Quit saying dirty south. Last time I checked PJ wasn't a rap group...
Rap and the Dirty South?? I don't get the connection...my rap knowledge doesn't go any deeper than Public Enemy or Ice-T.....Rhinomagic is 100% correct..my (and ours) use of the phrase, "The Dirty South", is related to one of the hardest working bands in the business, The Drive-by Truckers."
Dangerboy, we cool. Please always remember what they say about the best laid plans of mice and men.....JTR is being truthful based on what he knows, and Pearl Jam is a big business that can change its plans based on a dime. As in any business, all of the partners may not be on the same page at the same time.
Spalma, thanks for your continued coolness.
The Dirty South...who will end up with our records, who will end up with our tapes???
All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
The Dirty South...who will end up with our records, who will end up with our tapes???
"You can have my records when you pry them from my cold, dead hands."
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Memphis 1994 New Orleans 1995 Fort Lauderdale 1996 Atlanta & Birmingham 1998 New Orleans 2000 Tampa 2003 Kissimmee 2004 New York City (x 2) 2008 East Troy (x 2) 2011 Chicago & New Orleans 2013 Hampton, Raleigh, Boston 2016 Baltimore2020 Louisville 2022 Philadelphia & Baltimore 2024
I did learn my lesson last year not to say anything until I have it in my hands. All I want to say on this is that I hope no one felt somehow I was TRYING to string people along for kicks, I really had been told it was coming. I think that is the important point. It was absolutely nothing intentional. I am certain if we all could ever get together over a cold beer this would all iron right out.
Next time, instead of being cagey, I will wait until I have something very concrete in my hands that I can e-mail out.
I will tell you that I sat a row below Kelly Curtis at the Vic Theater show and I asked him plans for 2008 and he said "a festival or two, maybe some political stuff, and an Ed solo tour - that's about it until they put together some material".
Dangerboy, I think we give everyone on this thread the benefit of the doubt. We know that PJ did make moves to play the south at some point and back pedaled out of it. Reports came from various people - (including me thru a local guy in radio who had NEVER steered me wrong before).
Ther is no need to single any one person out to call bullshit. It was a frustrating time, but I believe no one was being malicious. We were all just surprised by PJ's apparent fickleness and angered by the BAND's lack of communication. I blame the band for settling for corporate decisions.
JTR's games were actually fun... I did not take offense. Nor did I actually pin any hopes to benefit by his influence or contacts.
I supposed I am ever more guarded when dealing with electronic personas... it is not exactly real. All the more reason to make that personal contact and break those barriers - perhaps at a concert
(It may just have to be a Drive-By-Truckers concert)
playthedirtysouth
tourthedirtysouth
i understand where y'all are coming from, i only hope you get where i'm coming from...
i will say that the only reason i single out jtr is because he singled himself out. claimed that his info was unimpeachable. demanded apologies when all his info turned out to be true (which it never did). promised to do this and that and renegged. he upped the expectation bar himself. i think when someone does this, it's only right to hold their feet to the fire...
maybe i'm alone. maybe it was just me who rode his emotional roller coaster only to be let down time and time again. i can drop it if everyone would rather i did, and just keep it to myself
I did learn my lesson last year not to say anything until I have it in my hands. All I want to say on this is that I hope no one felt somehow I was TRYING to string people along for kicks, I really had been told it was coming. I think that is the important point. It was absolutely nothing intentional. I am certain if we all could ever get together over a cold beer this would all iron right out.
Next time, instead of being cagey, I will wait until I have something very concrete in my hands that I can e-mail out.
Can we move on to something positive?
Like a TenClub Ryman show? (stop!!)
JR
Long time no post so I figured I would say hello after reading this past weeks posts. Last year was fun and a disappointment but I don't think anyone in here is trying or ever tried to deceive anyone.
So moving on to more positive things sounds good...but not as good as a Ten Club show at the Ryman sounds. Now that would be cool.
Seeing visions of falling up somehow.
