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haashaas Posts: 46
edited May 2008 in Other Music
Just need a little help... anyone own this song... i have downloaded it severl times and it is distorted 2/3 of the way in... is this the song or am i getting a bad itunes download???
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  • Marie CurieMarie Curie Posts: 1,250
    The song is supposed to be this way
    “Life is life everywhere. Life is in ourselves and not outside us. There will be men beside me, and the important thing is to be a man among men and to remain a man always, whatever the misfortunes, not to despair and not to fall - that is the aim of life, that is its purpose.”
    Fyodor Dostoyevsky
  • justamjustam Posts: 21,408
    That's part of the song...I think it is expressing how the picture isn't the whole story...something is brewing underneath. :)
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  • restlesssoulrestlesssoul Posts: 6,951
    haas wrote:
    . i have downloaded it severl times and it is distorted 2/3 of the way in...


    hahah thats funny...ive never really like that distortion there either.
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  • haashaas Posts: 46
    Ok so I get the prupose now... although I too dont like it in the song... Their live version isnt so....
  • memememe Posts: 4,695
    This is hilarious.

    I was THIS close to buying a used S/K CD last weekend, but then decided against it :p
    ... and the will to show I will always be better than before.
  • justamjustam Posts: 21,408
    meme wrote:
    This is hilarious.

    I was THIS close to buying a used S/K CD last weekend, but then decided against it :p

    The cd is good though.
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  • haashaas Posts: 46
    meme wrote:
    This is hilarious.

    I was THIS close to buying a used S/K CD last weekend, but then decided against it :p
    What stopped you?
  • memememe Posts: 4,695
    haas wrote:
    What stopped you?

    Things like mid-song distortions ;)

    I have tried pretty hard to like those girls, but I think I have given up :)
    ... and the will to show I will always be better than before.
  • 1STmammal2wearPants1STmammal2wearPants Posts: 2,938
    meme wrote:
    Things like mid-song distortions ;)

    You mean it was that and not her voice that stopped you? :)
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  • memememe Posts: 4,695
    1STmammal2wearPants wrote:
    You mean it was that and not her voice that stopped you? :)

    I file her voice under mid-song distortions :p
    ... and the will to show I will always be better than before.
  • ii44ii44 Posts: 430
    The production on the record is awful. Is had to be the loudest CD I own.
  • Marie CurieMarie Curie Posts: 1,250
    ii44 wrote:
    The production on the record is awful. Is had to be the loudest CD I own.


    It's supposed to be loud!
    The Woods is an amazing album!
    “Life is life everywhere. Life is in ourselves and not outside us. There will be men beside me, and the important thing is to be a man among men and to remain a man always, whatever the misfortunes, not to despair and not to fall - that is the aim of life, that is its purpose.”
    Fyodor Dostoyevsky
  • Rhinocerous SurpriseRhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    ii44 wrote:
    The production on the record is awful. Is had to be the loudest CD I own.

    I think they were deliberately trying to make it as rough and abrasive as possible. After four or five albums of the same clean, polished production, they needed to shake it up.
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  • digsterdigster Posts: 1,293
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    I think they were deliberately trying to make it as rough and abrasive as possible. After four or five albums of the same clean, polished production, they needed to shake it up.

    This album has the good kind of distortion; you can hear that it was distorted because they had the amps heavily overdriven. It's not like the digital distortion you hear on Springsteen's Magic or Avocado, where they push the song into the red on the computer just so it'll be loud in comparison to everything on the radio.
  • ii44ii44 Posts: 430
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    I think they were deliberately trying to make it as rough and abrasive as possible. After four or five albums of the same clean, polished production, they needed to shake it up.

    Yes, yes, I got that but it's LOUD to the point that if I have my player on random I have to grab the switch and turn it down. Records that are like that sound bad.
  • Rhinocerous SurpriseRhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    ii44 wrote:
    Yes, yes, I got that but it's LOUD to the point that if I have my player on random I have to grab the switch and turn it down. Records that are like that loud sound bad.

    Play it on vinyl, and it makes wonderful sense. :)
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  • intodeepintodeep Posts: 7,228
    If i made a top 20 albums of 00's i would put the woods on it probably and i like a lot of music that has come out this decade.
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  • ii44ii44 Posts: 430
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    Play it on vinyl, and it makes wonderful sense. :)

    I'm sure that'll be cheap and easy to find.
  • orig_long redorig_long red Posts: 2,029
    The Woods is an awesome album. If they had cocks instead of tits and vaginas, it would be considered one of the best rock albums of the past 20 years.
    Jam out with your clam out.
  • Rhinocerous SurpriseRhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    ii44 wrote:
    I'm sure that'll be cheap and easy to find.

