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The little gems to be found within the songs

StinkfootStinkfoot Posts: 546
edited 2009 03 in The Porch
I was listening to Monkeywrench radio last night and it occurred to me that (in my opinion) the mid-8 section of 'Pilate' ("Stunned by my own reflection....") is quite possibly the best mid-8 of their catalogue, even though it's certainly not their best song.

...and then I got to thinking that we always discuss songs as a 'whole' entity rather than the sum of their parts and it would be nice to get everyones opinions on their own little favourite 'parts' of (what some might consider lesser?) songs.


If you know what I mean? :p

...another of mine would be Jeff's bass part in foxymop...
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  • ChazzChazz Posts: 1,141
    Push Me Pull me - not the best song ever but I love the last verse -

    Like a cloud dropping rain
    I'm discarding all thought
    I'll dry up, leaving puddles on the ground
    I'm like an opening band for the sun

    And I totolly agree about Pilate - love that part :)

    Also love the drum part of MITS just before Ed comes back in with "I feel a sickness......"

    Actually there are loads, PJ songs are full of little gems....too many to think of off the top of my head
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  • Brain Of EBrain Of E Posts: 499
    I always like Jeff's bass doodle in No Way, it's an awesome song through out, but that part just stands out for me.
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  • Gonzo1977Gonzo1977 Posts: 1,696
    I've been learning "In my Tree" on guitar lately and although I've loved this song for years, It's only recently that I've picked up the little things that make this song so great.

    I just love the start of the 2nd verse "Wave to all my Friends"....is just so fun to sing and play guitar to...I could just play that one part for hours and hours.

    Also...
    Stone's riff during the bridge is such a cool fun chord progression.


    I also love "Fatal"

    Any one ever notice that this song never repeats itself or follows traditional song structure? it just builds with the 3 riffs each higher than the last...so cool...never noticed till I learned it on guitar
  • JulienJulien Posts: 2,457
    Brain Of E wrote:
    I always like Jeff's bass doodle in No Way, it's an awesome song through out, but that part just stands out for me.
    i'm with you...

    I love the last seconds of tremor christ. I love all the song (one of my fav) but the last lines are so good...
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  • SENROCKSENROCK Posts: 10,736
    Stinkfoot wrote:
    I was listening to Monkeywrench radio last night and it occurred to me that (in my opinion) the mid-8 section of 'Pilate' ("Stunned by my own reflection....") is quite possibly the best mid-8 of their catalogue, even though it's certainly not their best song.

    ...and then I got to thinking that we always discuss songs as a 'whole' entity rather than the sum of their parts and it would be nice to get everyones opinions on their own little favourite 'parts' of (what some might consider lesser?) songs.


    If you know what I mean? :p

    ...another of mine would be Jeff's bass part in foxymop...
    my big brother! :)
    I have said it previously but will say it again....i REALLY love the part at the beginning of EVENFLOW when Jeff slides the bass right before the lyrics begin! :D
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  • JulienJulien Posts: 2,457
    jeff's solo in present tense.
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  • Rhinocerous SurpriseRhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    I say this all the time, but the two bridge parts of Evacuation are amazing.
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  • Gonzo1977Gonzo1977 Posts: 1,696
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    I say this all the time, but the two bridge parts of Evacuation are amazing.

    Yes!!
    Another great song that takes interesting turns.

    Pearl Jam has such a great way of adding these subtle changes into songs and it just moves so effortlessly.

    They don't get enough credit for this as they are one of very few bands that challenge song structures with interesting changes and bridges.

    Cool song
  • memememe Posts: 4,695
    I agree with all the gems that have been singled out (except for evacuation, of course :p)

    I would add:

    And by name, the name they gave me, the name I am letting gooooooooo


    I was so happy to hear it in Hartford :)
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  • SheetsOfClaySheetsOfClay Posts: 84
    1) 2:50 into the Lost Dogs version of Brother... that guitar lick with the heavy effects is a classic McCready touch. Brilliant. It's not on the other versions.

    2) The Bridge on Alone (Lost Dogs version) 1:30 in. That riff is good enough to base a hit song on... but they just "throw it away" as the bridge to a b-side. :) Powerful stuff.

    3) Sad (Lost Dogs), 3:10 in, just after the solo when Ed starts singing again... listen to that amazing guitar "texture" Mike put under the vocals. Unbelievable... I wish he'd attempt that live. Pure feeling.
  • Gonzo1977Gonzo1977 Posts: 1,696
    I've always loved the little guitar licks and effects that Stone and Mike bounce off each other and add to songs when they play live.

    Their guitar playing is so cool and they both complement each other so well

    For example listen to recent bootlegs (MSG and Boston) Stone's rhythm guitar work during Mike's solo's in "Even Flow" and "Porch".

    I also love that delayed phaser effect that Mike throws into songs to fill up the spaces live.

    Also during the bridge of "1/2 Full" the tone on Stone's guitar always kicks my ass...It's so raw and dirty.
  • GOSSArDgEEKGOSSArDgEEK Posts: 245
    The beginning 'of the girl' it's so intense and I always want to smoke a cigarette.

    And the clash of the cymbal...in ''other side' then all these lyrics..
    Death ain't the same without you, dear
    I make the others run and hide
    New york streets seem to make it worse
    All this noise inside the quiet

    I can't hold on, the weight you bear
    My body's broken fast, please lift me up
    You can't know what it's like to be inside
    The fading melodies can't beat my need

    I'm not the same without you here
    How can i quit to be there
    Sit and stare
    Stare..
    Begging for a prayer
    ...brings me to tears.

    these words in 'sad'
    if just one wish could bring her back, it's sent
    and his holiness is proof, it's sad
    he will always love you, it's sad
    Here’s a question you might need to ask
    What’s self destruction and how can we last?