Pensacola '94 New Orleans '95 Birmingham '98 New Orleans '00 New Orleans '03 Tampa '08 New Orleans '10 - Jazzfest New Orleans '16 - Jazzfest Fenway Park '18 St. Louis '22
i understand where y'all are coming from, i only hope you get where i'm coming from...
i will say that the only reason i single out jtr is because he singled himself out. claimed that his info was unimpeachable. demanded apologies when all his info turned out to be true (which it never did). promised to do this and that and renegged. he upped the expectation bar himself. i think when someone does this, it's only right to hold their feet to the fire...
maybe i'm alone. maybe it was just me who rode his emotional roller coaster only to be let down time and time again. i can drop it if everyone would rather i did, and just keep it to myself
Take JR (the man) out of the equation and see that we all share the same traits. We all participated... and it was not all bad.
We all rode the rollercoaster, we all shared what info/hopes we had, we all wanted it so badly we wanted to believe. We are human. And we forgive.
The band's corporate whoreness created this situation to begin with. I can say this because I am a corporate whore too. We make decisions that we hate - for the "right" reasons. The band did what they did - I just hope they learned from it.
Meanwhile, I'll check out some other local bands until Pearl Jam comes to us.
tourthesouth
"I don't want to hear any splatty tongues!"
J.M., Jr. High Band Teacher
just like i believe in santa claus...the easter bunny...and the tooth fairy...
i also believe Mike Mccready is going to come over to my house this evening and share his recipe for tuna noodle casserole with me and the wife.....
Surprise. He's telling the truth.
The Dirty South. Where the devil don't stay.
All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
Jeff, come on down to the South for your birthday- we'll show you a good time!
play the south
play Florida
announce a southern tour
can't wait for Bonnaroo!!!!
www.RLMcDaniel.com
1996: Ft Lauderdale
1998: Birmingham
2000: Charlotte, Tampa
2003: Tampa, Atlanta, Phoenix
2004: Kissimmee
2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
2010: MSG2
2012: Music Midtown
2014: Memphis
2016: Ft. Lauderdale, Miami, Jacksonville, JazzFest 2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1 2022: Nashville 2023: Ft. Worth II
The mere mention of the Ryman Auditorium reminds of when I first imagined Pearl Jam playing there.
It would be one of the most significant shows they could play in the South, in my opinion.
Make this happen (as part of a Southern Tour).
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Memphis 1994 New Orleans 1995 Fort Lauderdale 1996 Atlanta & Birmingham 1998 New Orleans 2000 Tampa 2003 Kissimmee 2004 New York City (x 2) 2008 East Troy (x 2) 2011 Chicago & New Orleans 2013 Hampton, Raleigh, Boston 2016 Baltimore2020 Louisville 2022 Philadelphia & Baltimore 2024
Who will stand there taking credit, who will lay there passing blame?
playthedirtysouth
tourthedirtysouth
My wife's favorite DBT song:D
The Dirty South We don't pass the blame.
All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
However, I think you would be wise to understand that tybird (and many others of us here) enjoy the music of the Drive-By Truckers. Said band happens to have a cd entitled The Dirty South. Give it a spin and see if you don't dig it the most.
The Dirty South...it ain't braggin' if it's true.
.
My sincere appologies. That phrase just gets OLD living here in atlanta. And I will check the album out for sure.
My sincere appologies. That phrase just gets OLD living here in atlanta. And I will check the album out for sure.
No problem....the band is actually based out of Athens....just up the road from 'ya.
The Dirty South See Ruby Falls.
All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
No problem....the band is actually based out of Athens....just up the road from 'ya.
The Dirty South See Ruby Falls.
Doesn't DBT have soom roots in Huntsville/North AL? I thought I remembered that from somewhere way back.
"Hell no, we ain't happy" without Pearl Jam shows.
