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What Is 'Metal' ?!

pirlo21pirlo21 Posts: 534
edited April 2007 in Other Music
Walking round my local music store. I noticed that albums by bands that I'd consider to be 'pop', such as Panic! At The Disco, Fall Out Boy, My Chemical Romance etc were to be found in the 'metal' section!
Then when I tried looking for Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, AC/DC, they were in the 'pop' section!!! What's going on? These bands invented the genre!
Even bands like Faith No More, Soundgarden, Dinosaur Jr were in the 'pop' section!

Looks like I've been kidding myself all these years thinking I was a rock fan. Seems I'm a pop tart after all !!!!
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  • intodeepintodeep Posts: 7,228
    pirlo21 wrote:
    Walking round my local music store. I noticed that albums by bands that I'd consider to be 'pop', such as Panic! At The Disco, Fall Out Boy, My Chemical Romance etc were to be found in the 'metal' section!
    Then when I tried looking for Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, AC/DC, they were in the 'pop' section!!! What's going on? These bands invented the genre!
    Even bands like Faith No More, Soundgarden, Dinosaur Jr were in the 'pop' section!

    Looks like I've been kidding myself all these years thinking I was a rock fan. Seems I'm a pop tart after all !!!!

    most places you go to will group rock and pop together.

    Panic at the disco fall out boy and my chemical romance being listed in the metal section is borderline criminal.
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,850
    pirlo21 wrote:
    Walking round my local music store. I noticed that albums by bands that I'd consider to be 'pop', such as Panic! At The Disco, Fall Out Boy, My Chemical Romance etc were to be found in the 'metal' section!
    Then when I tried looking for Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, AC/DC, they were in the 'pop' section!!! What's going on? These bands invented the genre!
    Even bands like Faith No More, Soundgarden, Dinosaur Jr were in the 'pop' section!

    Looks like I've been kidding myself all these years thinking I was a rock fan. Seems I'm a pop tart after all !!!!


    Pop and rock are usually catagorized together in record stores. seperate from Soundtracks, Rap, Country, Gospel, etc.
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  • AzwethinkweizAzwethinkweiz Posts: 547
    Machine Head & Mastodon are the saviors of metal.
  • boxwine_in_hellboxwine_in_hell Posts: 1,263
    pirlo21 wrote:
    Walking round my local music store. I noticed that albums by bands that I'd consider to be 'pop', such as Panic! At The Disco, Fall Out Boy, My Chemical Romance etc were to be found in the 'metal' section!
    Then when I tried looking for Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, AC/DC, they were in the 'pop' section!!! What's going on? These bands invented the genre!
    Even bands like Faith No More, Soundgarden, Dinosaur Jr were in the 'pop' section!

    Looks like I've been kidding myself all these years thinking I was a rock fan. Seems I'm a pop tart after all !!!!

    I think you had a stoned record store employee. If Panic at the Disco is "Metal" then my abs look like Brad Pitt's in Fight Club.
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  • western pearlwestern pearl Posts: 632
    I think someone was having fun w/ the store...or the store was having fun w/ its customers.

    I miss the old record store in town, they had a whole 'punk' section...tons of great stuff. Tons of actual records too. Now all there is is a CD warehouse and Best buy/target and every other corporate store.
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  • YieldInHidingYieldInHiding Posts: 1,841
    Fanch is MetaL! \m/
    No longer overwhelmed it seems so simple now.
  • western pearlwestern pearl Posts: 632
    YieldInHiding wrote:
    Fanch is MetaL! \m/


    hahahaha
    "Everyone is a patriot in some form or another.... i prefer the intelligent ones."

    "She fell funny"

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  • pjalive21pjalive21 Posts: 2,818
    Azwethinkweiz wrote:
    Machine Head & Mastodon are the saviors of metal.

    hey throw some Killswitch Engage in there too...though they have been around longer :)
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  • Dog's IceDog's Ice Posts: 5
    Azwethinkweiz wrote:
    Machine Head & Mastodon are the saviors of metal.
    Nile and Nevermore are, actually.
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    i was going to make a crack about metal (ive expressed my dislike of the genre before), but i've got to admit, that classification blows my mind. i cant wrap my head around it. makes no sense.
  • Dog's IceDog's Ice Posts: 5
    soulsinging wrote:
    i was going to make a crack about metal (ive expressed my dislike of the genre before), but i've got to admit, that classification blows my mind. i cant wrap my head around it. makes no sense.
    Death, thrash, viking, folk, doom, sludge, progressive.

    What's not to get?
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    iron, steel, tin, aluminum, gold, silver, copper, ect.. ect..
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  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    Dog's Ice wrote:
    Death, thrash, viking, folk, doom, sludge, progressive.

    What's not to get?

    where panic at the disco and mcr fit into those categories, like the first post mentioned ;)
  • Dog's IceDog's Ice Posts: 5
    soulsinging wrote:
    where panic at the disco and mcr fit into those categories, like the first post mentioned ;)
    Uhh....

    I dunno.
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  • Gary CarterGary Carter Posts: 14,067
    pjalive21 wrote:
    hey throw some Killswitch Engage in there too...though they have been around longer :)
    throw some as i lay dying in there too
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  • JennytreeJennytree Posts: 5,340
    soulsinging wrote:
    where panic at the disco and mcr fit into those categories, like the first post mentioned ;)

    there's a Shite Metal section! Nevermore, Opeth, Pantera... rarr!

    This might help:
    GRIND METAL:
    The protagonist arrives, screams something completely undecipherable for about 2 mintues and then leaves...

