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Smashing Pumpkins new album named 'Zeitgeist'

KlumpieKlumpie Posts: 2,649
edited February 2007 in Other Music
The Smashing Pumpkins
6th album
'Zeitgeist'
07.07.07

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    chris01chris01 Posts: 559
    Just 5 months to go then....!

    What does 'Zeitgeist' mean?
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    KlumpieKlumpie Posts: 2,649
    era, period, time.

    zeitgeist is German
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    GardenpartyGardenparty Posts: 1,908
    So it's being released on a Saturday?
    “I know this song so well, I can smoke a cigarette, have a drink, brush my teeth, take a shit, and mow the lawn while singing it. But I'll only be doing a couple of those things during this version.”
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    DercheefDercheef Germany Posts: 732
    chris01 wrote:

    What does 'Zeitgeist' mean?
    'Zeitgeist' means 'the spirit of the age'
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    pazmanpazman Posts: 197
    it should perhaps only be an EP.
    Machina was pretty average, there were 5-6 decent songs, of which 3 were brilliant

    This album release personally has 1% of the anticipation levels as the new Kings of Leon album
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    culot4culot4 Posts: 775
    Hopefully the music is better than that title. I have a feeling this thing is going to be a huge flop.
    Once in a while you can get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.
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    lukins fridgelukins fridge Posts: 237
    Smashing Pumpkins Reveal Album Title, Release Date


    Smashing Pumpkins announced via MySpace bulletin this morning that they will release a new album, Zeitgeist, on July 7 of this year. 07-07-07! How'd they land that lucky date? Well kids, it's a Saturday, proving that Billy Corgan, Jimmy Chamberlin, and whoever the hell else is in the band think they are above and beyond the ways of the music industry (most albums come out on Tuesdays, see). Thanks to various reader tips for keeping us posted on this info.


    Since we last reported, the Pumpkins revealed two more European festival dates, one at Nickelsdorf, Austria's Nova Rock Festival, and one at Interlaken, Switzerland's Greenfield Festival.

    Dates:

    06-02 Nuremburg, Germany - Nürburgring (Rock am Park)
    06-03 Nuremburg, Germany - Zeppelinfeld (Rock im Park)
    06-15 Nickelsdorf, Austria - Nova Rock Festival
    06-17 Interlaken, Switzerland - Greenfield Festival

    http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/news/41006/Smashing_Pumpkins_Reveal_Album_Title_Release_Date
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    pazmanpazman Posts: 197
    culot4 wrote:
    Hopefully the music is better than that title. I have a feeling this thing is going to be a huge flop.

    no doubt it'll be a flop
    the Pumpkins last 2 albums are average and Billys solo effort was woeful and its been 10 years since Mellon Collie....
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    sigh eternallysigh eternally Chicago Posts: 421
    *watches tumbleweeds roll by*
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    intodeepintodeep Posts: 7,228
    I'm excited about this. Like Pearl Jam the pumpkins almost have something to prove in that they can still "ROCK".

    I thought the new pearl jam album did that and i'm sure if billy and jimmy set their mind to it they can do it too.
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    Dustin51Dustin51 Posts: 222
    I'm excited about it. It should be good. Dont be a bunch of Negative Nancy's!
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    culot4culot4 Posts: 775
    intodeep wrote:
    I'm excited about this. Like Pearl Jam the pumpkins almost have something to prove in that they can still "ROCK".

    I thought the new pearl jam album did that and i'm sure if billy and jimmy set their mind to it they can do it too.

    If just Eddie Vedder and Matt Cameron went out on the road and called it Pearl Jam it wouldn't be. The Pumpkins had an undeniable chemistry as a four piece, not a two piece. By the way, who are the other members of the reformed Pumpkins. Are they just plugging in anybody and not giving them any credit?
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    Answers_In_PlaydohAnswers_In_Playdoh Posts: 207
    Even though their last few albums weren't really that great, m still looking forward to this one!
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    facepollutionfacepollution Posts: 6,834
    pazman wrote:
    no doubt it'll be a flop
    the Pumpkins last 2 albums are average and Billys solo effort was woeful and its been 10 years since Mellon Collie....

