Has R.E.M.'s North American audience become so insignificant that they would rather play 35 shows in Europe to only 15 shows in their hemisphere of origin?
This anti european sentiment every time a band choses to do a decent tour of Europe is one of the most bizarre things I've ever read on this board. I have never felt any annoyance at UK bands for doing extensive tours of the US or anywhere else in the world. I pleased that they have managed to build a fanbase around the world. Yet people see a list of dates for Europe, and they are like "what they fuck - they've not played pigfuck in <insert your home state here>" I've heard people say it about the Pumpkins, R.E.M., Chris Cornell and most annoying of all, Pearl Jam - who play roughly once every 8.5 years in my country.
Personally if I was in a band, I would look forward to playing in places I don't come from. Surely the first gig in a new city in a new country must be better than the 100th in <insert very boring US city here>.
Is there nothing else to vent your fury on in the US. Is everything that perfect?
This anti european sentiment every time a band choses to do a decent tour of Europe is one of the most bizarre things I've ever read on this board. I have never felt any annoyance at UK bands for doing extensive tours of the US or anywhere else in the world. I pleased that they have managed to build a fanbase around the world. Yet people see a list of dates for Europe, and they are like "what they fuck - they've not played pigfuck in <insert your home state here>" I've heard people say it about the Pumpkins, R.E.M., Chris Cornell and most annoying of all, Pearl Jam - who play roughly once every 8.5 years in my country.
Personally if I was in a band, I would look forward to playing in places I don't come from. Surely the first gig in a new city in a new country must be better than the 100th in <insert very boring US city here>.
Is there nothing else to vent your fury on in the US. Is everything that perfect?
I'm glad someone pointed this out. I've never understood this hostility towards Europe. You would think the Americans especially would have other things to be concerned with in their country.
When it comes to R.E.M., the fact that they seem to be a lot bigger here in Europe than they are back in the states should be reason enough for them to do fairly big tours over here. This is where they're going to make the most money, so it makes sense.
I think some people from the U.S. just automatically assume that because the band is american they deserve more shows than anywhere else, and i'm not sure i agree with that. Like you said, going away to new places must be much more exciting.
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I'm glad someone pointed this out. I've never understood this hostility towards Europe. You would think the Americans especially would have other things to be concerned with in their country.
When it comes to R.E.M., the fact that they seem to be a lot bigger here in Europe than they are back in the states should be reason enough for them to do fairly big tours over here. This is where they're going to make the most money, so it makes sense.
I think some people from the U.S. just automatically assume that because the band is american they deserve more shows than anywhere else, and i'm not sure i agree with that. Like you said, going away to new places must be much more exciting.
This anti european sentiment every time a band choses to do a decent tour of Europe is one of the most bizarre things I've ever read on this board. I have never felt any annoyance at UK bands for doing extensive tours of the US or anywhere else in the world. I pleased that they have managed to build a fanbase around the world. Yet people see a list of dates for Europe, and they are like "what they fuck - they've not played pigfuck in <insert your home state here>" I've heard people say it about the Pumpkins, R.E.M., Chris Cornell and most annoying of all, Pearl Jam - who play roughly once every 8.5 years in my country.
Personally if I was in a band, I would look forward to playing in places I don't come from. Surely the first gig in a new city in a new country must be better than the 100th in <insert very boring US city here>.
Is there nothing else to vent your fury on in the US. Is everything that perfect?
I'm glad someone pointed this out. I've never understood this hostility towards Europe. You would think the Americans especially would have other things to be concerned with in their country.
When it comes to R.E.M., the fact that they seem to be a lot bigger here in Europe than they are back in the states should be reason enough for them to do fairly big tours over here. This is where they're going to make the most money, so it makes sense.
I think some people from the U.S. just automatically assume that because the band is american they deserve more shows than anywhere else, and i'm not sure i agree with that. Like you said, going away to new places must be much more exciting.
How is there any "hostility" or "anti-European sentiment" in what I asked? I think it's a bit presumptuous of you to infer that.
I was merely asking why there is a discrepancy in the number of shows. I didn't make threats, call names, or express any anger regarding the facts. I just wanted to understand.
Not all of us know everything about the distribution of R.E.M.'s fanbase across the globe.
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It's true, they're much bigger over here these days. I remember the Cricket Ground in Manchester being sold out in 2005, which is about 40,000 if i'm not mistaken.
Hyde Park was a huuuuuuuge gig too, about 100,000.
good for them, thats crazy they can still pull those numbers in over there!
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I don't get paid until Friday so i'm hoping i'll get a Manchester ticket when the general sale starts. What are the chances that they'll sell out quickly? I don't imagine i'll have much trouble snagging a pair.
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when does the tickets for the U.S shows go on sale? I've heard nothing lately apart from the dates....
nobody does. they have had the dates out for over a month and havent announced when the tickets are gunna be on sale (or what new york venue they are gunna play for that matter). i am so frustrated cuz i have to budget my summer concert money, but R.E.M. are very high on my list of groups i want to see! this is fucking annoying!
i get paid once a month, and my account is down to just enough to buy my tampa tickets tomorrow and get me through to next week, so hopefully rem fan club tickets don't go on sale till next monday--payday. it's crazy how long the presale has taken. I'm hearing that general public on sale is april 5, so the first week of april makes sense for the presale.
