Did Pearl Jam Sell Out in 2006

woundedorgan

Just listen to this lovely tune by Tool and sing along

I met a boy wearing vans, 501s, and a
Dope beastie t, nipple rings, and
New tattoos that claimed that he
Was ogt,
From 92,
The first ep.

And in between
Sips of coke
He told me that
He thought
We were sellin out,
Layin down,
Suckin up
To the man.

Well now Ive got some
A-dvice for you, little buddy.
Before you point the finger
You should know that
Im the man,

And if Im the man,
Then youre the man, and
Hes the man as well so you can
Point that fuckin finger up your ass.

All you know about me is what Ive sold you,
Dumb fuck.
I sold out long before you ever heard my name.

I sold my soul to make a record,
Dip shit,
And you bought one.

So Ive got some
Advice for you, little buddy.
Before you point your finger
You should know that
Im the man,
If Im the fuckin man
Then youre the fuckin man as well
So you can
Point that fuckin finger up your ass.

All you know about me is what Ive sold you,
Dumb fuck.
I sold out long before you ever heard my name.

I sold my soul to make a record,
Dip shit,
And you bought one.

All you read and
Wear or see and
Hear on tv
Is a product
Begging for your
Fatass dirty
Dollar

So...shut up and

Buy my new record
Send more money
Fuck you, buddy.

Gustopholies

It was the move into premium travel packages that concerned me most.

Dedvw

Even if they did/do, I still love just about everything they touch.

LiteTheMatch

Can someone tell me which video of theirs was directed by a director from Brazil??

UpSideDown

* Loads of press for 'Pearl Jam'
--> Nothing wrong with being proud of the new album

* VH1 Storytellers
--> An attempt to actually get music on VH1 ......what's wrong with that? I wasn't exactly a glorified performance, it was pretty laid back.

* Music Videos
--> Life wasted, which wasn't your run of the mill music video.

* A commercial, shiny sounding album, full of attempted anthemic rock music that we haven't really heard since Ten
--> Disagree, there really isn't any anthem songs on there and I don't think they even tried to make one. It was just a straight forward rock album.

* Appearing with U2 on the same stage
--> Not that big of a deal......wasn't it for charity even?

DrHeidi41

Even if they did sell out (which I don't think they did or would do), they'd still have a shitload more integrity than 99% of artists out there.

Surf Rider

Army & Navy wrote:

Did Pearl Jam Sell Out in 2006

I mean consider the following:

* Loads of press for 'Pearl Jam'

* VH1 Storytellers

* Music Videos

* A commercial, shiny sounding album, full of attempted anthemic rock music that we haven't really heard since Ten

* Appearing with U2 on the same stage

1. They hardly had loads of press, more than the last couple albums yes, but nowhere near LOADS.

2. On Storytellers they performed Sleight Of Hand, Insignificance, Unemployable, Gone, & Army Reserve when they could have performed Black, Evenflow, Yellow Ledbetter and Jeremy. Even the cover they performed was Here's to The State of Mississippi when they could have done Last Kiss. So think about that for a second or two.

3. The video for Life Wasted was an artsy video made by an artist not a video director. Far from a commercial video. The WWS video isn't even really a true video either.

4. Ed is friends with Bono and likes them, this is nothing new. Pearl Jam has opened for them in the past as well. The Poverty History thing was for poverty dude, COME ON.

5. Self Titled was a pretty damn awesome album. The gloss you speak of is all the producer. I think the album was done just right, other than the edited Mike solo on Life Wasted.


So the verdict is in:

Get your head out of your asshole.

norm

PJAMEDVED wrote:

So the verdict is in:

Get your head out of your asshole.

that all that pretty much needs to be said

opsopcopolis

PJAMEDVED wrote:

1. They hardly had loads of press, more than the last couple albums yes, but nowhere near LOADS.

2. On Storytellers they performed Sleight Of Hand, Insignificance, Unemployable, Gone, & Army Reserve when they could have performed Black, Evenflow, Yellow Ledbetter and Jeremy. Even the cover they performed was Here's to The State of Mississippi when they could have done Last Kiss. So think about that for a second or two.

3. The video for Life Wasted was an artsy video made by an artist not a video director. Far from a commercial video. The WWS video isn't even really a true video either.

4. Ed is friends with Bono and likes them, this is nothing new. Pearl Jam has opened for them in the past as well. The Poverty History thing was for poverty dude, COME ON.

5. Self Titled was a pretty damn awesome album. The gloss you speak of is all the producer. I think the album was done just right, other than the edited Mike solo on Life Wasted.


So the verdict is in:

Get your head out of your asshole.