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Memphis 1994 New Orleans 1995 Fort Lauderdale 1996 Atlanta & Birmingham 1998 New Orleans 2000 Tampa 2003 Kissimmee 2004 New York City (x 2) 2008 East Troy (x 2) 2011 Chicago & New Orleans 2013 Hampton, Raleigh, Boston 2016 Baltimore2020 Louisville 2022 Philadelphia & Baltimore 2024
Doesn't DBT have soom roots in Huntsville/North AL? I thought I remembered that from somewhere way back.
"Hell no, we ain't happy" without Pearl Jam shows.
.
Shonna, Patterson and Cooley are all from Northeast Alabama...as was Jason. They're from the Quad cities area which includes Muscle Shoals...famous for its recording studios.
The Dirty South Home of that Muscle Shoals sound.
All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
Shonna, Patterson and Cooley are all from Northeast Alabama...as was Jason. They're from the Quad cities area which includes Muscle Shoals...famous for its recording studios.
The Dirty South Home of that Muscle Shoals sound.
Ah, yes. Muscle Shoals. But that's northWEST, isn't it? I grew up in north MS and we made field trips to Helen Keller's home and the Quad Cities.
According to wikipedia, Patterson Hood's father played bass in the Muscle Shoals Sound Rhythm Section.
But give me Stax Records and the Memphis sound anyday, in terms of a vintage Southern music scene.
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Memphis 1994 New Orleans 1995 Fort Lauderdale 1996 Atlanta & Birmingham 1998 New Orleans 2000 Tampa 2003 Kissimmee 2004 New York City (x 2) 2008 East Troy (x 2) 2011 Chicago & New Orleans 2013 Hampton, Raleigh, Boston 2016 Baltimore2020 Louisville 2022 Philadelphia & Baltimore 2024
Ah, yes. Muscle Shoals. But that's northWEST, isn't it? I grew up in north MS and we made field trips to Helen Keller's home and the Quad Cities.
According to wikipedia, Patterson Hood's father played bass in the Muscle Shoals Sound Rhythm Section.
But give me Stax Records and the Memphis sound anyday, in terms of a vintage Southern music scene.
.
Damn....I meant northwest, but typed northeast....you are correct. I can drive there all day, but I misspoke when it came to giving directions. :rolleyes:
Minus 5 points for the bird.
The Dirty South...where American music was born.
All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
i understand where y'all are coming from, i only hope you get where i'm coming from...
i will say that the only reason i single out jtr is because he singled himself out. claimed that his info was unimpeachable. demanded apologies when all his info turned out to be true (which it never did). promised to do this and that and renegged. he upped the expectation bar himself. i think when someone does this, it's only right to hold their feet to the fire...
maybe i'm alone. maybe it was just me who rode his emotional roller coaster only to be let down time and time again. i can drop it if everyone would rather i did, and just keep it to myself
No, you are not alone, I shared (share) your feelings. It's tough getting your hopes up like that and then getting shut out. I built a bridge about the tour (I'm still pissed but not so much) so I guess I can get over JTR as well. Maybe a cold beer together would help ALL of us out. So,
PLAY THE SOUTH THIS YEAR!!!!!!!
SO WE CAN ALL MEET AND ENJOY!!
Pat
Atlanta 3/94
Charleston 10/96
Greenville 4/98
Charlotte 8/00
Charlotte 4/03
Gorge I & II 7/06
Columbia 6/08
Jazz Festival 5/10
Noblesville 5/10
Ft. Lauderdale 96'
Tampa 00'
West Palm Beach 03'
House of Blues 03'
Tampa 03'
Kissimmee 04'
West Palm Beach 08'
Tampa 08'
Eddie Vedder Clearwater both nights 2012
1996: Ft Lauderdale
1998: Birmingham
2000: Charlotte, Tampa
2003: Tampa, Atlanta, Phoenix
2004: Kissimmee
2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
2010: MSG2
2012: Music Midtown
2014: Memphis
2016: Ft. Lauderdale, Miami, Jacksonville, JazzFest 2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1 2022: Nashville 2023: Ft. Worth II
The Dirty South...because nobody does it better, makes me feel sad for the rest.