    One of the last Pumpkins songs was that single called 'Untitled' which they recorded for the best of, it was a total return to the kick-ass SP sound, when asked about it Billy said he could always write songs like that, he just liked to experiment. The new album will be wicked.
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    intodeepintodeep Posts: 7,228
    culot4 wrote:
    If just Eddie Vedder and Matt Cameron went out on the road and called it Pearl Jam it wouldn't be. The Pumpkins had an undeniable chemistry as a four piece, not a two piece. By the way, who are the other members of the reformed Pumpkins. Are they just plugging in anybody and not giving them any credit?

    Well i don't consider myself a huge pumpkins fan, but i always felt like Billy was the base of the creative talent there and Jimmy was in my opinion the second most talented member of the band. I could be off base with that.

    I think the bass player from Janes is gonna play on the album a steve perkins? that is the rumor i heard and he is an accomplished player. No knock on Iha, but i'm sure billy could find someone else to keep up with him.

    As to the point about PJ i think the guys in PJ always (esp post vitology) made it a point to write the albums together everyone puts in input.

    With Smashing Pumpkins i think Billy called the shots plus billy was lead singer and lead guitarist. Not like PJ at all.

    So as much as i understand what you are saying i think smashing pumpkins was always Billy's creative vehicle.
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    chrisopaloozachrisopalooza Posts: 347
    fuckin' corgan and his ancient mythology-driven song titles/album titles.
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    chrisopaloozachrisopalooza Posts: 347
    intodeep wrote:
    Well i don't consider myself a huge pumpkins fan, but i always felt like Billy was the base of the creative talent there and Jimmy was in my opinion the second most talented member of the band. I could be off base with that.

    I think the bass player from Janes is gonna play on the album a steve perkins? that is the rumor i heard and he is an accomplished player. No knock on Iha, but i'm sure billy could find someone else to keep up with him.

    As to the point about PJ i think the guys in PJ always (esp post vitology) made it a point to write the albums together everyone puts in input.

    With Smashing Pumpkins i think Billy called the shots plus billy was lead singer and lead guitarist. Not like PJ at all.

    So as much as i understand what you are saying i think smashing pumpkins was always Billy's creative vehicle.

    yeah, corgan is about 99.97% of the creative input of smashing pumpkins. like trent reznor in nine inch nails, like dave grohl in foo fighters, like kurt cobain in nirvana, like the douche singer of the strokes.
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    pazmanpazman Posts: 197
    facepollution wrote:
    One of the last Pumpkins songs was that single called 'Untitled' which they recorded for the best of, it was a total return to the kick-ass SP sound, when asked about it Billy said he could always write songs like that, he just liked to experiment. The new album will be wicked.

    oh thats is such a load of crap!

    anyone could say that but its a pathetic excuse. So you're saying that Billy is saying, 'Machina could've been a great album and i could've written some great rock songs but i decided to experiment and release that stuff'

    its ok to experiment but if the songs are no good then dont release it
    Brian Wilson experimented with sounds and released Pet Sounds which was fucking brilliant! Thats OK but dont experiemtn and release 20 mins of good music on a 70 muinute album.THATS BAD!

    it goes for everything, a surgeon says 'i could've performed the cystectomy that way (proven technique) but i chose to experiment and thats why i fucked up the operation'
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    freewheelin3freewheelin3 Posts: 173
    so he is still a pompous ass then, going of the title...

    still im excited and worried at the same time.. hope it works out
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    prytocorduroyprytocorduroy Posts: 4,355
    Five months, how exciting! Been anticipating this one for a while. Next to PJ, they're my favorite!!!
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    LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    Answers_In_Playdoh wrote:
    Even though their last few albums weren't really that great, m still looking forward to this one!
    I actually only like their last 2 albums. I can't get into their earlier stuff at all and Mellon Collie is hit or miss with me.
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    sadprofessorsadprofessor Posts: 1,033
    intodeep wrote:
    Well i don't consider myself a huge pumpkins fan, but i always felt like Billy was the base of the creative talent there and Jimmy was in my opinion the second most talented member of the band. I could be off base with that.

    I think the bass player from Janes is gonna play on the album a steve perkins? that is the rumor i heard and he is an accomplished player. No knock on Iha, but i'm sure billy could find someone else to keep up with him.

    As to the point about PJ i think the guys in PJ always (esp post vitology) made it a point to write the albums together everyone puts in input.

    With Smashing Pumpkins i think Billy called the shots plus billy was lead singer and lead guitarist. Not like PJ at all.

