The Young People With Their Instant Children

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  • ISN
    ISN Posts: 1,700
    groovematic....I commend you on your fictionalized version of otherness.....but I can tell you madness is a lot worse than this.....
    Scores of us populate the world;
    So many of us, in fact,
    There are houses and magazines
    Set aside for us,
    Whole towns of us.

    There is the defective
    Who cannot swallow one caplet
    Of Tylenol with Codeine
    Without being lost to the world
    For months;
    A domino effect of staggering size
    Being tipped and running it's course
    Through woozy alleyways,
    Poorly-lit basements,
    The naked paying arms of strangers,
    Ending at last
    In any number of sanctioned
    Sanitary humorless barricades,
    To be taught how to not start it
    All over again
    When left alone.

    There is the defective
    Who cannot be trusted to eat a steak:
    The glinty cerration of the inevitable
    Knife to them a siren's call,
    Promising moments of actual emotion,
    Something truly felt.
    And when all the dinner guests
    Have left, to the hall closet
    They'll retire,
    Blade and bandages at the ready
    To pierce and puncture in a wholly
    Sloppy yet methodical manner,
    Taking pause to ensure
    It is nothing a long-sleeved shirt won't hide;
    And again and again over years,
    Drawing maps of mended sensation.

    There is the defective
    Who cannot rent certain kinds of films;
    Movies in which folks disrobe and exchange
    Closely personal things, heaving
    And gasping as though in shock.
    Upon viewing these images
    The defective person would be set upon
    By a precise personal demon
    Which will force them to force themselves
    Upon any number of strangers
    In a rippling series of carnal escapades,
    Finding closure perhaps
    Within a cold set of handcuffs
    Or the sights of a perturbed father's shotgun,
    Never quite reaching that hightened plateau
    That the films so clearly showed as possible.

    There is the defective
    Who cannot imbibe a drop of the wrong
    Cough-syrup lest they be thrown
    Into the oubliette of self-pity and rage,
    Seeking out and certainly finding
    Syrups suited to illness beyond coughing,
    This journey taking them through the simplest
    Daytime restuarant to the scourges of the night,
    Anything with running liquid,
    Money fleeing pockets faster than they can swallow.
    They'll dream about it,
    About running from it and into it,
    Until substantial reality fades to be replaced
    By a hyper-subreality of smoke-filled places,
    Sweat issuing the odors of brand-names,
    Their insides churning the pain of death.

    Scores of us populate the world;
    So many of us, in fact,
    That we are quite everywhere.
    We are not to be pitied or feared,
    Merely expected.

    I hope you never experience what it is like to be 'different'.....but until you do....I like your peom.....
    ....they're asking me to prove why I should be allowed to stay with my baby in Australia, because I'm mentally ill......and they think I should leave......
  • ISN wrote:
    groovematic....I commend you on your fictionalized version of otherness.....but I can tell you madness is a lot worse than this.....



    I hope you never experience what it is like to be 'different'.....but until you do....I like your peom.....


    perhaps your madness is unlike the one portrayed here, ISN, but I can assure you many do experience madness quite like it. I know I have. The fourth big stanza--the stanza of the alcoholic--is of my experience. The others have been experienced by many close to me. Read my "The Merits of Life" for a bigger picture. Thanks for the kind words also!
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  • When I see the young people
    With their instant children
    So happy they nearly cease to exist,

    brilliant poem what beautiful imagery

    i wondered if it might also be a reference to how comfortable life has become for so many of us in western society. so much so that many people go without experiencing real life, but on the same thread believe that they are. there is so much going on in the world, a lot of it bad, but this whole idea about protecting ourselves and others around us is preventing us from having real experiences.

    just a thought, but one that is quite prominant in my mind at the moment as i too am living this comfportable life and womndering what is outside this western middleclass planet.

    love sam
    'Be nice to one another'
    'everyones new years resolution should be to comment positively on things that they see as worthy of comment. practice now and by new year we will be great at it!'
  • (o:sam:o) wrote:
    brilliant poem what beautiful imagery

    i wondered if it might also be a reference to how comfortable life has become for so many of us in western society. so much so that many people go without experiencing real life, but on the same thread believe that they are. there is so much going on in the world, a lot of it bad, but this whole idea about protecting ourselves and others around us is preventing us from having real experiences.

    just a thought, but one that is quite prominant in my mind at the moment as i too am living this comfportable life and womndering what is outside this western middleclass planet.

    love sam

    some really interesting thoughts, Sam. Truthfully, I had never thought of the poem in those terms before; now that you've brought it up, I don't see any way around it. That most certainly is an element of the poem, even if it wasn't in my mind when writing it. Thank you.
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  • 5 molars, 2 incisors, 1 canine

    scattered seemingly random
    through the rain glazed gutter


    blood, liberally Rorschacked


    screaming

    sometimes, when you glide
    thru life,
    the fat hand of Chance

    reaches down

    to knock the shit out of you.
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  • grooveamatic
    grooveamatic Posts: 1,374
    The dog runs away when I come near,
    Like it always has.
    Off to the garage somewhere,
    Or to nose around in the garden,
    Maybe.
    The skinny gray cat, however,
    Allows me to stroke him.
    I like the cat, with his rough,
    Sandpaper coat and vibrating
    Contentment.
    The cat meets my gaze with honesty,
    Commiserating over the heat,
    The long days
    And the loud cars
    Which are ceaseless.