All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
Comments
Dangerboy, we cool. Please always remember what they say about the best laid plans of mice and men.....JTR is being truthful based on what he knows, and Pearl Jam is a big business that can change its plans based on a dime. As in any business, all of the partners may not be on the same page at the same time.
Spalma, thanks for your continued coolness.
The Dirty South...who will end up with our records, who will end up with our tapes???
"You can have my records when you pry them from my cold, dead hands."
.
New Orleans 1995
Fort Lauderdale 1996
Atlanta & Birmingham 1998
New Orleans 2000
Tampa 2003
Kissimmee 2004
New York City (x 2) 2008
East Troy (x 2) 2011
Chicago & New Orleans 2013
Hampton, Raleigh, Boston 2016
Baltimore 2020
Louisville 2022
Philadelphia & Baltimore 2024
Next time, instead of being cagey, I will wait until I have something very concrete in my hands that I can e-mail out.
Can we move on to something positive?
Like a TenClub Ryman show? (stop!!)
JR
playthedirtysouth
tourthedurtysouth
J.M., Jr. High Band Teacher
I raise my Freak Flag High!!
OH I BELIEVE YOU.....
just like i believe in santa claus...the easter bunny...and the tooth fairy...
i also believe Mike Mccready is going to come over to my house this evening and share his recipe for tuna noodle casserole with me and the wife.....
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Have fun all you lucky ones going to bonaroo.
playthesouth
tourthesouth
J.M., Jr. High Band Teacher
I raise my Freak Flag High!!
i understand where y'all are coming from, i only hope you get where i'm coming from...
i will say that the only reason i single out jtr is because he singled himself out. claimed that his info was unimpeachable. demanded apologies when all his info turned out to be true (which it never did). promised to do this and that and renegged. he upped the expectation bar himself. i think when someone does this, it's only right to hold their feet to the fire...
maybe i'm alone. maybe it was just me who rode his emotional roller coaster only to be let down time and time again. i can drop it if everyone would rather i did, and just keep it to myself
ebay isn't evil people are
The South is Much Obliged
Long time no post so I figured I would say hello after reading this past weeks posts. Last year was fun and a disappointment but I don't think anyone in here is trying or ever tried to deceive anyone.
So moving on to more positive things sounds good...but not as good as a Ten Club show at the Ryman sounds. Now that would be cool.
Pensacola '94
New Orleans '95
Birmingham '98
New Orleans '00
New Orleans '03
Tampa '08
New Orleans '10 - Jazzfest
New Orleans '16 - Jazzfest
Fenway Park '18
St. Louis '22
Take JR (the man) out of the equation and see that we all share the same traits. We all participated... and it was not all bad.
We all rode the rollercoaster, we all shared what info/hopes we had, we all wanted it so badly we wanted to believe. We are human. And we forgive.
The band's corporate whoreness created this situation to begin with. I can say this because I am a corporate whore too. We make decisions that we hate - for the "right" reasons. The band did what they did - I just hope they learned from it.
Meanwhile, I'll check out some other local bands until Pearl Jam comes to us.
tourthesouth
J.M., Jr. High Band Teacher
I raise my Freak Flag High!!
Shit, Ryman auditorium?? I can't go out of state for a long while.
Now that hurts.
PLAYFUCKINGFLORIDA -WILLYA?
J.M., Jr. High Band Teacher
I raise my Freak Flag High!!
play the ATL
thanks for bonnaroo
Columbia 08
Atlanta 12
Charlotte 13
St Louis 14
Greenville 16
St Louis 22
Seattle 24
The Dirty South. Where the devil don't stay.
playthedirtysouth
tourthedirtysouth
J.M., Jr. High Band Teacher
I raise my Freak Flag High!!
playthedirtysouth
tourthedirtysouth
J.M., Jr. High Band Teacher
I raise my Freak Flag High!!
play the south
play Florida
announce a southern tour
can't wait for Bonnaroo!!!!