    So as much as i understand what you are saying i think smashing pumpkins was always Billy's creative vehicle.


    Yeah, I have always heard that he pretty much played all the parts except for the drums on the first two records...

    I also remember hearing that when James joined APC for that little while, they sort of had to give him a crash course in guitar playing, because the stuff he did in the Pumpkins was never that hard... Billy did all the real difficult stuff.

    Although I must point out that James is listed as co-writer of my favorite Pumpkins song, and one of my favorite songs ever from any band... Mayonaise.
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    western pearlwestern pearl Posts: 632
    culot4 wrote:
    If just Eddie Vedder and Matt Cameron went out on the road and called it Pearl Jam it wouldn't be. The Pumpkins had an undeniable chemistry as a four piece, not a two piece. By the way, who are the other members of the reformed Pumpkins. Are they just plugging in anybody and not giving them any credit?

    You're bashing them for only having two of the original members and you don't even know who the other two are!?

    Personally i can't wait for the new pumpkins album to come out. Even if it IS mediocre (which i don't think it will be) it is 100% better than a lot of the other shit that has flooded the music world.
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    darthvedder88darthvedder88 Posts: 1,023
    The new Pumpkins is gonna FUCKING ROCK!!! Zeitgeist is gonna rock!!!
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    drew0drew0 Posts: 943
    As the post above me said, even if it sucks (on Pumpkins standards), it's still going to beat 90% of the music out there today.

    I'm personally excited, especially to see them. Yeah, they're 1/2 the band, but as it's said before, didn't Billy play everything but drums on either Siamese Dream or Mellon Collie? The Pumpkins were him and Jimmy, and that's all they need.

    I'm fucking stoked. It could turn out to be a big mistkae, but it could turn out to be one of the greatest things that we've seen in awhile...and I'm hoping it will be the latter.
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    western pearlwestern pearl Posts: 632
    The thing is, maybe he did somehow convince D'arcy or james or both even, to come back. I highly doubt it and if anybody has any info to proove me wrong then please share. I think there are two reasons for keeping the other two members a secret. 1.) They want to promote "The Pumpkins" and build up hype and when it gets close to 7/7/07 or even the date itself, they then let everyone know who the two mystery members are. Or.... 2.) James and D'arcy ARE in the band and they are waiting for 7/7/07 to make it like a big Pumpkin explosion. The album comes out, everyone finds out they're in the band, get super psyched about it and buy tons of albums. My heart wants #2, my head says #1.
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    freewheelin3freewheelin3 Posts: 173
    what the hell ae you guys listening too.. to say a shitty pumpkins album would be better than 90% stuff out there reaks of laziness.. there is some great music at the moment

    hell i dont think a great pumpkins album would necessairly be thamong the very strongest stuff out there!
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    prytocorduroyprytocorduroy Posts: 4,355
    western pearl wrote:
    The thing is, maybe he did somehow convince D'arcy or james or both even, to come back. I highly doubt it and if anybody has any info to proove me wrong then please share. I think there are two reasons for keeping the other two members a secret. 1.) They want to promote "The Pumpkins" and build up hype and when it gets close to 7/7/07 or even the date itself, they then let everyone know who the two mystery members are. Or.... 2.) James and D'arcy ARE in the band and they are waiting for 7/7/07 to make it like a big Pumpkin explosion. The album comes out, everyone finds out they're in the band, get super psyched about it and buy tons of albums. My heart wants #2, my head says #1.
    Well Mellisa Auf der Maur I think will take over bass duties, as she's said she'd be glad to on a few occasions. Don't count on D'arcy coming back. And as much as I'd love to see James, he was basically eye candy for lack of a better word, comic relief, that sort of thing. He's not a necessity but I really want him to be part of it.

    Pumpkins '07 :D
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    bestsanebestsane Posts: 131
    To be honest, I can't wait for the album, but honestly the album would be a huge flop. They don't have many fans as they had 15 years ago. Billy can't pull out a comeback unless he takes the other Billy's advice (think American Idiot).
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    bharQbharQ Posts: 1,201
    darthvedder88 wrote:
    The new Pumpkins is gonna FUCKING ROCK!!! Zeitgeist is gonna rock!!!

    The only thing you've "heard" is an album name and some tour dates.. so clearly you're just rollin the dice with that comment
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