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  • Stone IronsStone Irons Posts: 430
    Brain Of E wrote:
    I always like Jeff's bass doodle in No Way, it's an awesome song through out, but that part just stands out for me.

    Actually, Stone plays bass on the studio version of "No Way".
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  • PJammer4lifePJammer4life Los Angeles Posts: 2,656
    In Breath.. "there's much more than this...whooo.." and then jeff's bass crawl of the next few notes
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  • Brain Of EBrain Of E Posts: 499
    Stone Irons wrote:
    Actually, Stone plays bass on the studio version of "No Way".

    i did not know that, i just lost a little respect for jeff. :(
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  • hankhank Posts: 3
    Pilate was a great suggestion. Here's what I came up with:

    Elderly Woman - most people like the "helloooo", I prefer the line that follows, "my god its been so long..."

    Wash - what she don't know today, might kill us both tomorrow

    Glorified G - the repeated "GLORIFIED" at the end over the guitar outtro

    Rats - similar to Glorified G, the "Ben the two of us..." outtro. If you turn up the volume, it goes on for quite a while and there are slight melody changes - pure magic.

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  • vluggagevluggage Posts: 71
    Brain Of E wrote:
    i did not know that, i just lost a little respect for jeff. :(

    Don't worry. Just watch them perform "The Real Me" on the VH1 Rock Honors special, and you will gain all of that respect back.
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  • Brain Of EBrain Of E Posts: 499
    1/2 Empty wrote:
    Don't worry. Just watch them perform "The Real Me" on the VH1 Rock Honors special, and you will gain all of that respect back.

    WOW, that actually worked!!! thanks. :)
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  • Rats of MultaRats of Multa Posts: 250
    Garden.

    not sure how they do it, but all the little bits of this song combine to give me the chills every time i listen.
    we don’t know just where our bones will rest,
    to dust i guess,
    forgotten and absorbed into the earth below,..
  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    The guitar break in "Rival."

    Pure awesomeness.
  • Brisk.Brisk. Posts: 11,567
    anyone got mp3 links of this?

    If so could they pm me ?

    thanks :d

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  • Gonzo1977Gonzo1977 Posts: 1,696
    "Don't see some men as half empty...See them half full of shit". I love the way Eddie say's "shit" on that one.

    Also..."Faithfull" is full of little gems.

    From Jack's drum intro to the guitar interplay between Stone and Mike...It's just a stellar song all around
  • smile05smile05 Posts: 600
    First vs of I AM MINE is pretty dam special
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  • Not PavedNot Paved Posts: 45
    I love the moment when Man Of The Hour swells and the tone shifts about 2/3 of the way through the song (2:18 mark of the studio version), holding and then releasing thirty seconds later or so.

    Similarly, there's the descending part of Nothing As It Seems where it sounds like things are falling down around you (starting 3:21), only to tighten back up nicely as if a breeze blows through (4:00).

    Or the moment when you hear the band seeking each other out at the end of the extended jam in live performances of Porch, and they find it and pull together and with a swoop you're back into the song proper.

    I'm a sucker for moments like these, where a song subtly drifts away and then snaps back together. I find myself anticipating hearing the transitions and resolutions even before they come, and when that part of the song inevitably arrives it's like satisfying an itch. (Off topic, probably my favorite example of this is Radiohead's How To Disappear Completely. Seriously, around 5:00 or 5:15 of that song things are right on the edge of falling to pieces... and then just like that, at 5:23 is a moment of clarity and everything is back on track.)

    Also, the outro to Present Tense is pretty magical.

    [I know this isn't entirely in the spirit of your initial question, as none of these are particularly overlooked songs. Still, I thought this was a fun thread worth bumping, particularly because it's been a fun excuse to go back and listen for the stretches of songs that everyone has chosen to highlight.]
  • Alive_268Alive_268 Posts: 213
    Faithfull's bridge.


    So powerfull
  • jmcjcjmcjc Posts: 90
    Thanks!!! i enjoyed every one of your posts!!!

    Immortality and Footsteps both have parts- both lyrics and sounds that take me to another place..... wow!

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    Eddie vocals during the last verse of Do the Evolution (studio) is the most bad-ass thing I've ever heard
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  • falconfalcon Posts: 163
    Great thread! I have nothing original to say, because my gem's have already been stated...

    ...the bass line after the bridge on "No Way:

    ...the outtro on "Present Tense" I wish it went longer before the fade. Love it!!!
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  • CranMalReignCranMalReign Posts: 1,928
    NotPaved wrote:
    Or the moment when you hear the band seeking each other out at the end of the extended jam in live performances of Porch, and they find it and pull together and with a swoop you're back into the song proper.

    LOVE LOVE LOOOOOVE THAT!!!

    I remember when I somehow found this version of Porch... I have it dated 6/18/92, but not sure if that's correct. That breakdown has a *gorgeous* example of what you described, and was actually probably the thing that made fall in mad, unbridled, lusty, dirty, shameful monkeylove with this song live.
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  • trammeustrammeus Posts: 124
    Julien wrote:
    jeff's solo in present tense.

    Am I the only one who noticed a *little* of Under Pressure (Queen) at the end of it?
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