1996: Ft Lauderdale
1998: Birmingham
2000: Charlotte, Tampa
2003: Tampa, Atlanta, Phoenix
2004: Kissimmee
2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
2010: MSG2
2012: Music Midtown
2014: Memphis
2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1
2022: Nashville
2023: Ft. Worth II
It would be one of the most significant shows they could play in the South, in my opinion.
Make this happen (as part of a Southern Tour).
.
New Orleans 1995
Fort Lauderdale 1996
Atlanta & Birmingham 1998
New Orleans 2000
Tampa 2003
Kissimmee 2004
New York City (x 2) 2008
East Troy (x 2) 2011
Chicago & New Orleans 2013
Hampton, Raleigh, Boston 2016
Baltimore 2020
Louisville 2022
Philadelphia & Baltimore 2024
The Dirty South We don't pass the blame.
My sincere appologies. That phrase just gets OLD living here in atlanta. And I will check the album out for sure.
The Dirty South See Ruby Falls.
Doesn't DBT have soom roots in Huntsville/North AL? I thought I remembered that from somewhere way back.
"Hell no, we ain't happy" without Pearl Jam shows.
.
New Orleans 1995
Fort Lauderdale 1996
Atlanta & Birmingham 1998
New Orleans 2000
Tampa 2003
Kissimmee 2004
New York City (x 2) 2008
East Troy (x 2) 2011
Chicago & New Orleans 2013
Hampton, Raleigh, Boston 2016
Baltimore 2020
Louisville 2022
Philadelphia & Baltimore 2024
The Dirty South Home of that Muscle Shoals sound.
Ah, yes. Muscle Shoals. But that's northWEST, isn't it? I grew up in north MS and we made field trips to Helen Keller's home and the Quad Cities.
According to wikipedia, Patterson Hood's father played bass in the Muscle Shoals Sound Rhythm Section.
But give me Stax Records and the Memphis sound anyday, in terms of a vintage Southern music scene.
.
New Orleans 1995
Fort Lauderdale 1996
Atlanta & Birmingham 1998
New Orleans 2000
Tampa 2003
Kissimmee 2004
New York City (x 2) 2008
East Troy (x 2) 2011
Chicago & New Orleans 2013
Hampton, Raleigh, Boston 2016
Baltimore 2020
Louisville 2022
Philadelphia & Baltimore 2024
Minus 5 points for the bird.
The Dirty South...where American music was born.
No, you are not alone, I shared (share) your feelings. It's tough getting your hopes up like that and then getting shut out. I built a bridge about the tour (I'm still pissed but not so much) so I guess I can get over JTR as well. Maybe a cold beer together would help ALL of us out. So,
PLAY THE SOUTH THIS YEAR!!!!!!!
SO WE CAN ALL MEET AND ENJOY!!
Pat
Charleston 10/96
Greenville 4/98
Charlotte 8/00
Charlotte 4/03
Gorge I & II 7/06
Columbia 6/08
Jazz Festival 5/10
Noblesville 5/10
Tampa 00'
West Palm Beach 03'
House of Blues 03'
Tampa 03'
Kissimmee 04'
West Palm Beach 08'
Tampa 08'
Eddie Vedder Clearwater both nights 2012
*tennessee*(june12-15)*
*?texas?(sept 26-28)?
louisiana
mississippi
alabama
georgia
florida
south carolina
*?north carolina?(june)?
virginia
ebay isn't evil people are
The South is Much Obliged
play Florida
announce a southern tour
can't wait for Bonnaroo!!!!
1996: Ft Lauderdale
1998: Birmingham
2000: Charlotte, Tampa
2003: Tampa, Atlanta, Phoenix
2004: Kissimmee
2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
2010: MSG2
2012: Music Midtown
2014: Memphis
2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1
2022: Nashville
2023: Ft. Worth II