^^Yup
who cares, what does sell out even mean? Explain to me how you've heard of a band that plays in arenas that does "sell out", I mean come on man, shut up.

Come Back in Black

Technically they sold out when they signed their first record contract in 1990. You are 18 years too late. They are a famous rock band. Get over it.

Left Porch

I consider selling out to be doing shameless things just to sell a few extra records. I didn;t see PJ on TRL, or colloborating with Timbaland, I didn't see them on TMZ hanging with people from The Hills. Stone Gossard didn't walk into any public bathrooms with no shoes. Hopefully a few people who were tired of shitty music saw some of the commercials or watched Storytellers and went out and bought a good rock album. I wasn;t a huge fan of "Avocado" but it's better than most of the mainstream garbage that's been released over recent years.

Mike Gossard

Do they have corporate sponsors giving away there new album, like verizon?

Are they in a milk ad?

Do they have a brand new song on a TV commercial for mens razors or some other shit??

The only thing Pearl Jam sells out of is tickets, as said in earlier posts.

Duder5k

I get sick of this annoying punk ethic of being anti-mainstream. Some bands, like KMFDM, do it without being assholes about it. But it seems most bands with this attitude are doing it just for the "cred" and not because it's their personal belief.

I used to actually think like that - "zomg if it's a song made for the radio, it must suck immediately!". Pfft. Once you stop thinking like that and actually open your mind, you can discover some amazing bands. Pop doesn't automatically = crap. There's good pop, and there's bad pop.

As for the topic, no, Pearl Jam didn't sell out. Do you see then posing for Verizon Wireless ads and performing with the Pussycat Dolls? :P

Strangest Tribe

they could be much bigger than they are ...that being said, they also need to make a living

pc_loadletter

Army & Navy wrote:

I mean consider the following:

* Loads of press for 'Pearl Jam'

* VH1 Storytellers

* Music Videos

* A commercial, shiny sounding album, full of attempted anthemic rock music that we haven't really heard since Ten

* Appearing with U2 on the same stage

-Yield got just as much press with them releasing svt and a video for evolution

-Storytellers? They performed an intimate show with a bunch of fans answering their questions.

- The music videos they released were never aired on Much Music or Much More Music here in Canada (unless they were and I never saw them). I'm not sure how much air time they got in the USA or other countries

-The day I consider Gone/Unemployable/Parachutes/Big Wave "attempted anthemic rock" will be the day I enjoy listening to Riot Act.

-Since when is performing with a band that you respect selling out? Did they sell out when they opened for The Rolling Stones a few years back?

Are you just trying to get a rise out of us all?

AndySlash

Sell out? No. And certainly not by today's standards.

But they definitely started to market themselves more than they had in a long, long time. 06 was the beginning of this. If you think about it, it tied in with the album- they intimated that they titled the album Pearl Jam in part because it was a new beginning for them. We saw some of that change in the promotion of the album and tour that year. Someone else mentioned the travel packages introduced in 2007. There was the Verizon thing this tour. Now you have the solo stuff going on and you're seeing some of that bleed over, what with Eddie/Stone selling individual tracks. Really, the Tenclub site is more "commercial" than it ever has been (though that may just be a case of 10C finally catching up with the capabilities of the internets as a viable sales medium).

It *is* a new era in Pearl Jam. I don't think this is deniable. But I certainly don't think they've "sold out". However, 10 years from now, if they strike a deal to have Walmart sell their new record exclusively, I think we'll be able to look back at these last couple years and say that this is when they started down that path.

Thoughts_Arrive

I remember when they were promoting Riot Act, and the song ''I am mine'' back when it was released. Big woop.

gozzo5058

no, not at all...

Rhinocerous Surprise

Duder5k wrote:

I get sick of this annoying punk ethic of being anti-mainstream. Some bands, like KMFDM, do it without being assholes about it. But it seems most bands with this attitude are doing it just for the "cred" and not because it's their personal belief.

I used to actually think like that - "zomg if it's a song made for the radio, it must suck immediately!". Pfft. Once you stop thinking like that and actually open your mind, you can discover some amazing bands. Pop doesn't automatically = crap. There's good pop, and there's bad pop.

As for the topic, no, Pearl Jam didn't sell out. Do you see then posing for Verizon Wireless ads and performing with the Pussycat Dolls? :P

I think that might be the first time I've seen KMFDM mentioned on this board. Nice.

12345AGNST1

Mike Gossard wrote:

Do they have corporate sponsors giving away there new album, like verizon?

Close, their last tour was somewhat sponsored by Verizon.

Theyre still not a sellout.