the final five Greatest American Rock Bands of All Time

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  • mrwalkerb
    mrwalkerb Posts: 1,015
    yeah I'd say so. not sure about teh Doors being so high but for all you people who argue about Nirvana only being regarded as good as they are is becasue of Kurt's suicide is fucking laughable. Unless you were at teh off ramp we all know about 2% of the people here (myself included) would never had heard of PJ without Nirvana so step off and deal with it. oh yeah Aerosmith is cool too. maybe not #2 cool but top ten for american bands I'd say

    edit-by the way how come no one talks about teh Doors legacy being becasue Morrison died? look what fuck nut Ray Manzerik(sic) has done since how can that not dimish thier legacy
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  • yosi1
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    mrwalkerb wrote:
    yeah I'd say so. not sure about teh Doors being so high but for all you people who argue about Nirvana only being regarded as good as they are is becasue of Kurt's suicide is fucking laughable. Unless you were at teh off ramp we all know about 2% of the people here (myself included) would never had heard of PJ without Nirvana so step off and deal with it. oh yeah Aerosmith is cool too. maybe not #2 cool but top ten for american bands I'd say

    edit-by the way how come no one talks about teh Doors legacy being becasue Morrison died? look what fuck nut Ray Manzerik(sic) has done since how can that not dimish thier legacy

    Just because we MIGHT not have heard of PJ with out Nirvana, doesn't change anything. There are clearly bands that had a larger influence, and have been larger commercial success, and have written better music then Nirvana has. Even though I don't like Nirvana, I will agree that they should be in the top 15 or 20 American rock bands of all time, they are not close to being number one.
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  • mrwalkerb wrote:
    yeah I'd say so. not sure about teh Doors being so high but for all you people who argue about Nirvana only being regarded as good as they are is becasue of Kurt's suicide is fucking laughable. Unless you were at teh off ramp we all know about 2% of the people here (myself included) would never had heard of PJ without Nirvana so step off and deal with it. oh yeah Aerosmith is cool too. maybe not #2 cool but top ten for american bands I'd say

    edit-by the way how come no one talks about teh Doors legacy being becasue Morrison died? look what fuck nut Ray Manzerik(sic) has done since how can that not dimish thier legacy
    Are you serious? No way Nirvana should be number 1.
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    yosi wrote:
    Just because we MIGHT not have heard of PJ with out Nirvana, doesn't change anything. There are clearly bands that had a larger influence, and have been larger commercial success, and have written better music then Nirvana has. Even though I don't like Nirvana, I will agree that they should be in the top 15 or 20 American rock bands of all time, they are not close to being number one.

    exactly. good band? yes. influential band? definitely. best band ever to come from america? not a chance in hell. id even be ok with them being higher than pj becos i understand the extent to which they influenced things. but they're not the best we've got to offer... i hope.
  • Nirvana was the second highest American act on SPIN's 50 Greatest bands's list. And that's bands, not strictly rock groups. The Spin list, or this one is about as credible as Vanilla Ice's street cred, but I more less think this list was ok in naming Nirvana #1. It wouldn't matter if freakin KISS was number one, no one list is the right one.
  • prljam85
    prljam85 Posts: 227
    i dont know about nirvana as number 1. I wouldnt even put them in the top ten
    yea, I agree nirvana wasnt that good
  • rhinomagic
    rhinomagic Charlottesville, VA Posts: 2,553
    Nirvana was very good. For three or four years.

    You shouldn't judge a band's all-time legacy based on the potential of a few albums and a short career. Look at how many artists sparkle and fade once their new-ness has worn off.

    We'll never know whether Nirvana/Kurt could have sustained such a great start.
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  • PaulJam
    PaulJam Posts: 163
    Hmm, would have expected a better looking list than that.

    Kinda makes you proud to be British :-)

    ...although you guys do have Bob Dylan, Jimi Hendrix and Stevie Wonder. Still though...
  • PaulJam
    PaulJam Posts: 163
    rhinomagic wrote:
    Nirvana was very good. For three or four years.

