Audioslave break up

Get Ready for Eddy

Hey guys, i've been really busy in junior year so i haven't been on the board much and i apolagize in advance if a topic such as this one has already been created. however, i'd just like to express my deep concern and disappointment in the immaturity of the members of audioslave for not doing a tour for their latest album. i am a RATM fan and a huge soundgarden fan, but i am a diehard audioslave fan. their music took me places, and i feel that they betrayed their fanbase and the music industry by not doing a tour. in addition, my friend signed up as an audiophile off of their website and he never got his fan card or anything but a folder. in addition, i'd like to add my biased comment that 95% of the RATM fans are posers anyways (not attacking or flaming anyone on this board specifically, just what i've seen in the past). anyways, let me know what your view is on the subject. also, sorry about the long paragraph :-\

Get Ready for Eddy

correction: 95% of the CURRENT RATM fans, not the ones that have loved them since their self titled album.

musicismylife78

from reading interviews with cornell, sounds like they were having problems for awhile as a band, and not getting along. So I would assume they didnt tour because of the same reasons: they didnt get along.

facepollution

Get Ready for Eddy wrote:

Hey guys, i've been really busy in junior year so i haven't been on the board much and i apolagize in advance if a topic such as this one has already been created. however, i'd just like to express my deep concern and disappointment in the immaturity of the members of audioslave for not doing a tour for their latest album. i am a RATM fan and a huge soundgarden fan, but i am a diehard audioslave fan. their music took me places, and i feel that they betrayed their fanbase and the music industry by not doing a tour. in addition, my friend signed up as an audiophile off of their website and he never got his fan card or anything but a folder. in addition, i'd like to add my biased comment that 95% of the RATM fans are posers anyways (not attacking or flaming anyone on this board specifically, just what i've seen in the past). anyways, let me know what your view is on the subject. also, sorry about the long paragraph :-\

"Immaturity"?! To be quite honest with the load of tripe you've just written, the only person that looks immature here is YOU. None of us know the true extent of the problems the band were having and the state of their personal relationships.

As for the majority of RATM fans being posers, again that is an utterly baseless argument - and to be quite honest, since you are in junior year, I very much doubt you can even remember RATM at the height of their fame, let alone what their fans are or were like. Perhaps I'm missing what your definition of a poser is? My definition (in the context you are using) is someone who pretends to like a type of music to somehow make them look cool. Which could hardly be the case with RATM, since they split up like seven years ago, they're not exactly at the forefront of the music scene at the moment.

Dick Jones

Plus it probably got boring singing over the same riff night after night.

Innocent_Bystander

Chris Cornell just wanted all the royalties to himself. He feels entitled to them because "he writes the songs, he sings the songs, and they just play the instruments."

searchlightsoul

Innocent_Bystander wrote:

Chris Cornell just wanted all the royalties to himself. He feels entitled to them because "he writes the songs, he sings the songs, and they just play the instruments."

If he wanted more money he would have kept Audioslave together. Good thing he moved on, Tom Morello just handicapped that band.

Get Ready for Eddy

facepollution wrote:

"Immaturity"?! To be quite honest with the load of tripe you've just written, the only person that looks immature here is YOU. None of us know the true extent of the problems the band were having and the state of their personal relationships.

As for the majority of RATM fans being posers, again that is an utterly baseless argument - and to be quite honest, since you are in junior year, I very much doubt you can even remember RATM at the height of their fame, let alone what their fans are or were like. Perhaps I'm missing what your definition of a poser is? My definition (in the context you are using) is someone who pretends to like a type of music to somehow make them look cool. Which could hardly be the case with RATM, since they split up like seven years ago, they're not exactly at the forefront of the music scene at the moment.

Uugh, first of all, chill out bro. second of all, like someone said before, i meant to say current ratm fans. obviously, you're not going to be a poser if you bought their self titled the day it came out. and by poser, i mean that their favorite album is Renegades, and the only songs they have by them are Renegades of Funk and Killing in the Name. and yes, they also use the name to make themselves look like rebels and badasses. and yes, i don't remember them at the height of their fame, but i still bought and have listened to all of their albums. try this: go on facebook and look up groups such as Rage Against the Machine (I Wish Audioslave Didn't Suck). you'll see what i mean when i say posers/immature.

Get Ready for Eddy

Innocent_Bystander wrote:

Chris Cornell just wanted all the royalties to himself. He feels entitled to them because "he writes the songs, he sings the songs, and they just play the instruments."

dude, chris cornell wrote most of the music true, but he also voluntarily split the royalties evenly between the four of them. do you honestly think that these guys needed the money? granted, they almost broke up after the release of the first album because of financial reasons, but they're not exactly musicians who are just in it for the money, and i'm fairly sure that money was a relatively small factor in the breakup.

Pearl Jam and toast

Innocent_Bystander wrote:

Chris Cornell just wanted all the royalties to himself. He feels entitled to them because "he writes the songs, he sings the songs, and they just play the instruments."

that was a bullshit article written by a "news" website notarious for making things up. - COMPLETELY untrue.

facepollution

Get Ready for Eddy wrote:

Uugh, first of all, chill out bro. second of all, like someone said before, i meant to say current ratm fans. obviously, you're not going to be a poser if you bought their self titled the day it came out. and by poser, i mean that their favorite album is Renegades, and the only songs they have by them are Renegades of Funk and Killing in the Name. and yes, they also use the name to make themselves look like rebels and badasses. and yes, i don't remember them at the height of their fame, but i still bought and have listened to all of their albums. try this: go on facebook and look up groups such as Rage Against the Machine (I Wish Audioslave Didn't Suck). you'll see what i mean when i say posers/immature.

