RHCP-Another reason we love PJ
Mickey1794
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Did anyone happen to see RHCP in San Diego or LA this last week? I was truly disappointed in their shows this time around. Don't get me wrong because they played their music awesome except that they only played 1:45 the first night-which I thought they had ended the show early because hundreds of people began rushing the floor. But then in LA night 1 they only played 1:50. On top of that, it was almost exactly the same set list both nights in the same order! They only played three different songs in LA. Also, on each night they only played 7 songs from their new album out of 28 songs! How can this be possible? I mean I appreciate them playing old music but I really wanted to hear some of the deeper songs like Animal Bar, So Much I, Death of a Martian, Hard to Concentrate, etc. I felt like I was at a commercialized Madonna tour or something. They even wore the same clothes. This is why I love (and you love) PJ because you never know what your going to get. Every night they have a special surprise for us. And can you imagine them only playing 1:45. That amount of time is for a new band like The Killers or something not for 20 year veterans like RHCP. I still love them but they made me really appreciate everything my favorite band PJ has to offer.
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Warning: Not for the faint of heart..
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No one does a mixed set list on the globe. The Who dont do it, U2 dont do it, the Stones dont do it, The Chilis dont do it. I actually liked the Chilis set. I would never go see their show twice in a row though and id see twenty PJ shows in a row no problem. Its just a different approach.
PJ has made their name on their touring largely because their albums have not sold well in many years, including the current album. Stadium Arcadium, which is not a great album, is selling bazillions of units while Avocado is........well.........Gone.
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Its just a fact. PJ shows up every night with a new show. Thats why we fork out loads of dough to see like 5 shows in a tour. The Chilis were great man. Flea and Johnny are on top of their game. Just because they did not play 30 songs does not mean they did not do a good show....Its just not a show you need to see twice.
I dont think the Chilis could pull off a 2 and a half hour show. You would get lost and the schtick would get old.
i took a friend to the virginia show in 03, he was a casual pj fan, thought they were good overall but didn't really listen to them and while he thought they were good thought they were also overhyped...he even made joke about the sign saying you could order the boot of the show...he was completely blown away and as we were leaving said the first thing he was gonna do when he got home was order the boot!
pj are just so damned tight as a band and they don't have a single weak member.
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
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I used to like RHCP very much, and I had high hopes after Californication, but I have not liked these last 2 records at all.
well said. I mean cmon. Also....1:50 is pretty good. Very fey bands play 2+ hours.
ALSO, a band should not have to anticipate that it will be the same crowd each night. They play different venues / cities for a reason....to cover more of their fan base and give everyone a chance to see them play. otherwise, you would only see a band hi 8 cities, 4 times each istead of 32 cities.
And I won't make the same mistakes
(Because I know)
Because I know how much time that wastes
(And function)
Function is the key
On the other hand, Pearl Jam tends to play the same venue more then one night (often several nights in a row) because they know people want to see them more than once.
LOL I just want him to wear his skeleton suit sometime at a show I see.
But I know what the original poster means. I like the RHCP - I don't like their newer stuff quite as much, but I make it a point to see them 1-2x per tour. That amount is enough - I don't need to travel all around to see basically the same show every night. But they're a good band and worth seeing, and I always look forward to seeing frusciante and flea. We're on John's side in Montreal, and on the floor in Quebec C. Is John sitting on speakers with extended jams this tour anyone?
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I don't think RHCP could even handle 3 hour changing setlists on a consistent basis. To the listener it would get old because 1) Unless they practice their asses off I doubt they even know how to play half of their catalog live. They make a lot of mistakes on songs they've played a million times 2) John Frusciante is better in the studio and so is Anthony. As much as I hate to say it 2 hours is enough. The band is like a brotherhood yet they can't seem to tap into their collective purpose while together on a stage.
also because they have extremely loyal fans, but do not have as large of a fan base as many bands...as they don't overly play into the media games.
And I won't make the same mistakes
(Because I know)
Because I know how much time that wastes
(And function)
Function is the key
That sounds great - they did the London Calling intro on the last tour cycle (2003) too - I forget which song they segued into after though.
R.i.p. My Dad - May 28, 2007
R.i.p. Black Tail (cat) - Sept. 20, 2008
I have not seen the RHCP but i am seeing them this fall i'm excited to finally check them out.
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The Chili Peppers are a good reason for us loving PJ as much as we do, you got that right, I'm sure we all know the history about Jack giving Eddie the demo tape then reccomending PJ to the Chilis as an opening act for them, which really put PJ on the map, so yes the Chilis are a good reason to love Pearl Jam.
As for the generic repetitive setlist, I'm affraid PJ spoil us with their willingness to change their set up night to night as much as they do, RHCP are in the majority playing a fairly repetitive set like they do, there's only a handfull of bands that mix the sets up like PJ.
As for the Chilis approach to releasing their music, yes it is more commercial, they work on a different philosophy to PJ again here.
They want as many people to hear their records as possible and therefore they use all the advertising options they can, also this comes down to the recording contract though and the obligations they have commited to, unlike PJ who are more selective and involved in the promotion of their music.
To me personally I dont give a fuck about none of this shit as long as I enjoy the music and I enjoy the music of both these bands.:)
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I can imagine. Another boring, unoriginal rock band?
Nobody is as original and unique as the Chili Peppers.