I'm hearing that general public on sale is april 5, so the first week of april makes sense for the presale.
That would be just my luck, since I'm out of town 3/31 through 4/3 with no access to a computer, that would pretty much blow my chance at getting fan club tickets. If that's what happens, maybe I'll be able to pick up presale tickets for Atlanta through their email list. Or I'll have to get my seats when they go on sale to the general public.
Damn it, I am NOT going to miss this tour!
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I was ALL ready to get REM tickets for Atlanta, then Pearl Jam announced they're playing MSG and those plans went to hell.
Why couldn't both bands play back-to-back nights in one venue? It would be so convenient for me.
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R.E.M.
Deer Lake Park , Vancouver, BC
Fri, May 23, 2008 04:30 PM
CA $57.50
Onsale to General Public:
Sat, 04/05/08 10:00 AM PDT
Internet Presale Info
Live Nation Presale:
Start:Wed, 04/02/08 10:00 AM PDT
Radio Presale:
Start:Wed, 04/02/08 10:00 AM PDT
Georgia Straight Pre:
Start:Wed, 04/02/08 10:00 AM PDT
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This anti european sentiment every time a band choses to do a decent tour of Europe is one of the most bizarre things I've ever read on this board. I have never felt any annoyance at UK bands for doing extensive tours of the US or anywhere else in the world. I pleased that they have managed to build a fanbase around the world. Yet people see a list of dates for Europe, and they are like "what they fuck - they've not played pigfuck in <insert your home state here>" I've heard people say it about the Pumpkins, R.E.M., Chris Cornell and most annoying of all, Pearl Jam - who play roughly once every 8.5 years in my country.
Personally if I was in a band, I would look forward to playing in places I don't come from. Surely the first gig in a new city in a new country must be better than the 100th in <insert very boring US city here>.
Is there nothing else to vent your fury on in the US. Is everything that perfect?
I'm glad someone pointed this out. I've never understood this hostility towards Europe. You would think the Americans especially would have other things to be concerned with in their country.
When it comes to R.E.M., the fact that they seem to be a lot bigger here in Europe than they are back in the states should be reason enough for them to do fairly big tours over here. This is where they're going to make the most money, so it makes sense.
I think some people from the U.S. just automatically assume that because the band is american they deserve more shows than anywhere else, and i'm not sure i agree with that. Like you said, going away to new places must be much more exciting.
I got a bit carried away in my crusade:
http://forums.pearljam.com/showpost.php?p=5222070&postcount=11
edit - not all americans are like this, just a small few
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How is there any "hostility" or "anti-European sentiment" in what I asked? I think it's a bit presumptuous of you to infer that.
I was merely asking why there is a discrepancy in the number of shows. I didn't make threats, call names, or express any anger regarding the facts. I just wanted to understand.
Not all of us know everything about the distribution of R.E.M.'s fanbase across the globe.
.
New Orleans 1995
Fort Lauderdale 1996
Atlanta & Birmingham 1998
New Orleans 2000
Tampa 2003
Kissimmee 2004
New York City (x 2) 2008
East Troy (x 2) 2011
Chicago & New Orleans 2013
Hampton, Raleigh, Boston 2016
Baltimore 2020
Louisville 2022
Philadelphia & Baltimore 2024
good for them, thats crazy they can still pull those numbers in over there!
http://www.spin.com/reviews/rem-accelerate-warner-bros
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nobody does. they have had the dates out for over a month and havent announced when the tickets are gunna be on sale (or what new york venue they are gunna play for that matter). i am so frustrated cuz i have to budget my summer concert money, but R.E.M. are very high on my list of groups i want to see! this is fucking annoying!
Damn :( missed 'em
I have my Twickenham ticket but RAH will be soooooooooooooo good
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That would be just my luck, since I'm out of town 3/31 through 4/3 with no access to a computer, that would pretty much blow my chance at getting fan club tickets. If that's what happens, maybe I'll be able to pick up presale tickets for Atlanta through their email list. Or I'll have to get my seats when they go on sale to the general public.
Damn it, I am NOT going to miss this tour!
Why couldn't both bands play back-to-back nights in one venue? It would be so convenient for me.
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New Orleans 1995
Fort Lauderdale 1996
Atlanta & Birmingham 1998
New Orleans 2000
Tampa 2003
Kissimmee 2004
New York City (x 2) 2008
East Troy (x 2) 2011
Chicago & New Orleans 2013
Hampton, Raleigh, Boston 2016
Baltimore 2020
Louisville 2022
Philadelphia & Baltimore 2024
ditto... i was already for philly than pj announce camden!
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I love you forever and forever
Adel 03 Melb 1 03 LA 2 06 Santa Barbara 06 Gorge 1 06 Gorge 2 06 Adel 1 06 Adel 2 06 Camden 1 08 Camden 2 08 Washington DC 08 Hartford 08
R.E.M.
Deer Lake Park , Vancouver, BC
Fri, May 23, 2008 04:30 PM
CA $57.50
Onsale to General Public:
Sat, 04/05/08 10:00 AM PDT
Internet Presale Info
Live Nation Presale:
Start:Wed, 04/02/08 10:00 AM PDT
Radio Presale:
Start:Wed, 04/02/08 10:00 AM PDT
Georgia Straight Pre:
Start:Wed, 04/02/08 10:00 AM PDT