Your top 5 least favorite rock sub-genres

gabers

Blackeyedangel wrote:

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? indeed

Blackeyed you little trickster. Emo is most definitely NOT the new grunge. Sorry, to each their own, but to me the only other genre of music I'd like to listen less to is Tejano.

Blackeyedangel

gabers wrote:

? indeed

Someone's being a trickster. Emo is most definitely NOT the new grunge.

lol. why not?


oh btw... this is pretty funny. http://www.cracked.com/index.php?name=News&sid=1170

gabers

Blackeyedangel wrote:

lol. why not?


oh btw... this is pretty funny. http://www.cracked.com/index.php?name=News&sid=1170

But you see those grunge dudes never cared about fashion. It's so apparent the Emo dudes do. Not that there's something wrong with that...

You think Kurt Cobain was trying to be fashionable with holey jeans and grandma's sweater???

Blackeyedangel

gabers wrote:

? indeed

Blackeyed you little trickster. Emo is most definitely NOT the new grunge. Sorry, to each their own, but to me the only other genre of music I'd like to listen less to is Tejano.

well, I don't like emo either but there are so many similarities between emo and grunge. A bunch of bands getting mislabeled, terrible fashion, a similar backlash in response to both scenes. They're a lot more similar to each other than I think either is to hair metal and if anything grunge is probably closer to hair metal, if only because chronologically grunge is closer to hair metal than the modern concept of emo is.

TheEvolution

The funny thing is when the so-called grunge scene of Seattle was going on, most of the guys writing these troubled lyrics such as Eddie and Kurt did not lead perfect lives, they were writing for the most parts about the drama in their lives. Most of these EMO boys are writing about their girlfriends dumping them and shit. They also, at least the more sucessful groups all come from at least middle class families, money does not buy happiness, but it sure doesn't hurt. Most of the grunge groups were struggling most of the time. With the exception of a few guys like Stoney and a few others. But the EMO kids just sing about shit that has no real importance to the real problems in the world. Maybe im wrong but that is just my opinion. Oh and i also seconf the Christian Rock thing, i forgot to put that on my list haha

Blackeyedangel

gabers wrote:

But you see those grunge dudes never cared about fashion. It's so apparent the Emo dudes do. Not that there's something wrong with that...

You think Kurt Cobain was trying to be fashionable with holey jeans and grandma's sweater???

I don't think most "emo" groups are concerned with how they look or are trying to be fashionable but dress a certain way for theatrics. Believe it or not dressing up the way they do in P!ATD or MCR or FOB do for their concerts or videos isn't fashionable, they would get laughed off the streets for looking like that. Maybe not as much FOB because Pete Wentz seems to be very aware of what's fashionable and popular. It's really just for show, sticking to a certain theme, ya know. Yeah, it's still ridiculous, but whatever.

Blackeyedangel

TheEvolution wrote:

The funny thing is when the so-called grunge scene of Seattle was going on, most of the guys writing these troubled lyrics such as Eddie and Kurt did not lead perfect lives, they were writing for the most parts about the drama in their lives. Most of these EMO boys are writing about their girlfriends dumping them and shit. They also, at least the more sucessful groups all come from at least middle class families, money does not buy happiness, but it sure doesn't hurt. Most of the grunge groups were struggling most of the time. With the exception of a few guys like Stoney and a few others. But the EMO kids just sing about shit that has no real importance to the real problems in the world. Maybe im wrong but that is just my opinion. Oh and i also seconf the Christian Rock thing, i forgot to put that on my list haha

I don't think most of the emo groups you're thinking of lived perfect lives before their breakthroughs or whatever. I'm not going to argue about who was poorer because it's pointless and has no real effect on the music. I don't really care if Kurt was eating dirt off a bridge before Nirvana, it doesn't make the music any better.
Also I just have to laugh whenever someone complains about emo groups becoming popular on songs about breaking up with girlfriends, it is so cliche and really doesn't happen as much as you think. Besides, even Pearl Jam had Black, come on now. Is there success illegit now because they had a break-up song? I would even say that songs a lot more emo than most of what these emo groups put out.
Also, I'm just wondering who determines what has any real importance in life. Are you talking about politics and social problems? Since when was that necessary to make good music. There are plenty of groups that did fine while barely touching those subjects or not even commenting on them at all. The Beatles did pretty fine for themselves playing mostly love songs. Music doesn't always have to have a point anyway.

tonadax

all sub genres you mentioned before and most of ´´indie´´ bands, their flat music makes me sick...