    POWER /SYMPHONIC METAL:
    The protagonist arrives riding a white unicorn, escapes from the
    dragon, saves the princess and they make love in an enchanted forest

    TRASH METAL:
    The protagonist arrives, fights the dragon, saves the princess and
    fucks her....... easy and quick (10 mins or less)

    HEAVY METAL:
    The protagonist arrives on a Harley Davidson, kills the dragon, drinks some beers and fucks the princess

    FOLK METAL:
    The protagonist arrives with some friends playing accordions, violins, flutes and many more weird instruments, the dragon falls asleep (from all the dancing) protagonist leaves without the princess

    VIKING METAL:
    The protagonist arrives in a ship, kills the dragon with his migthy
    axe, cooks and eats it, rapes the princess to death, steals the castle and burns the place before he leaves

    DEATH METAL:
    The protagonist arrives, kills the dragon, fucks the princess and
    kills her, then leaves

    BLACK METAL:
    The protagonist arrives at midnight, kills the dragon and impales it in the front of the castle.....then sodomizes the princess, drinks her blood in a ritual before killing her.....then he impales the deflowered princess too

    GORE METAL:
    The protagonist arrives, kills the dragon and spreads his guts in the front of the castle, fucks the princess and kills her....then he fucks again her dead body, slashes her belly open and eatsher guts, fucks the carcass for the third time, burns the corpse and fucks it for the last time

    DOOM METAL:
    The protagonist arrives, sees the size of the dragon and thinks that he never could beat him, gets depressed and commits suicide....the dragon eats his body and the princess as well

    PROGRESIVE METAL:
    The protagonist arrives with a guitar and plays a solo for 26 minutes, the dragon kills himself out of boredom, the protagonist arrives to the princess' bedroom, plays another solo with all the techniques learned in the last year of the conservatory... the princess escapes, and is now looking for the "HEAVY METAL" protagonist

    GLAM METAL:
    The protagonist arrives, the dragon laughs at the guy's appearance and lets him enter, he steals the princess' make-up and tries to paint the castle in a beautiful pink color

    INDUSTRIAL METAL:
    The protagonist arrives wearing greasy overcoat, makes an obscene gestures towards dragon, and gets escorted out of fairy tale land by security guards.
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  • boxwine_in_hellboxwine_in_hell Posts: 1,263
    pjalive21 wrote:
    hey throw some Killswitch Engage in there too...though they have been around longer :)

    Fuck that if you want real metal, you've got to go old school. At a party a couple weeks ago after about 10 cocktails we started playing a game of who could remember the most hilarious, horrible, ridiculous....etc.... Metal band. Some of my personal favorites that came up.

    GWAR
    Helloween
    King Diamond
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    the other foot in the gutter
    sweet smell that they adore
    I think I'd rather smother
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  • intodeepintodeep Posts: 7,228
    boxwine_in_hell wrote:
    Fuck that if you want real metal, you've got to go old school. At a party a couple weeks ago after about 10 cocktails we started playing a game of who could remember the most hilarious, horrible, ridiculous....etc.... Metal band. Some of my personal favorites that came up.

    GWAR
    Helloween
    King Diamond
    Does Accept or Wasp count as metal? If so they were quite ridiculous.

    Pretty funny description of the various metal genres. I loved the Viking one that one!
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    Yeah, those descriptions are a riot!!

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  • Reynaldo6Reynaldo6 Posts: 80
    intodeep wrote:
    most places you go to will group rock and pop together.

    Panic at the disco fall out boy and my chemical romance being listed in the metal section is borderline criminal.

    haha i totally agree, they are not even close to metal. whoever did that needs to be shot
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  • smartass1235smartass1235 Posts: 136
    *TheirInvisibleCrown wrote:
    I think it's funny when I see Pantera in the Metal section and Metallica in the Pop/Rock. Haha. :rolleyes:


    That seeems fairly accurate to me?
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  • pjalive21pjalive21 Posts: 2,818
    metsfan531941 wrote:
    throw some as i lay dying in there too

    hell yeah...those guys kick ass live!!!

    im looking foward to Static X and Otep touring together, cant wait for that show
  • pjalive21pjalive21 Posts: 2,818
    boxwine_in_hell wrote:
    Fuck that if you want real metal, you've got to go old school. At a party a couple weeks ago after about 10 cocktails we started playing a game of who could remember the most hilarious, horrible, ridiculous....etc.... Metal band. Some of my personal favorites that came up.

    GWAR
    Helloween
    King Diamond

    IMO GWAR is a touring freak show, never considered them much of anything but a novelty

    "old school" metal at one point consisted of Iron Maiden and Judas Priest, can you believe that? wow how things have changed with metal over the years
  • boxwine_in_hellboxwine_in_hell Posts: 1,263
    pjalive21 wrote:
    IMO GWAR is a touring freak show, never considered them much of anything but a novelty

    "old school" metal at one point consisted of Iron Maiden and Judas Priest, can you believe that? wow how things have changed with metal over the years

    True but Maiden and Priest actually had talent. GWAR, Helloween and King Diamond were just so bad and absurd that they were a train wreck.
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  • transplanttransplant Posts: 1,088
    boxwine_in_hell wrote:
    True but Maiden and Priest actually had talent. GWAR, Helloween and King Diamond were just so bad and absurd that they were a train wreck.
    you obviously haven't heard Helloween's Keeper of the Seven Keys Pt II. it was hard to even type that with a straight face.
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  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    Dog's Ice wrote:
    Death, thrash, viking, folk, doom, sludge, progressive.

    What's not to get?


    don't forget stoner metal. Kyuss.
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