    You shouldn't judge a band's all-time legacy based on the potential of a few albums and a short career. Look at how many artists sparkle and fade once their new-ness has worn off.

    We'll never know whether Nirvana/Kurt could have sustained such a great start.

    I don't agree. As long as they made enough good music and had a significant enough impact, that's all that matters. I say this considering that my top two would probably be The Velvet Underground and The Doors. They were only around for a short period. Nirvana had three good studio albums, plus Incesticide which has some great music on it. I know MTV Unplugged has no new material but come on, it's a thing of beauty. I'd put Nirvana in the top three after those two bands. They're DEFINITELY better than Aerosmith (even old Aerosmith) in my opinion.
  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,825
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    The Replacements
    Pearl Jam
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    REM
  • PaulJam
    PaulJam Posts: 163
    The Replacements and The Ramones should definitely be up there!
  • Mojopin
    Mojopin Posts: 216
    LOL, and no Janes' on that list.

    Idiots.
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  • pjfan020
    pjfan020 Posts: 426
    I'm very confused as to how these lists are assembled. There's really no point in making a list every god damn year. They're usually bullshit anyways.
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  • WTF? Metallica better than Pearl Jam. No fucking way.

    As much as you won't like to admit it, Metallica is a much more popular band with far reaching influence in metal and rock around the world. I'm actually surprised they weren't higher than 11.
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  • mrwalkerb wrote:
    yeah I'd say so. not sure about teh Doors being so high but for all you people who argue about Nirvana only being regarded as good as they are is becasue of Kurt's suicide is fucking laughable. Unless you were at teh off ramp we all know about 2% of the people here (myself included) would never had heard of PJ without Nirvana so step off and deal with it.

    By that logic, MotherLoveBone, Soundgarden, and Mudhoney should be #1, 2, 3 ahead of Nivana. All these bands were getting press way before Nirvana was even a band. These bands put Seattle music on the MAP. If it weren't for them, Nirvana would be another local band that couldn't make it, broken up by now, and Kurt would be another starving artist addicted to herroine, but he would be alive, maybe...

    PS. It should be illegal to include any band with 3 records to their credit in any "greatest Bands" list...
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  • We All Believe
    We All Believe Eastchester, NY - Proud South Canadian. Posts: 802
    Aerosmith's "Farewell" tour is starting soon, and today I heard a radio commercial for the NY shows that proclaimed Aerosmith "the greatest American rock band of all time"

     :| 
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  • Gibson
    Gibson Chicago Posts: 2,671
    Too lazy to look who tops the list, but wouldn't album sales be a good enough measure (regardless of whether we like them or not?)
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  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,825
    Gibson said:
    Too lazy to look who tops the list, but wouldn't album sales be a good enough measure (regardless of whether we like them or not?)
    Album sales do not equal greatness, IMHO


  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    Gibson said:
    Too lazy to look who tops the list, but wouldn't album sales be a good enough measure (regardless of whether we like them or not?)
    Album sales do not equal greatness, IMHO



    So true, Joe.  It depends on the definition:
    "Greatest: of an extent, amount, or intensity considerably above the normal or average." (From Oxford Languages)

    Greatest album in terms of extent might include things like Hermann Nitsch's Das 6-Tage-Spiel des Orgien Mysterien Theaters, clocking in at 48 hours and 23 minutes.  Never heard it, never intend to.  Probably has not sold well either.  :lol:

    Greatest album in terms of amount (in sales) would probably still be Michael Jackson's Thriller and I've know a lot of people who love that album but it never made my top 10 (or even top 100), but oh well, I'm kind of out there with a lot of music anyway so no surprise there, haha!

    Greatest album in terms of intensity might include Dead Kennedys Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables , a great punk album that sold well for hardcore fans, but not to the general public.

    So greatest, really, is a vague term when applied to anything in general, which is why I included Your in the "Your 5 Greats American Rock Band of All Time..." thread title.
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