There are some great movies that document early 80s punk:
The Decline of Western Civilization (X, Black Flag, Germs and other L.A. bands)
Suburbia ( story about some runaway punks in L.A., and has performances from a club called "Godzillas")...Flea is one of the stars of the movie...I remember when they filmed parts of it at a shop around the corner from my house.
Urgh!, a Music War (shot at the Santa Monica Civic Auditorium in 1980....features punk/new wave bands from everywhere, not just L.A.!)
Yeah I've seen Decline of Western Civilisation. Good film. John Doe from X said though that, even though his band were featured, most of the bands that were really important weren't, Penelope Spheeris was more interested in showing the kind of sleazy side of thing, Darby Crash and his addictions etc than covering bands like The Weirdos.
"I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
"I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
I was going to put HD, but I figured someone would come on here and say they weren't punk. lol I am thinking you and I are the only ones that have even heard of SLF.
I don't like the original band posted. Never heard of them, googled them, don't like them.
Fear...that takes me back!
Cause I'm broken when I'm lonesome
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
Yeah I've seen Decline of Western Civilisation. Good film. John Doe from X said though that, even though his band were featured, most of the bands that were really important weren't, Penelope Spheeris was more interested in showing the kind of sleazy side of thing, Darby Crash and his addictions etc than covering bands like The Weirdos.
I agree...seems like she put a lot of focus on the lifestyle, and not just the music.
I was going to put HD, but I figured someone would come on here and say they weren't punk. lol I am thinking you and I are the only ones that have even heard of SLF. : p
I don't like the original band posted. Never heard of them, googled them, don't like them.
Fear...that takes me back! : )
How could anyone not like Bad Brains? :eek: Sheer, pure, primal energy. They are the most "punk" band ever They did have some slightly dodgy homophobic views due to their rastafarianism though Unless you meant the original band in the thread and not the ones I posted...?
Stiff Little Fingers are great. Alternative Ulster has some of my favourite lyrics ever.
As for Husker Du, they were definitely punk to start with, even if they became a pop band, and their version of Eight Miles High is the very definition anyway, taking a hippie statement, chewing it up and screaming it back out at them
"I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
How could anyone not like Bad Brains? :eek: Sheer, pure, primal energy. They are the most "punk" band ever They did have some slightly dodgy homophobic views due to their rastafarianism though Unless you meant the original band in the thread and not the ones I posted...?
Stiff Little Fingers are great. Alternative Ulster has some of my favourite lyrics ever.
As for Husker Du, they were definitely punk to start with, even if they became a pop band, and their version of Eight Miles High is the very definition anyway, taking a hippie statement, chewing it up and screaming it back out at them
For a young bloke, you are quite the scholar on the topic of 80s punk....very impressive!
HR from the Bad Brains was quite the character.....just about anyting would set him off into a state of rage!
to me, the Clash are pretty much the most over rated band ever
I say Sex Pistols, I know everyone else is waaaaay too cool to mention them. But, it is a simple truth.
For a young bloke, you are quite the scholar on the topic of 80s punk....very impressive!
HR from the Bad Brains was quite the character.....just about anyting would set him off into a state of rage!
It's a bit of a passion of mine. One day a few years back I bought Minor Threat's Complete Discography on a whim because something about the cover shot just arrested me. That compilation lit a fucking explosion in my heart
HR does indeed seem like quite an individual. I've read some recent interviews with him and either he's acting it or he genuinely is losing his mind.
"I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
to me, the Clash are pretty much the most over rated band ever
I say Sex Pistols, I know everyone else is waaaaay too cool to mention them. But, it is a simple truth.
Hehe, come on, how can you call The Clash overrated and then give props to the Pistols? They were an act. A good act but an act. All of the first wave of English bands were just posers.
I do agree on The Clash though, just in case you think I'm defending them
"I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
I will say The Minutemen. Not only were they a punk band, but their punk attitude and way of thinking wasn't just an act for the stage. They believed in what they were doing.
Hehe, come on, how can you call The Clash overrated and then give props to the Pistols? They were an act. A good act but an act. All of the first wave of English bands were just posers.
I do agree on The Clash though, just in case you think I'm defending them
I'm not a scholar of punk j just knows what I like. And the Clash to me are, well they were trying to be something, they had an agenda....and to be honest, apart from a handful of songs they pretty much missed all their targets for me.
The Pistols were a proper band, never mind what Maclaren has 'fabricated' over the years from his imagination.
I will say The Minutemen. Not only were they a punk band, but their punk attitude and way of thinking wasn't just an act for the stage. They believed in what they were doing.
Brilliant band. History Lesson pt II is the best song about being in a band ever.
"I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
to me, the Clash are pretty much the most over rated band ever
I say Sex Pistols, I know everyone else is waaaaay too cool to mention them. But, it is a simple truth.
Hey now! I wasn't too cool to mention them I love the Sex Pistols.
I do have to admit that I think my punk knowledge is a little amateur for this thread.
I'm not a scholar of punk j just knows what I like. And the Clash to me are, well they were trying to be something, they had an agenda....and to be honest, apart from a handful of songs they pretty much missed all their targets for me.
The Pistols were a proper band, never mind what Maclaren has 'fabricated' over the years from his imagination.
