloused and broken hand
    is now owned by the company board
    whose profits per annum have soared.
    He has his own customised spoon
    That Daddy had given him when
    he pleased Mummy by learning to say
    "More candy for poor little me."
    He sits in his room with the bright
    neon lights blurring his sight
    of a city grown fat on the spoil
    of the labour of folk of the soil.
    And writes little poems that cry
    "There's nothing more urgent than my
    suffering, than of my pain."
    He sucks in his cheeks so to 'wane'.
    But Daddy will teach him to kill
    and soon he'll be happy to fill
    his bowl with the means of production
    by workers whose meaningless action
    has made them the dead and the null,
    with no time for philosophy's pull
    into privileged lounges of mind
    where hand-to mouth fear's left behind
    for singing of "poor-little-me
    and my soft cushioned hell and my play
    with escapist ideas of a field
    to which I like the peasant could wield
    my sickel and merrily sow
    a life in the sun as I go...."
  • Lokrian Aias is to blame,
    For plundering Kassandra in Athene's temple
    while the flames licked the jut of the bastion
    From which Astyanax was hurled.
    You'll never get your nostoi now, soldiers.
    Oh, Agamemnon will get back,
    But the seer says
    Klytemnaistra's got Aigisthos
    keeping the bed warm
    and the knives sharp for his return.
    So it's just games of backgammon for now,
    and counting either the campfires along the plain
    or the poking masts in the waters
    of vessels that chanced the Hellesport winds
    which in their fullthroated gurgling drown
    became the cries of boys for deaf mothers in Sparta.
    Lokrian Aias was impetuous in fire,
    toppling statues, letting the slaves burn the citadel
    once Helen was led in tears to Menelaos.
    Lokrian Aias is to blame.
  • That Saturday morning of Diana's funeral, I was on
    Dad's allotment, round by the back of the football stadium;
    pulling what he called Fat Hen, couchgrass and bindweed,
    from the furrows of his nine pol spud plot. Fat blue lazy
    flies headbutted my arms, hysterically, as I rooted out the tenacious
    choking growths by the roots from the soil. As I was freeing the crop,
    already I was musing my own conspiracy theories,
    in reckoning that this must have been what was happening in the Palace.
    It was hot, I was out, the noon sky was open and there were others,
    like me, working under the sun, redfaced, sweating and digging
    down in the turning earth with their forks pronging and throwing up
    baby potatoes, heirs free of the smother of weed perennials.
    We weren't escaping history here, though we weren't indoors
    watching the flag draped coffin and hearing "We love you" cries
    in the undignified electric near-silence of a relayed outside broadcast,
    through our television screens. Rather, we were enacting an allegory
    of the politics of court
    with the ruthless efficiency of an industry protecting its dynasty
    in September, before the weather's inevitable turn.
  • DopeBeastieDopeBeastie Posts: 2,513
    you are fountaining today, sir :)
  • Dear Sir

    I am delighted to make your acquaintance;
    your business attachee has given me assurance
    of your trusted support.

    I am Barrister Squiggleyquinker O' Radar-Dantooine;
    I represent the Most Excellent Highnesses
    the Royal Family of Maleftyboobu,
    exiled by a coup in their native State in 1974.
    They have lived in an undisclosed underground
    mountain water filtering system
    near the border with Yellatenashus
    ever since
    and have declared themselves bankrupt
    in order to preserve their wealth
    for a day of glorious return.

    I am writing to you today
    To entrust you with 38 suitcases
    containing their secret wealth
    to be deposited at a Swiss bank of our deciding
    a total of 800 million USD
    which we will hand over to you
    at an agreed time
    and
    at a specified public location.

