Smashing Pumpkins new album named 'Zeitgeist'

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  • say_hi
    say_hi Posts: 313
    reeferchief wrote:
    Although I'll no doubt buy the Pumpkins new one zitlist or however it was spelt, King's of Leon, Arcade Fire and Nine Black Alps are seriously anticipated, infact if someone said I could have all three albums today and all I had to do was I dont know suck George W.'s cock or something well I might just have to kneel down.
    The Pumpkins I could patiently wait for though.

    The Arcade Fire album has been leaked for a few weeks now, its really good, download it.
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  • prytocorduroy
    prytocorduroy Posts: 4,355
    hendrix78 wrote:
    Maybe the difference is that Jimmy Chamberlin is one of the sickest drummers out there, whereas you could find musicians as good or better than Darcy and Iha just about anywhere.
    Sad but true. D'acry is very replaceable, I hope they take Auf der Maur's offer, she's bad ass. And I love Iha, but he is replaceable, won't be the same without him though.

    Why is it "grunge" drummers are bad ass motherfuckers?! Dave Grohl, Jimmy Chamberlain, Sean Kinney, Dave A./Jack Irons/Matt Cameron for example.
  • culot4
    culot4 Posts: 775
    western pearl wrote:
    So let me get this straight. Everything you know about the guy you get from interviews. You don't know the guy personally? How can anybody say the guy is a "control freak asshole" w/o actually knowing him. Maybe Iha and Wretzky just took the wrong approach w/ him. Chamberlain seems to do alright.

    Didn't Chamberlain get kicked out of the band at one point during the Mellon Collie tour when someone overdosed.
    Once in a while you can get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.
  • western pearl
    western pearl Posts: 632
    culot4 wrote:
    Didn't Chamberlain get kicked out of the band at one point during the Mellon Collie tour when someone overdosed.

    Yeah i believe he got kicked out after jonathan melvoin (i think that was his name) the keyboardist, overdosed on heroin. Jimmy had a pretty serious substance abuse problem as well and was kicked off so he could get everything under control.

    As i see it, this was done for his own good, not b/c billy was being a control freak.
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  • djwatt
    djwatt Posts: 6
    a couple things,

    first, James is a much better guitar player than he gets credit for, yeah during siamese dream he was in the background, but all the footage i´ve seen during the Adore tour, James was playing lead, and many of the solos as well, i imagine for machina as well, but all 3 times i saw them during machina i was either on melissa´s side or too far away to notice, i can´t believe APC had to give him a crash course

    also, to the guy who said Machine was 20 minutes of good music on a 70 minute disc, well, fair enough, i think a lot of people would agree with you, but they would probably pick different favourite songs, i read dozens of reviews of machina when it came out and they all basically said that there were some good songs, but it was too long, but most of their favourites were different songs, so by putting 15 songs on the album, he was putting it all out there for everyone to find their own favourites

    i think Billy is as capable as anyone of writing a hit record, but Billy was never one eager to please, you won´t hear all the hits played at a pumpkins show, you´ll hear one or two or three, but he´s not interested in giving people what they want, he wants to challenge his audience i think, and that´s not for eveyone i suppose, but it works for me and i´ll be looking forward to it
  • darthvedder88
    darthvedder88 Posts: 1,023
    I think the big challenge will be competing with songs like "1979" and "Bullet with Butterfly Wings" as far as becoming mainstream. I mean, Mellon Collie was the one time where the Pumpkins actually functioned as a band, and they kicked ass!!! So we'll see how the new Pumpkins sound.
    "Darth Vader would say 'Impressive'."

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  • Brisk
    Brisk Posts: 84
    facepollution wrote:
    One of the last Pumpkins songs was that single called 'Untitled' which they recorded for the best of, it was a total return to the kick-ass SP sound, when asked about it Billy said he could always write songs like that, he just liked to experiment. The new album will be wicked.

    good point John!