    I found it in Tower Records for 20 Euro. Not bad.
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  • justamjustam Posts: 21,408
    ii44 wrote:
    Yes, yes, I got that but it's LOUD to the point that if I have my player on random I have to grab the switch and turn it down. Records that are like that sound bad.

    double post
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  • justamjustam Posts: 21,408
    ii44 wrote:
    Yes, yes, I got that but it's LOUD to the point that if I have my player on random I have to grab the switch and turn it down. Records that are like that sound bad.

    Yeah, but there's a precedent for that in punk rock. I can remember songs by the Sex Pistols (I think?) that started so soft the first time you played the record you'd turn it way up and then, LOW AND BELHOLD THE DAMN SONG WOULD REALLY START AND IT WAS [size=+2]SO FUCKING LOUD!!!!!!!![/size] :D
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  • ii44ii44 Posts: 430
    justam wrote:
    Yeah, but there's a precedent for that in punk rock. I can remember songs by the Sex Pistols (I think?) that started so soft the first time you played the record you'd turn it way up and then, LOW AND BELHOLD THE DAMN SONG WOULD REALLY START AND IT WAS [size=+2]SO FUCKING LOUD!!!!!!!![/size] :D

    I'm not talking about how heavy the music is or how much distortion they're playing with, I'm talking about the way the CD was mastered: loud as is loudness wars. For example, Soundgarden has nice quiet CDs; this is the opposite. It's far and away the loudest disc I own, even louder than Californication.
  • Rhinocerous SurpriseRhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    ii44 wrote:
    I'm not talking about how heavy the music is, I'm talking about the way the CD was mastered: loud as is loudness wars. Soundgarden has nice quiet CDs, this is the opposite. It's far and away the loudest disc I own, even louder than Californication.

    I think what we're trying to say is that it wasn't part of the loudness war - it was a genuine stylistic choice. But I can respect that you don't like that choice. :)
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  • ii44ii44 Posts: 430
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    I think what we're trying to say is that it wasn't part of the loudness war - it was a genuine stylistic choice. But I can respect that you don't like that choice. :)

    That surprises me. I love the songs but I hate the production. It's really taxing on the ears.
  • ii44ii44 Posts: 430
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    I think what we're trying to say is that it wasn't part of the loudness war - it was a genuine stylistic choice. But I can respect that you don't like that choice. :)

    Take for example any good version of the Fox that you'd find on Youtube. It starts it with that heavy distorted riff and gets real real quiet during the verse, the contrast makes the song all the more powerful. You don't get that on the record and it really takes away from the song's impact. I just am rather surprised that this would be done on purpose.
  • Rhinocerous SurpriseRhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    ii44 wrote:
    That surprises me. I love the songs but I hate the production. It's really taxing on the ears.

    For me, it's impossible to separate the songs from the production - that bleeding-ear volume is as much a part of The Fox as Corin's "Land ho". The steadily building distortions on Modern Girl reflect the narrator's worldview crumbling around her as much as the lyrics do.

    The sad part is, they probably would have found a glorious medium between The Woods and One Beat if they had made one more record. :o
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  • Marie CurieMarie Curie Posts: 1,250
    ii44 wrote:
    That surprises me. I love the songs but I hate the production. It's really taxing on the ears.

    I didn`t like the production too when I first listened to the album, but I think it`s a matter of getting used to it. I absolutely love it now.
    “Life is life everywhere. Life is in ourselves and not outside us. There will be men beside me, and the important thing is to be a man among men and to remain a man always, whatever the misfortunes, not to despair and not to fall - that is the aim of life, that is its purpose.”
    Fyodor Dostoyevsky
  • digsterdigster Posts: 1,293
    ii44 wrote:
    I'm not talking about how heavy the music is or how much distortion they're playing with, I'm talking about the way the CD was mastered: loud as is loudness wars. For example, Soundgarden has nice quiet CDs; this is the opposite. It's far and away the loudest disc I own, even louder than Californication.

    Funny, I've listened to The Woods many times, I don't hear it being a casualty of the Loudness Wars, as you put it. There's distortion, but it's natural distortion; I believe the entire album was made using analog equipment. I hear overdriven amps, not digital distortion. When I think of the loudness wars, I think of clipping and no differentiation between instruments; I hear none of that in The Woods; it's a loud and very abrasive rock record, but it doesn't grate on me in the sense that Magic, Avocado, and Accelerate by R.E.M. Those are just digitally mastered to compete with rock radio. I don't hear that in The Woods.
  • ii44ii44 Posts: 430
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    For me, it's impossible to separate the songs from the production - that bleeding-ear volume is as much a part of The Fox as Corin's "Land ho". The steadily building distortions on Modern Girl reflect the narrator's worldview crumbling around her as much as the lyrics do.

    The sad part is, they probably would have found a glorious medium between The Woods and One Beat if they had made one more record. :o

    I understand the effects that song.
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