    For a percentage
    which we will generously award you,
    plus freedom of the city of L____

    you must contact me at ________
    with a cheque for $999.99

    Thanking you for your time

    Yours faithfully



    Sound familiar to anyone?
  • We know in refracted glass light waves of memory
    We know in daytime cumulai shining weaves of starlight
    We know how our touch will feel
    For we have touched in spirit, heart and mind
    And walk together in quiet streets of Cambridge and Seattle
    when strangers think us blissfully alone
    oh
    I know your splendid gift,
    your jewel of heart,
    and under cassiopeian skies
    forever
    squiggly
    we kiss.

    It's because of the beauty of the woman I'm writing about that the words come. And they're simple words, simple ideas. You couldn't contrive complex feelings and images, running on and on, for expressions of love. Not true love. Love's very easy. It's not convoluted or to be chiselled out of the psyche as some monumental testament of altruism, often to the benefit only of appeasing one's ego. Remember when Lear asks Goneril and Regan to protest their love for their father and they produce these protracted speeches, "I love you dearer than space, eyesight"..."that which the smallest square of sense possesses".... Well, Cordelia's love is gentle, simple and true. She can't affect all these grandiose tropes and conceits. And my love for my love is beautiful and true, no more nor less.
    True love is far from ahistorical, apolitical, asocial, insular and in a vacuum: it TRANSCENDS the convolutions of life by working through them, unblocking their knots of fear and reticence and allowing freedom to share. It not an escape from the past but a channelling of one's life towards the freeflow of connection with another, and a celebration of that achieved objective: unrestrained, trusting oneness. True love is easy when the energy of love is channelled out to another and keeps flowing, keeps flowing, is reciprocated and trust is built.
    King Lear in Shakespeare's play of 1605 had three daughters, Goneril, Regan and Cordelia. An old man, vain and lacking in judgement, Lear decided to abdicate his power and divide his kingdom in three, and, in order to award good lands and chattels to his daughters, organised a love test: "Tell me, my daughters...which of you shall we say doth love us most?" Goneril and Regan came out with these complex expostulations and conceits on the nature of their love; Cordelia said she would say nothing in honour of her father. Lear, mistaking her refusal to cheapen her love by dulling it with complex speeches (ultimately only self- referential and aggrandising), banished Cordelia to France, and thus began his reversal of fortune. Cordelia and Regan took his lands between them and rendered him homeless, blinding his trusted Earl of Cornwall and throwing the country deeper into turmoil. Lear in the end realised, with his kingdom restored to him after wars that one way or another left all his daughters dead and his sanity shattered, that Cordelia's love was the truest for being the easiest and the least accommodating of other kinds of discourse. It was the realisation of true love's lack of complexity that restored him just before death to sanity and to the prospect of an all encompassing humanity.

    George Eliot in "Middlemarch" tries to convey how the web of affinities between people - true social concordance - will not permit convolutions of ego and individual past experience which impede the flow of vital energy: love must be utterly free from the tendency to convolute its path or rather turn back inwards, thinking itself a centre of illumination (in "knowing" the nature of love and society by seeing intricate correspondences between past and future, personal events) :

    An eminent philosopher among my friends, who can dignify even your ugly furniture by lifting it into the serene light of science, has shown me this pregnant little fact. Your pier-glass or extensive surface of polished steel made to be rubbed by a housemaid, will be minutely and multitudinously scratched in all directions; but place now against it a lighted candle as a centre of illumination, and lo! the scratches will seem to arrange themselves in a fine series of concentric circles round that little sun. It is demonstrable that the scratches are going everywhere impartially and it is only your candle which produces the flattering illusion of a concentric arrangement, its light falling with an exclusive optical selection. These things are a parable. The scratches are events, and the candle is the egoism of any person...

    And actually, squiggly love is the love of pragmatic idealists.Carnival polyphonies of happysquigglysilliness bring forth the freest laughs of deepest love. And you know what Brecht said, even miserable bastard Brecht: "Nothing needs less justification than pleasure."

