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  • DopeBeastie
    DopeBeastie Posts: 2,513
    no, gosh...
    don't think that
    you write well, fins
  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    PastaNazi wrote:

    i kinda feel like this is "let him who hath knowledge know the number of the beast is 6 6 6", you know? cryptic and afraid of getting busted.

    Well, Stephen Spender wrote a lot of Marxist poetry in the 1930s and he aimed at overt political poetry, but it sometimes reads often like propaganda of the time. WH Auden on the other hand wrote urgent poetry warning Little Britain from its island complacency as European fascism reared its ugly head. But Auden used tropes, metaphors and some quite classical forms or conceits to get his point across in a way that elevates his work above mere historical interest. He's much less dense and convoluted than a symbolist such as Yeats, but there's enough "art" in his work to distance it from simple rhetoric.

    Ithink sometimes writers have made greater sacrifices not by defending an overt political stance but by defending their art and artfulness.

    Fore example, click here.
  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    That last post of mine was what edit buttons were invented for.
  • DopeBeastie
    DopeBeastie Posts: 2,513
    is that what you're doing here?
    choosing artfulness over heartfeltness?
    or is the artfull heartfelt, in and of itself and the reason you wrote to be artful, rather than to convey a given truth?

    or is it some mixture of the both, as well?
  • DopeBeastie
    DopeBeastie Posts: 2,513
    lol... yes...

    watch that grammar duck out the backdoor of pasta's head, too


    ain't it grand?
  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    The grammar was fine. it was the typing. I said I was a bad poet, I didn't say I wasn't a master linguist. :D
  • DopeBeastie
    DopeBeastie Posts: 2,513
    of course, of course....



    nice thought fodder, here


    but now, i gots to get to werk


    Rachel
  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    PastaNazi wrote:
    is that what you're doing here?
    choosing artfulness over heartfeltness?
    or is the artfull heartfelt, in and of itself and the reason you wrote to be artful, rather than to convey a given truth?

    or is it some mixture of the both, as well?

    I think people write in experimental forms often to challenge given truths, and to interrogate received ways of seeing. I think there's plenty of heart in that breaking down of realist discourse and in the use of poetic effects that, in their rhythm, cadence, assonance and use of non-realist ambiguity breakdown the strictures of perception and run dream visions into political observation. In fact I'd say there was more heart involved in abstracting discourse.
  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Now I'll get on with my work too. And I don't want to see this thread on the first page of this forum when I return. I want to see lots of poetry from everyone else. ;)
  • DopeBeastie
    DopeBeastie Posts: 2,513
    one more thing....

    (and yes, sometimes there is more heart in the abstract. sometimes not.)


    you be the linguist
    i'll be linguini


    :)


    ciao

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