Whilst I think the manner in which he's going after the money is crass and very now, I do think there's something quite perverse about the whole situation. It must be an odd situation to be famous for something like this, yet have absolutely no way of making money out of it - and in fairness, none of us are in the position of saying how we would feel because it's such a unique situation.
The fact is that the Nirvana estate are raking millions in year after year - you only have to look at all the high street companies selling smiley face t shirts etc to see that Nirvana are still a big business. So to have someone so specifically linked to it not be financially rewarded seems a bit messed up. Is the guy just supposed to feel lucky that he was that kid?
look, you cant seek to profit independently(pics and autographs at conventions), put yourself out there as the nirvana baby and then claim you are damaged.
dude is scheduled for such convention for next year......
Yeah that's why I said I thought it was crass.
The dude wants compensating for his picture being used on a record that's sold over 30 million copies, and continues to generate massive amounts of money. I can see why he thinks that making chump change for autographs at conventions pales in comparison to what is being made by the Nirvana estate. I'm not saying I necessarily agree, but I can understand that it must be frustrating to be famous for something that you had no say in, and having nothing much to show for it.
You're ignoring or not paying attention to a key element in this whole situation: TIMING. When this guy's parents were PAID (maybe only $100 bucks, not sure the amount) to do this, Nirvana was NOT a household name by a longshot. NO ONE knew where this was going to go, and they probably figured "Hey, we'll get $100 bucks out of it and no one will know it's our particular kid if we don't want them to as he gets older".
When you make an agreement to do something, as long as both sides fulfill their obligations, the situation is over. Done. His parents got what they were told they'd get for him being in the picture.
The fact that this album and this cover went on to represent a damn GENERATION and a whole movement of music is both cool, and daunting, and crazy, and yes very lucrative for those with rights to the album art. But nothing about that says "injustice", and for this guy to sue AFTER putting HIMSELF out there as "The baby on the Nevermind cover" for money, honestly the Nirvana estate should sue him back for attorney's fees for wasting their time. It's ridiculous, and while I absolutely understand WHY he wants more money, he simply doesn't have a right to it nor is it "unjust" that he didn't make a forture.
All over the world there are people who got paid for art for album covers that never went anywhere, so getting paid at the time was a good deal. This is one of the few that exploded, so it goes... lucky for whoever owns the rights and all the merch made from it.
Oh I understand all everyone is saying. All I'm really getting at is that I can understand his ambivalence about the situation, it's a weird situation for anyone to be in, and as I said in my first post, I think the reasoning behind the lawsuit is very typical of the era we're in now. Regardless, it'll be really interesting to see how it plays out, I'd imagine a settlement. If he were to win, it would set a pretty crazy precedent.
I volunteered bass duties with some local musicians to play Nevermind front to back this Saturday, so I've spent the last 6 weeks learning it.... man, I can't believe how much I slept on Novoselic as a bass player.
Some of his bass lines are clever AF.
It's also been an awesome way to rediscover this album I used to love but got burnt out on almost 20 years ago. Occasionally in recent years I would reach for Bleach, or In Utero or Live & Loud, but never Nevermind.
I sure fucking hope the live Bluray doesn't look as badly upscaled as the trailer make it look
I'm not a whiz when it comes to that stuff, but wouldn't that be the best they could do considering it probably wasn't originally shot in HD?
I was thinking the same thing. When it comes to concert videos, finding them on film is like 1 in a million. Most of them were filmed on videotape. Whenever you do come across one that was put on film instead of videotape its like winning the lottery. If I had a DeLorean I'd go back to a zeppelin concert, then after that I'd go and thank production staff for various rock artists who opted to use film The Song Remains the Same, some of the older AC/DC shows, I think there's queen show, a the Who who, that were on film. They are amazing time capsules.
I'm guessing this was the best they could do because it was filmed on videotape :(
I'm more miffed that's it's not included in the vinyl set :( or as a standalone. So I gotta by cd's just get it :(
The 8 lp set is an eyewatering £190 here in the UK. Going to keep an eye on it and hope it drops to below £100. Otherwise Im out. Ive already got 6 official Nirvana live albums.
Unplugged Wishkah Reading Live N Loud Paramount and the one that came Bleach reissue.
These might be good live shows but I dont think I can justify the money.
Yeah. The samey-ness of the set lists has me hesitating. I’m sure it’s a great set, but I have the 2 era specific shows they released. These aren’t really different.