    :D
  • FancyFacadeFancyFacade Posts: 330
    that last thing you put up is so true--
  • An habitual poet
    is like a window cleaner
    who, dreaming in his bed at night
    wakes up his wife by kicking the covers off
    and making climbing motions,
    up some invisible ladder,
    while flat on his back on his mattress.
    His wife nudges him awake,
    "Hey, where are you going in that dream?",
    and the window cleaner replies,
    "I was going to the shops."

    An habitual poet is like that,
    Always dreaming one can get from A to B
    Living vertically, lying on the horizontal.
  • exhaleexhale Posts: 185
    Originally posted by FinsburyParkCarrots
    An habitual poet
    is like a window cleaner
    who, dreaming in his bed at night
    wakes up his wife by kicking the covers off
    and making climbing motions,
    up some invisible ladder,
    while flat on his back on his mattress.
    His wife nudges him awake,
    "Hey, where are you going in that dream?",
    and the window cleaner replies,
    "I was going to the shops."

    An habitual poet is like that,
    Always dreaming one can get from A to B
    Living vertically, lying on the horizontal.


    do you want to be a habitual poet, or rather a poet of the moment?
    Write. Wind each new thought upon the stream;
    and in its contradiction of response,
    Or seeming stagnance, see that rippled gleam
    That might suggest true movement. If you sense
    a hidden wave in what seems blanket still,
    Write more, wind each desire, and you'll see
    The willows nod and rustle, and you will
    hear the rushing babble of the free
    gush of water, brimming, charged with light
    That is your reader's understanding heart.
  • I want to play Doctors and Nurses with nature. :D
  • Orange is the brightest colour, mixing
    carrots fresh from the wild mind, mixing
    Mashed potatos and desire, stirring
    Broccolli shoots with pepper rain.
    Merlot kept us warm, covering
    Nights in forgetful glows, feeding
    A lot of life to the Pearl Jam message pit....
  • If anybody asks you where I'm gone
    That they don't see me quite as much these days
    Just say a woman dancing in the sun
    Makes my loose words and finger tapestries

    And I'm just wishing for a merchant ivory smile
    I'm just living for a merchant ivory smile

    She paints a Turkish king and spider queen
    She paints a palace bird that flies outside
    She paints a night of sleepy bottle green
    She paints a dance of angels in the shade

    And I'm here dreaming of a merchant ivory smile
    I'm here learning from a merchant ivory smile

    (Covespool waters web me
    Lead me to her call
    If I had ten beginnings
    I'd choose this one from all.....)

    She's like someone who lived here long ago
    She's like someone you'd think had never been
    She lets me count the colours I've to know
    She lets me see the magic that she's seen

    She's like the film star
    with the merchant ivory smile
    She's like the film star
    with the merchant ivory smile
    I'm just wishing
    for a merchant ivory smile
    I'm here living
    for a merchant ivory smile
  • Kaspar sowed his name in seed
    in his patch of garden,
    and in time the signature grew, green
    Between the cabbage and onion drills.

    He would inspect his name every day,
    Watching it grow there, watering his little self
    and remembering those years in darkness, as
    the foundling locked in the cellar.

    One morning he went to the garden
    and saw someone had trampled upon his name,
    Breaking the loops and flourishes
    and grinding the tall characters into the soil.

    Kaspar cried until sunset,
    but said he would sow his name again.
    The trampler came back in the dark
    and killed him as he dreamed in hope.
  • I watched her, alone by the Kilbunny Graves
    Her face between fuschia, in noon's wind ablaze.
    I wondered, when, weary, she knelt down to sleep
    At the head of a stone she had brought from the sea.

    And deeply she mourned as her tears fell to ground
    So softly she cried that her grief had no sound
    Till she looked in my eyes and said unto me:
    "We'll sleep soon, my love, 'neath the dead soldier's tree".

