So now that Libertad is officially released...

DOSW
DOSW Posts: 2,014
edited July 2007 in Other Music
What do you think of it?

I went out to Best Buy this morning and picked up the special edition that came with a bonus DVD. I haven't heard much from it before except for a live performance of a few songs on the interweb (I didn't listen to the leak either). I gotta say that I'm very satisfied. It's basically what I've been expecting.... and considering I've been expecting A LOT out of this new album, I really like it. A few songs seem kind of bland and unoriginal, but for the most part it's one hell of a rock album. Listening to it kind of feels like a punch to the gut- in a good way, of course. :D And naturally Brendan O'Brien NAILED the production on this one. It's amazing what good production can do... Contraband would have been a lot better if he were behind that too. And no exaggeration here... I can't think of many better hard-rock songs than 'She Builds Quick Machines' that have been made in the last decade.

I'd say the main problems with the album are it's lyrics (a lot of them are on the Van Halen or AC/DC level) and that sometimes the song structures are repeated too often... verse-chorus-verse-chorus-bridge-solo-chorus is too predictable at times.

I can't wait to get home from work and listen to it some more. Musically it's a lot deeper than you would think. I also can't wait to see them and AiC at the Tweeter Center in August. That will be one hell of a way to end the summer.
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  • I love it! I'd give it a 8.5/10 personally.
  • It's better than Contraband, and I loved Contraband. It's the Purple of 2007 in some respects. Least that's what I'm hearing.. 9.5/10.

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  • DaytimeDilemma
    DaytimeDilemma Posts: 2,008
    Had no clue that Velvet Revolver were actually releasing another album and for sure had no clue it came out today.
  • jdub3001
    jdub3001 Posts: 194
    I picked it up during lunch today, but have only gotten thru Pills, Demons & Etc. I've got some driving around to do this evening, so I'll be able to listen to it at least twice while in the car. So far, it is as good as Contraband, but that one took me a few listens before I was really digging it, so I'm expecting it to take a couple days before I am really in to Libertad as well....
  • holtz
    holtz Posts: 509
    Its good but not great, way better than Contraband, which really isn't saying much as that record sucked. THe only song I really don't like is American Man, the ELO cover though is kinda pointless.
  • DCGARDEN
    DCGARDEN Posts: 515
    It's not as good as I thought it would be.

    There are a few tunes that I like ( Pills,Demons / For a Brother ) but it's basically just Contraband re-worked into a few new songs.

    What I was hoping for was a Slash dominated album that brought me back to the Use your Illusion days, but I don't feel he made his mark on this one, and it's basically about as good as most of the STP albums, which is fine, but I wanted a little more.

    The song " This fight, or last fight whatever, could be a huge , huge radio hit in the near future.
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  • r2g2
    r2g2 Posts: 66
    subpar at best.
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  • TheEvolution
    TheEvolution Posts: 143
    I really enjoyed it, it is as good as Contraband but totally different. this album seems to groove much more. Let it Roll, She Mine, Get Out the Door, SBQM, Last Fight, Just Sixteen, Spay, and Gravedancer are the album highlights for me. Let it Roll is a great song to open a album with. and Gravedancer is a great way to close it. Kind of a Kitchenware and Candybars slow melodic vibe to it, Brenen O'Brian always knows what songs to open and close with. American Man is the only real filler on the album ,the other songs are ok and will probably grow on me. But def a great album from a great band

    9.2/10-a few songs away from a true modern rock masterpiece
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  • rhcpjam1029
    rhcpjam1029 Posts: 1,982
    DOSW wrote:
    What do you think of it?

    I went out to Best Buy this morning and picked up the special edition that came with a bonus DVD. I haven't heard much from it before except for a live performance of a few songs on the interweb (I didn't listen to the leak either). I gotta say that I'm very satisfied. It's basically what I've been expecting.... and considering I've been expecting A LOT out of this new album, I really like it. A few songs seem kind of bland and unoriginal, but for the most part it's one hell of a rock album. Listening to it kind of feels like a punch to the gut- in a good way, of course. :D And naturally Brendan O'Brien NAILED the production on this one. It's amazing what good production can do... Contraband would have been a lot better if he were behind that too. And no exaggeration here... I can't think of many better hard-rock songs than 'She Builds Quick Machines' that have been made in the last decade.