Well happily, I've never met any rage fans like that, ever. And the thing I took offence to was you calling the band 'immature' for not touring an album - talk about an odd choice of word, not to mention how condescending it sounds.

webberf1

speaking of Audioslave's songs, is there anywhere i can find the songwriting credits for all their individual songs? it would be interesting to see who else contributed to the songwriting on which songs other than cornell...

Get Ready for Eddy

facepollution wrote:

Well happily, I've never met any rage fans like that, ever. And the thing I took offence to was you calling the band 'immature' for not touring an album - talk about an odd choice of word, not to mention how condescending it sounds.

Wow suck it up dude you sound like such a pussy i'm sorry. they release an album and say at the previous concert that they'll "see you next spring!" they release the album and do no tour...that's IMMATURE. i don't know what's odd about that word choice? and like i said, CURRENT/2ND GEN rage fans, not diehard since the beginning ones. and you've probably never met a bad rage fan because in your eyes knowing 3 songs is a good fan. i'm willing to bet you don't even own a single one of their albums. peace and good riddance

DOSW

Get Ready for Eddy wrote:

and like i said, CURRENT/2ND GEN rage fans, not diehard since the beginning ones. and you've probably never met a bad rage fan because in your eyes knowing 3 songs is a good fan. i'm willing to bet you don't even own a single one of their albums. peace and good riddance

I like Rage Against the Machine. I've only gotten into them in the past few years because I was four years old when their self-titled album came out. I guess that makes me a poser. :rolleyes:

facepollution

Get Ready for Eddy wrote:

Wow suck it up dude you sound like such a pussy i'm sorry. they release an album and say at the previous concert that they'll "see you next spring!" they release the album and do no tour...that's IMMATURE. i don't know what's odd about that word choice? and like i said, CURRENT/2ND GEN rage fans, not diehard since the beginning ones. and you've probably never met a bad rage fan because in your eyes knowing 3 songs is a good fan. i'm willing to bet you don't even own a single one of their albums. peace and good riddance

You of about 18 (or somewhere near that) calling a group of 40 year old men who have their reasons for not wanting to tour, Immature is plain retarded. Clearly you don't actually know what the word immature means - fucking stupid choice of word. Contradictory would be more appropriate. So have you never gone back on your word at some point in your life? YOU do not know the real reasons why Cornell left, so hop off your high-horse and show so objectivity.

Oh, and since you are new here, I'll let the 'pussy' comment go, clearly you didn't know that name calling is frowned upon round here. That said, calling someone a 'pussy' just because they disagree with you is pretty damn immature in my book. Since you are having trouble understanding the word, I thought I would help you out: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/immature

And not owning one of their albums, please. I have all of their albums, I bought their self-titled cd back in '94, saw them live for the first time in '96. Grow the fuck up.

Get Ready for Eddy

facepollution wrote:

You of about 18 (or somewhere near that) calling a group of 40 year old men who have their reasons for not wanting to tour, Immature is plain retarded. Clearly you don't actually know what the word immature means - fucking stupid choice of word. Contradictory would be more appropriate. So have you never gone back on your word at some point in your life? YOU do not know the real reasons why Cornell left, so hop off your high-horse and show so objectivity.

Oh, and since you are new here, I'll let the 'pussy' comment go, clearly you didn't know that name calling is frowned upon round here. That said, calling someone a 'pussy' just because they disagree with you is pretty damn immature in my book. Since you are having trouble understanding the word, I thought I would help you out: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/immature

And not owning one of their albums, please. I have all of their albums, I bought their self-titled cd back in '94, saw them live for the first time in '96. Grow the fuck up.

well obviously i still know more about the forum then you because you called me immature first. i'll take your definition "2. emotionally undeveloped; juvenile; childish." it isn't a retarded choice of a word. they were too childish to get over their little fight before they toured. and again, you called me immature first, and i said "chill out bro" that doesn't sound like name calling. o and i am being realistic, are you a paid member of the audioslave fan club? do you know shit about audioslave behind the scenes?

o and now that i think about it, you're so fucking hung up on the word immature that it doesn't really look like you have anything else behind your argument besides that "stupid fucking choice of words". o, and don't assume you know shit about my age. obviously you're still in that age group where being called immature is cause for a temper tantrum! seriously dude, you started this argument not me, so take some fucking midol.

enharmonic

They didn't tour because Chris and the drummer both had new babies at home. also, they had recorded and toured virtually nonstop for their first 3 years.

If you've ever toured...even for a week...you know how much it can take out of you. Add to that the responsibilities of a family, and I think that the fans were spoiled by their work ethic. A band hasn't really done it like that on their level since the 70s.

Get Ready for Eddy

enharmonic wrote:

They didn't tour because Chris and the drummer both had new babies at home. also, they had recorded and toured virtually nonstop for their first 3 years.

If you've ever toured...even for a week...you know how much it can take out of you. Add to that the responsibilities of a family, and I think that the fans were spoiled by their work ethic. A band hasn't really done it like that on their level since the 70s.

that's true. both of them do have new babies and i guess they didn't expect that last year when they announced the tour for spring lol. still, i don't think that's cause for breaking up the whole band--not touring maybe, but not the break up

reversedarwinism

hopefully this isn't a breakup. i haven't read it anywhere other than here including their sites. maybe they'll tour later.

enharmonic

reversedarwinism wrote:

hopefully this isn't a breakup. i haven't read it anywhere other than here including their sites. maybe they'll tour later.

If Chris said he's done, they're done. He had an official release about it. Told the fans before the band allegedly...said that they were finding out just like the press.

harmless_little_f***

I've now read it in an English Kerrang! article, so I'm guessing it's official.

Tbh about the breakup, I was thinking 'Great, now Cornell can make good music'. And then I read that Tom Morello was working on a solo under the name of his 'alter-ego' The Night Watchman, and I nearly puked.