    And, wandering on through the old Coolfin road
    She looked in my eyes for a trace of her soul.
    She rested herself at the tree and we lay
    Until the last light of the dusk fell away,
    Till the light of the dusk fell away.
  • "Hey, Man, check my prayer mat out", Tom moaned,
    pointing to an orange spiral weave
    nailed up on his wall. "Man, that was owned
    By one cool guy like you would not believe",
    This hippy drawled, crosslegged on the floor
    Though there were three good comfy chairs about.
    "I was in the Outback, hiking. More
    than three days walking, man, without
    food, just water. Then this well cool dude,
    A tribesman dude with dreads came up to me
    there, in the desert. He said 'You need food?
    I've not got food but what I have for thee '-
    yeah man, like he said 'thee' - 'is this good charm,
    This prayer mat that I've carried all my life.
    It blesses you and keeps you free from harm.
    It's yours, my friend, for ten bucks ninety five,
    and you'll find your oasis before dawn, yaaa.'
    I gave the dude the money, and like wow,
    I found this burger bar just round the corner!
    So, like, that prayer mat's special to me now.
    It might have been the dude's great grandad, in
    spirit form, protecting me from badshit,
    or like the spirit of some King who's been
    leader of this tribe, now in my bedsit,
    on my wall. The dude's name, I've forgotten ...
    It'd blow my mind if that got stolen."

    I spied the map up close. Right at the bottom,
    A label (faint but clear) read "Made in Poland".
  • The wisest of philosophers
    speaks prose as clear as gin.
    But that guy who is the Boss of us
    Talks mudballs through his grin.
  • Strange attractors, cyclone vistas,
    Mandelbrot-curving new births in the death of a star
    Make bright refractors, lightpulse trysters
    Which spin out a dervish seducing the dark of afar

    A bell and a curl, an hourglass eye
    The wave of a sonic whirl, sticking
    so
    viscous
    in light and sound
    I
    can
    feel
    now

    Strange attractors, Kochcurve twisters
    Endless beginnings of ends linking heaven into one
    Galactic reactors, roll the seven sisters
    Goldenblue mythos of jewels fusing all into one
    round into one
    spiral into one
    spiral into one
    spiral into one
  • A surge, a curl, a balleen laugh
    massing dorsal plains, fins adance:
    the foragers
    turn in surf.
    Ocean forests breathe
    between the grooves of twenty throats
    and
    whitened viscous curves
    eternally splay,
    endless in sunlight,
    burbling vistas of foam.
    Then, gyrating masses splash back
    tendril orbits of reed
    and giddy jellyfish,
    sending each spinning, current-bound
    from under whipping flukes.
    Together they forage, these dancers,
    by social instinct.
    Together, they are tasking this sharing of krill.
  • Down where windheaving bogrush grows,
    Siltsabled rivulets incline
    Loveled to where the ocean knows:
    No joys repine.

    And in the greening breakers where
    the currents rise beyond Dooagh
    an echoed shadowed light lives there:
    Andromeda!
  • Originally posted by FinsburyParkCarrots
    Down where windheaving bogrush grows,
    Siltsabled rivulets incline
    Loveled to where the ocean knows:
    No joys repine.

    And in the greening breakers where
    the currents rise beyond Dooagh
    an echoed shadowed light lives there:
    Andromeda!

    I love the meter variations there. I'm in the process of learning my poetry terms, but it seems you go like this:

    A 8
    B 8
    A 8
    B 4

    Just for my own education, that would make the first three lines tetrameter, followed by a 4th 'quad'rameter. Plus, the stanzas are organized in a quatrain, which my packet says is the most common stanza form in English.

    Realizing this information, how do you decide what effect you would like to make on the reader, by making use of various poetic devices?

    The 4th line of the last stanza is happy and interesting, which seems to be because of its 4 beat phrase, and also because it is one word that flows easily.

    Though poetry is more than poetic devices, the message doesn't come across as strongly unless the proper devices aren't present, and I'd love to be able to get my message across more strongly.

    p.s. I do believe this is the 600th post on this thread. :)
    Liberal Douchebags that Blame Bush for Everything are Useless Pieces of Trash. I Shit on You.
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