    The house towers above us,
    Is taller than even our cars.
    It is lit up like a ballroom,
    And tonight it promises
    To keep all wild things out,
    Like it always has.
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  • The large oil tanks
    By the side of the road
    Mean that we
    Are close
    To grandmaw's house.
    Once we leave
    Grandmaw's house
    The large oil tanks
    By the other side
    Of the road
    Mean that we
    Are close
    To home.

    THe simplicity of this one blows me away every time I read it, groovy.
  • 5 molars, 2 incisors, 1 canine

    scattered seemingly random
    through the rain glazed gutter


    blood, liberally Rorschacked


    screaming

    sometimes, when you glide
    thru life,
    the fat hand of Chance

    reaches down

    to knock the shit out of you.

    wow...this is unlike anything I've ever read.
    i can still bite my toenails.
  • grooveamatic
    grooveamatic Posts: 1,374
    THe simplicity of this one blows me away every time I read it, groovy.

    thanks so much, shiftless. i was going for a simplicity that became more complicated after you read it--i hope that's what hapened.
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  • grooveamatic
    grooveamatic Posts: 1,374
    Richard Simmons is a terrible man.
    He seems to be more happy than
    A sleeping, lazy, noiseless cat
    Which doesn't mind being fat.
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  • When I read it I took it from the perspective of an older person who has been trying for years to have a child, looking at young people...teenage or otherwise...who get pregnant so easily...and not caring or even thinking about the young people's possible uphill battle...to the narrator they *must* be content...but the narrator is clouded with his/her own frustration.

    Just another perspective.

    Probably wrong. ;)

    wow.......that is such an interesting slant to it. grooove - i appreciated the *anger* in it - if that makes any sense.....even if i myself don't identify/agree with it. well done.
    i'll ride the wave where it takes me
  • grooveamatic
    grooveamatic Posts: 1,374
    Rising from my bench, pretending to stretch,
    Glancing around, this thinly veiled caveman excercise
    I practice with pastiche, cunning,
    Undoing a button as though only to let my fat breathe,
    Instead bringing fully to light the tip of my plumbing,
    Smartly quieting nature's alarm clock.
    It trickles slowly, among leaves and needles,
    Rivulets finding a new path once expelled.
    One always wonders just where it goes:
    Into the air with the heat, or the cool ground with the roots?
    How much of me is in this thunderstorm,
    Or that Dogwood's branches?
    Will they come to chop me down, long after I die?
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  • grooveamatic
    grooveamatic Posts: 1,374
    for R.G.