    I'd say the main problems with the album are it's lyrics (a lot of them are on the Van Halen or AC/DC level) and that sometimes the song structures are repeated too often... verse-chorus-verse-chorus-bridge-solo-chorus is too predictable at times.

    I can't wait to get home from work and listen to it some more. Musically it's a lot deeper than you would think. I also can't wait to see them and AiC at the Tweeter Center in August. That will be one hell of a way to end the summer.

    I also ordered the deluxe edition from Best Buy...but haven't gotten it yet. Anyone who did get...have you watched the DVD yet? Is it good? Has anyone ever seen them live? I've heard mixed reviews about them live; instrumentally they're very good, though fall short vocally. I can't wait to see them with AIC!!! Is that like a dream come true or what?
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  • Matty Boy
    Matty Boy Posts: 421
    I really wanted to like it but it's just not that good. I downloaded it a few weeks ago and I was bored of it within a couple days. It's back to waiting for "Chinese Democracy" for me.
  • melodyman22
    melodyman22 Posts: 326
    Libertad kicks fucking ass. Great songs from start to finish. As good as Contraband to early to tell. But everyone go out and get it. Vr put on one of the best live shows you'll see. Scotts voice n dancing are amazing, plus Slash we all know how great he is. This is the best album of the year hands down.
  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    I'm picking it up tomorrow. Damn I wish I could go see them in Montreal.
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  • Trailer
    Trailer Posts: 1,431
    Upon first listen I'd say that it is good, but doesn't have the songwriting of Contraband. On the other hand, the production seems to be better... thanks to Brendan.
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  • Thierry Henry
    Thierry Henry Posts: 2,657
    I also ordered the deluxe edition from Best Buy...but haven't gotten it yet. Anyone who did get...have you watched the DVD yet? Is it good? Has anyone ever seen them live? I've heard mixed reviews about them live; instrumentally they're very good, though fall short vocally. I can't wait to see them with AIC!!! Is that like a dream come true or what?


    Yeah, is it worth buying the DVD version.

    Whats the DVD like??
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  • DOSW
    DOSW Posts: 2,014
    After listening to Libertad a little more, the only song that I'm not really digging is She Mine, which I can't stand because of it's god-awful chorus. But on the other hand, almost every other song is getting better as I get more familiar with them.

    Bottom line, this album kicks serious ass. Played out of good speakers at LOUD volumes it's like pure bliss. It's the perfect summer album imo.
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  • DOSW
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    I also ordered the deluxe edition from Best Buy...but haven't gotten it yet. Anyone who did get...have you watched the DVD yet? Is it good? Has anyone ever seen them live? I've heard mixed reviews about them live; instrumentally they're very good, though fall short vocally. I can't wait to see them with AIC!!! Is that like a dream come true or what?

    The bonus DVD is pretty cool considering it's only $5 extra. It's about a half hour long, includes live performances of a few songs in South America and a lot of behind the scenes stuff. It kinda sucks that they don't have Slither on it though... you can tell they played it because when they walk off stage you can hear the siren blaring.

    Check out this video to understand why I'm upset Slither isn't on the DVD:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS93PUjjhAg

    :D
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  • stonesgstring
    stonesgstring Posts: 4,613
    Picked up a copy on holiday and from what I've heard of it, only bits, it seems very good.
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  • LedZepFan
    LedZepFan Posts: 1,009
    i like it though there are surely some weak links (as there were on any STP album and GNR album)

    Now, speaking as someone who loves STP and is not as big a fan of GNR, i like the hints of Scott's past that are coming through here. "American Man" sounds more like an STP rock song which is cool. Really dig some of the straight up rock songs, even though they are very by-the-numbers in a way. "Let It Roll" is great. "She Mine" and "Get Out the Door" are solid. "Mary Mary" is extremely infectious. The ELO cover is an odd choice and I'm disappointed they put that on the album.

    I have to say though, "Gravedance" is amazing. Absolute peak of the album. Really blew me away. Again, reminds me of STP. I hope Weiland goes more in this direction later on with his solo album and whatever he does next.
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  • DCGARDEN
    DCGARDEN Posts: 515
    VR are beginning to sound more and more like a re-incarnation of STP, and I wish they sounded more like Guns N Roses, personally.
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  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    Just watched the DVD, its cool.

    Listening to the record now, pretty solid stuff! I'll have a full review soon enough!
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