I’d be swayed if they included the Devonshire mixes in this.
I'm happy with my 20th set. I guess I find more value in the rarities, b-sides than live shows. Cool that you have the option but nah. Kinda feels like they've released everything in the studio for this album so just dangling live stuff for completists to buy.
Having said that were I at one of those gigs I'd be all over it. The one band I wish I'd seen live over any other.
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I'm happy with my 20th set. I guess I find more value in the rarities, b-sides than live shows. Cool that you have the option but nah. Kinda feels like they've released everything in the studio for this album so just dangling live stuff for completists to buy.
Having said that were I at one of those gigs I'd be all over it. The one band I wish I'd seen live over any other.
from a culturally significant standpoint, i'd agree. although aic and mad season with layne would be right up there too.
True. I guess the gateway bands that got you into your own music and not that of your family hole the most special place in your heart. At least that's the case for me. PJ and Tool are my favourites, but PJ and Nirvana are the bands that made me fall in love with music which was my own, if that makes sense.
PJ with Dave, Nirvana, Alice with Layne, MS and Temple, classic SP lineup and STP with Scott pre first breakup, they're the ones I'd love to have seen. One of my best mates married a guy from Seattle and man the gigs he told me he saw...Love Bone, Nirvana with Chad, Tad...not to mention going water skiing with Cornell and dating a girl who later dated Jason Everman 😂 Talk about eyes bugging out of my head
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True. I guess the gateway bands that got you into your own music and not that of your family hole the most special place in your heart. At least that's the case for me. PJ and Tool are my favourites, but PJ and Nirvana are the bands that made me fall in love with music which was my own, if that makes sense.
PJ with Dave, Nirvana, Alice with Layne, MS and Temple, classic SP lineup and STP with Scott pre first breakup, they're the ones I'd love to have seen. One of my best mates married a guy from Seattle and man the gigs he told me he saw...Love Bone, Nirvana with Chad, Tad...not to mention going water skiing with Cornell and dating a girl who later dated Jason Everman 😂 Talk about eyes bugging out of my head
I caved it bought it, but I keep making new musicvaultz accounts to get 15% off (did that last week with the road apples box too).
It is moderately bugging me that you get these boxsets for albums most people own, and you gotta get all this extra stuff just to get the new content (for me, I just want the live albums). Still 4 live albums seems better than the hip boxset that only has 1 live album.. lol (or that they double dipped by releasing the EP with the unlreased tracks from that album a few months before including it in the boxset).
I much prefer it when bands release stuff standalone, like the new springsteen live album.
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Some of his bass lines are clever AF.
It's also been an awesome way to rediscover this album I used to love but got burnt out on almost 20 years ago. Occasionally in recent years I would reach for Bleach, or In Utero or Live & Loud, but never Nevermind.
It really is an amazing fucking album.
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make me think of this photo app:
Just like so many shitty upscaled musicvideos:
Thank god for this Breed:
I'm guessing this was the best they could do because it was filmed on videotape :(
I'm more miffed that's it's not included in the vinyl set :( or as a standalone. So I gotta by cd's just get it :(
But using software, AI assisted etc like many upscaled music videos makes it look like it was painted.
Just upscale it and maybe add some delicate sharpness to it. But leave it be. If it was shot on low-rez video it was.
I think this look will age alot more.
Unplugged
Wishkah
Reading
Live N Loud
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and the one that came Bleach reissue.
These might be good live shows but I dont think I can justify the money.
Having said that were I at one of those gigs I'd be all over it. The one band I wish I'd seen live over any other.
Wellington 1998
London 2007
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Stockholm 2012
EV Dublin 2017
Milan 2018
Padova 2018
Boston 2 2018
Auckland 1 & 2 2024
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PJ with Dave, Nirvana, Alice with Layne, MS and Temple, classic SP lineup and STP with Scott pre first breakup, they're the ones I'd love to have seen. One of my best mates married a guy from Seattle and man the gigs he told me he saw...Love Bone, Nirvana with Chad, Tad...not to mention going water skiing with Cornell and dating a girl who later dated Jason Everman 😂 Talk about eyes bugging out of my head
Wellington 1998
London 2007
Brisbane 2009
Stockholm 2012
EV Dublin 2017
Milan 2018
Padova 2018
Boston 2 2018
Auckland 1 & 2 2024
www.headstonesband.com