I know what you mean about The Clash but in what way did the Pistols also not try to be something and have an agenda? They were a killer pop band but the whole "fuck the establishment" thing just doesn't hold up with how tailored and contrived it was, in a different way to The Clash but still kind of... fake. I mean, Lydon was a fan of Can and Captain Beefheart and Van Der Graaf Generator and stuff like that but he went around wearing "I hate Pink Floyd" t-shirts as if his band were saving rock from prog. I've got nothing against commercialism but when it's pretending to be something else...
I dunno, they're like Billy Corgan for me. Great tunes, just hate them as a band. It shouldn't affect the music but it does for me. Plus I mean, watching the fat gits playing that stuff now is so pathetic and it just taints what I used to think was a brilliant rock album.
Still, Bollocks is better than London Calling.
"I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
to me, the Clash are pretty much the most over rated band ever
I say Sex Pistols, I know everyone else is waaaaay too cool to mention them. But, it is a simple truth.
its funny how one claims The Clash were overrated...then offer The Sex Pistols as the alternative.
I will say The Minutemen. Not only were they a punk band, but their punk attitude and way of thinking wasn't just an act for the stage. They believed in what they were doing.
there is a great documentary about the Minutemen but I cant think of the name now.....but it involves Mike Watt driving around San Pedro in his van and telling the camera about places they played when they first started...its a great movie for any fan
there is a great documentary about the Minutemen but I cant think of the name now.....but it involves Mike Watt driving around San Pedro in his van and telling the camera about places they played when they first started...its a great movie for any fan
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"I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
I know what you mean about The Clash but in what way did the Pistols also not try to be something and have an agenda? They were a killer pop band but the whole "fuck the establishment" thing just doesn't hold up with how tailored and contrived it was, in a different way to The Clash but still kind of... fake. I mean, Lydon was a fan of Can and Captain Beefheart and Van Der Graaf Generator and stuff like that but he went around wearing "I hate Pink Floyd" t-shirts as if his band were saving rock from prog. I've got nothing against commercialism but when it's pretending to be something else...
I dunno, they're like Billy Corgan for me. Great tunes, just hate them as a band. It shouldn't affect the music but it does for me. Plus I mean, watching the fat gits playing that stuff now is so pathetic and it just taints what I used to think was a brilliant rock album.
Still, Bollocks is better than London Calling.
I totally agree. Nevermind the Bollocks was the first punk album I listened to as a kid, and it threw me off because I thought all punk would sound like that. Nevermind the Bollocks pretty much was recorded as professionally as a record could be during that era. I remember getting a Misfits album after that and being turned off at first because it sounded like it was recorded in a shoebox in comparison to Nevermind the Bollocks.(Side-note, I grew to love the Misfits as I became older, regardless of poor recording equipment)
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I was going to put HD, but I figured someone would come on here and say they weren't punk. lol I am thinking you and I are the only ones that have even heard of SLF.
I don't like the original band posted. Never heard of them, googled them, don't like them.
Fear...that takes me back!
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
I agree...seems like she put a lot of focus on the lifestyle, and not just the music.
Stiff Little Fingers are great. Alternative Ulster has some of my favourite lyrics ever.
As for Husker Du, they were definitely punk to start with, even if they became a pop band, and their version of Eight Miles High is the very definition anyway, taking a hippie statement, chewing it up and screaming it back out at them
"Its a secret to everybody."
For a young bloke, you are quite the scholar on the topic of 80s punk....very impressive!
HR from the Bad Brains was quite the character.....just about anyting would set him off into a state of rage!
to me, the Clash are pretty much the most over rated band ever
I say Sex Pistols, I know everyone else is waaaaay too cool to mention them. But, it is a simple truth.
HR does indeed seem like quite an individual. I've read some recent interviews with him and either he's acting it or he genuinely is losing his mind.
sex pistols
bad religion
anti-flag
round out the top 4 for me
I do agree on The Clash though, just in case you think I'm defending them
Dead Kennedys --- US
Operation Ivy/Rancid ---- Today
good call!
I'm not a scholar of punk j
The Pistols were a proper band, never mind what Maclaren has 'fabricated' over the years from his imagination.
Hey now! I wasn't too cool to mention them
I do have to admit that I think my punk knowledge is a little amateur for this thread.
I dunno, they're like Billy Corgan for me. Great tunes, just hate them as a band. It shouldn't affect the music but it does for me. Plus I mean, watching the fat gits playing that stuff now is so pathetic and it just taints what I used to think was a brilliant rock album.
Still, Bollocks is better than London Calling.
Once I get out of this town
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its funny how one claims The Clash were overrated...then offer The Sex Pistols as the alternative.
there is a great documentary about the Minutemen but I cant think of the name now.....but it involves Mike Watt driving around San Pedro in his van and telling the camera about places they played when they first started...its a great movie for any fan
That's a great documentary. I have watched it a dozen times. If you get the DVD, there is a second disc that has two of their live shows.
I totally agree. Nevermind the Bollocks was the first punk album I listened to as a kid, and it threw me off because I thought all punk would sound like that. Nevermind the Bollocks pretty much was recorded as professionally as a record could be during that era. I remember getting a Misfits album after that and being turned off at first because it sounded like it was recorded in a shoebox in comparison to Nevermind the Bollocks.(Side-note, I grew to love the Misfits as I became older, regardless of poor recording equipment)
Minor Threat
Bad Brains
X
Bad Religion
saw Ian Mackaye the other night at a Q&A he did...amazing stuff
The Clash
Bad Brains
Black Flag
NOFX
Minutemen
Dead Kennedys