    Forgot about that song.
  • Mohab
    Mohab Posts: 310
    So basically corgan is touring with the old drummer, well at least they can play some Gish and Sd, but thats basically a corgan solo album and act if they tour, only with the license to play sp stuff w zwan and his solo 'gems'. thats sheer bsuiness trickery, but the sps first three albums and pices iscariot are ok, billys vocals are shit though.
  • bharQ
    bharQ Posts: 1,201
    Mohab wrote:
    So basically corgan is touring with the old drummer, well at least they can play some Gish and Sd, but thats basically a corgan solo album and act if they tour, only with the license to play sp stuff w zwan and his solo 'gems'. thats sheer bsuiness trickery, but the sps first three albums and pices iscariot are ok, billys vocals are shit though.

    was this written purposely to not make any fucking sense?

    the early SP stuff is incredible not ok. his vocals aren't meant to be pretty and nice.. its meant to be raw and aggressive.. its what real rock should sound like.. true expression.. his voice works very well with the early stuff so I hope they go back to that style.
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  • culot4
    culot4 Posts: 775
    We can debate this until we're blue in the face, but whether or not Billy is capable of writing another Rhinoceros remains to be seen. I'm not expecting a big mainstream success and a return to doing stadium tours, but a solid rock album like Gish and Siamese Dream is what I'm hoping for.
    Once in a while you can get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.
  • Pearl Jam and toast
    Pearl Jam and toast Posts: 4,475
    pazman wrote:
    no doubt it'll be a flop
    the Pumpkins last 2 albums are average and Billys solo effort was woeful and its been 10 years since Mellon Collie....
    I think everyone who doesn't appreciate Machina and Adore should listen closer or shut the hell up about it..

    You think people who only know Pearl Jam for Ten and Vs are going to appreciate the No Code-Pearl Jam records? Fuck no. Tons of us (myself included) put all of those albums above Ten and Vs,... same story with the Pumpkins.

    MCIS and Siamese Dream are amazing records, but if you can connect with them so are Machina and Adore (and Machina II for that matter).

    Corgan's solo album is questionable, but it wasn't a Pumpkins' record anyway.

    And by the looks of it the new record will be fairly heavy... we know that there's a lotttttt of guitar layering.. but that's nothing new for Billy no matter what album you're talking about.

    About James... He really is an underappreciated guitar player. I love his style,.. and he's just so goddamn solid.. you can rely on him to absolutely tear it up if he's called on. I hope he's with the Pumpkins but I think we're gonna have to wait until the summer to find out.
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  • tonadax
    tonadax Posts: 594
    after their latest works i´m not hoping something especial of them, meanwhile i´ll be listening siamese dream and ava adore....
  • reeferchief
    reeferchief Posts: 3,569
    there are witches wrote:
    The Arcade Fire album has been leaked for a few weeks now, its really good, download it.

    I know but my new years resolution was to be a little more patient and not download albums before they come out.:)
    Can not be arsed with life no more.
  • dan_vedder
    dan_vedder Posts: 213
    culot4 wrote:
    Hopefully the music is better than that title. I have a feeling this thing is going to be a huge flop.

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  • smashing_pumpkin
    smashing_pumpkin Posts: 40
    I really think that's funny to doubt of an artist talent when he just has made one of the greatest double albuns of all times, and as just wrote albuns like Siamese Dream, Adore, Pisces Iscariot, Gish and Machina. And in the Best of gave us a b-side album that was truly great.

    But that's the Pumpkins. People think it's good mood to criticise them.
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  • dharma69
    dharma69 Posts: 1,275
    Klumpie wrote:
    The Smashing Pumpkins
    6th album
    'Zeitgeist'
    07.07.07

    watch your myspace bullitin space
    What a lovely and pretentious title.

    Well actually it's just pretentious. I can't even feign interest in this.
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  • Pearl Jam and toast
    Pearl Jam and toast Posts: 4,475
    smashing_pumpkin wrote:
    I really think that's funny to doubt of an artist talent when he just has made one of the greatest double albuns of all times, and as just wrote albuns like Siamese Dream, Adore, Pisces Iscariot, Gish and Machina. And in the Best of gave us a b-side album that was truly great.

    But that's the Pumpkins. People think it's good mood to criticise them.
    Pretty much every b-sides collection you can find from them is better than anything most other bands ever release. Gish outtakes through Machina II.
    Come on pilgrim you know he loves you..

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  • western pearl
    western pearl Posts: 632
    dharma69 wrote:
    What a lovely and pretentious title.

    Well actually it's just pretentious. I can't even feign interest in this.


    ......alright....
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    "She fell funny"

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  • sasoj
    sasoj Posts: 239
    well...
    lets just wait and see
    i love rock chicks
  • prytocorduroy
    prytocorduroy Posts: 4,355
    Some sweet Pumpkins videos to pump people for their live acts this summer!

    Cherub Rock
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh_HLl_EMls&mode=related&search=
    Thru the Eyes of Ruby
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CahyQ6no1C8&mode=related&search=
    Cash Car Star
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDWo9jWeiyE&mode=related&search=
    Tear
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ds-fPZUdb0&mode=related&search=


    :D:D:D

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