    It's his old house--
    He lived in it
    For a few years,
    Just him and his mother--
    That I drive past every day
    On my way to work
    That crawls into my flesh
    And won't leave go.
    I knew him while he lived there,
    Although not as well
    As I know him now,
    But I drove him home
    A handful of times,
    Drove around that circular driveway
    And left him by the enclosed front porch
    Searching for keys
    In the dark.
    It seemed a nice enough place--
    Perhaps a bit run-down,
    In need of a few repairs,
    But never destitute--
    With a liberal sprinkling
    Of shade-bearing trees
    And inevitable critter-housing shrubs
    That, as a boy,
    I'm sure he loved to play around,
    Imagining all kinds
    Of bizarre world-changing events
    Taking place to and because of him,
    Right there in that shady lawn.
    And inside
    On windblown evenings,
    Hot mother-cooked meals,
    The smells of which one can never forget,
    The textures and spices
    Or maternal food and the kitchen
    Where love made it
    Shining through to his adult world
    Always, especially when he couldn't
    Fully remember it.
    And then,
    A short time after I came to know him
    They simply moved,
    Although I'm certain it was quite involved
    For his mother and him,
    To us--his friends--
    It seemed they had just
    Transplanted,
    Picked all worldly things up
    And trotted off to another home
    In a nearby trailer park.
    It wasn't so bad:
    We still saw him just as much,
    And it wasn't any further away.
    Strangely, though,
    The next people to take residence
    In his old home
    Were acquaintances of ours:
    Party friends who approved of us
    And liked to do
    The kind of things
    That we liked to do.
    And so it was
    A short time indeed
    For my friend
    Until he returned to the home of his childhood,
    A very short time until he stood again in his old bedroom
    (now belonging to a rancid acquaintance
    with a poor moustache and stained skin
    who had his bed in the exact wrong place).
    The bathroom that had been
    Ruthlessly spotless before
    Now a colony for any live,
    Microscopic entity that felt like moving in,
    The sink now a brown problem
    Instead of a pearly white altar,
    The toilet barely flushing,
    And the light bulb refusing to be changed
    So one was forced to pee in the dark.
    The kitchen now not that of the mother
    But of unkempt communal
    Post-adolescent living,
    Issuing not aromas
    Of hearty, oft-prepared
    Casseroles and soups
    But the microwaved plastic
    And congealing trash
    That comes with being awake all night
    Or not knowing where your money is.
    And no one eating their vegetables
    Or drinking their juice,
    But ingesting all varieties of terrible things,
    From three-day-old chicken
    To high grade opium
    Which any mother
    In her right frame of mind
    Would surely disapprove of.
    This is not to suggest
    That we had anything other
    Than a marvelous time there--
    my friend included--
    And after a few hesitant moments
    Everyone seemed to forget
    That he had ever lived there at all,
    That it had ever been anything other
    Than what it was now,
    Or that it could ever be anything else.
    Soon enough,
    The acquaintance with the questionable moustache
    And stained skin was arrested,
    Followed quickly by all the others moving out,
    And the house was out of our hands,
    Forever to be becoming something new
    For someone new.
    But it still crawls into my flesh
    And won't leave go
    When I drive past it
    On my way to work;
    The way it stubbornly denies
    That any time has passed for anyone,
    The way it cages past
    Like a commodity.
    I imagine what my friend must have felt like,
    Doing what we were doing
    In that place;
    Perhaps he was searching
    For some sign that what he had once known to be true
    Could always remain true,
    That what had happened in his childhood
    Somehow remained in that house,
    Only to find that the more you examine
    Things you have already done,
    The less those things tend to acknowledge you,
    And if you allow yourself to
    You can end up in the center
    Of a room that doesn't care about you,
    Wishing for portals to your former self,
    The loosing of clocks.
    The less those
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  • grooveamatic
    grooveamatic Posts: 1,374
    ok, so there's an extraneous line at the end of the version I just posted. here's the real end of the poem:

    And the house was out of our hands,
    Forever to be becoming something new
    For someone new.
    But it still crawls into my flesh
    And won't leave go
    When I drive past it
    On my way to work;
    The way it stubbornly denies
    That any time has passed for anyone,
    The way it cages past
    Like a commodity.
    I imagine what my friend must have felt like,
    Doing what we were doing
    In that place;
    Perhaps he was searching
    For some sign that what he had once known to be true
    Could always remain true,
    That what had happened in his childhood
    Somehow remained in that house,
    Only to find that the more you examine
    Things you have already done,
    The less those things tend to acknowledge you,
    And if you allow yourself to
    You can end up in the center
    Of a room that doesn't care about you,
    Wishing for portals to your former self,
    The loosing of clocks.
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  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    You could divide this into sections and explore it still deeper and you'd have the makings of a significant longer poem. Try it. ;)
  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Rising from my bench, pretending to stretch,
    Glancing around, this thinly veiled caveman excercise
    I practice with pastiche, cunning,
    Undoing a button as though only to let my fat breathe,
    Instead bringing fully to light the tip of my plumbing,
    Smartly quieting nature's alarm clock.
    It trickles slowly, among leaves and needles,
    Rivulets finding a new path once expelled.
    One always wonders just where it goes:
    Into the air with the heat, or the cool ground with the roots?
    How much of me is in this thunderstorm,
    Or that Dogwood's branches?
    Will they come to chop me down, long after I die?

    Again, I hear Larkin but this is great. I like the repetitive use of present participles and the strange significance of the description of rivulets of piss finding a new path once expelled.

    Mighty work.
  • grooveamatic
    grooveamatic Posts: 1,374
    You could divide this into sections and explore it still deeper and you'd have the makings of a significant longer poem. Try it. ;)

    I like the idea quite bit. I'll give it a whirl and re-post it at a later time.

    Thanks for the idea. :)
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  • grooveamatic
    grooveamatic Posts: 1,374
    With fond wishes and intentions well
    We parted on that sidewalk,
    In front of the white house
    With the L-shaped porch.
    You essenced a smile, bless your heart.
    I turned the ignition,
    And wept until I forgot why.
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  • Ali
    Ali Posts: 2,621
    I LIKE THAT alot....
    thats the story of my life.
    A whisper and a thrill
    A whisper and a chill
    adv2005

    "Why do I bother?"
    The 11th Commandment.
    "Whatever"

    PETITION TO STOP THE BAN OF SMOKING IN BARS IN THE UNITED STATES....Anyone?
  • grooveamatic
    grooveamatic Posts: 1,374
    Ali wrote:
    I LIKE THAT alot....
    thats the story of my life.

    and as unpleasant as it can be...feeling things deeply and completely...it lets you know you're alive...
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