TheEvolution

Blackeyedangel wrote:

I don't think most of the emo groups you're thinking of lived perfect lives before their breakthroughs or whatever. I'm not going to argue about who was poorer because it's pointless and has no real effect on the music. I don't really care if Kurt was eating dirt off a bridge before Nirvana, it doesn't make the music any better.
Also I just have to laugh whenever someone complains about emo groups becoming popular on songs about breaking up with girlfriends, it is so cliche and really doesn't happen as much as you think. Besides, even Pearl Jam had Black, come on now. Is there success illegit now because they had a break-up song? I would even say that songs a lot more emo than most of what these emo groups put out.
Also, I'm just wondering who determines what has any real importance in life. Are you talking about politics and social problems? Since when was that necessary to make good music. There are plenty of groups that did fine while barely touching those subjects or not even commenting on them at all. The Beatles did pretty fine for themselves playing mostly love songs. Music doesn't always have to have a point anyway.

I def agree with you, i kind of rambled on a little bit on my post. Yes they came from good lives, before their success. I think the grunge groups were able to better convey the emotion in their lyrics and songs becuase they know what they are singing about, they have experienced hardships, it helps make better music. Anthony Keidis wrote most of his best music while recovering from herion addiction. Temple of the dog was made on the fellings that came out of Andy Wood's Death. Cobain wrote most of his lyrics on the things that had happened during his life. The only reaosn i make the conncetion is becuase so many people link EMO to Grunge, because its all about emotion and teen anxiety and all that stuff. Or so i have been told anyways. The money is not the big issue i was probably worng on that, the issue lies on what the seattle boys had to go through, most of the time it was due to lack of financial stability but sometimes not. It seems to me luike these EMO kids have not lived these real life experinces that they whine about. And yes Pearl Jam had black but i think it touched on a whole other level than like Panic at the Disco who has lyrics like "I've got more wit, a better kiss, a hotter touch, a better fuck Than any boy you'll ever meet, sweetie you had me" I mean really those are rediculous lyrics. I felt bad just looking those up haha. but yeah i just think EMO i one big joke

Blackeyedangel

TheEvolution wrote:

I def agree with you, i kind of rambled on a little bit on my post. Yes they came from good lives, before their success. I think the grunge groups were able to better convey the emotion in their lyrics and songs becuase they know what they are singing about, they have experienced hardships, it helps make better music. Anthony Keidis wrote most of his best music while recovering from herion addiction. Temple of the dog was made on the fellings that came out of Andy Wood's Death. Cobain wrote most of his lyrics on the things that had happened during his life. The only reaosn i make the conncetion is becuase so many people link EMO to Grunge, because its all about emotion and teen anxiety and all that stuff. Or so i have been told anyways. The money is not the big issue i was probably worng on that, the issue lies on what the seattle boys had to go through, most of the time it was due to lack of financial stability but sometimes not. It seems to me luike these EMO kids have not lived these real life experinces that they whine about. And yes Pearl Jam had black but i think it touched on a whole other level than like Panic at the Disco who has lyrics like "I've got more wit, a better kiss, a hotter touch, a better fuck Than any boy you'll ever meet, sweetie you had me" I mean really those are rediculous lyrics. I felt bad just looking those up haha. but yeah i just think EMO i one big joke

I'm not going to over over which is better cause that's just opinion and we could go in circles.

I'm not sure what experiences you are talking about when you say "EMO kids have not lived these real life experinces that they whine about." there is no typical emo song, there's a stereotype but if you listened to an album like Three Cheers, The Black Parade, or even FUCT, they touch upon a whole bunch of different ideas and themes. And of course they didn't live through every experience they sing about. Eddie never became a serial killer like in once, did he?

And I think Panic! was going for a whole other type of song than black. As you can see those lyrics really aren't emotional or anything. Comparing them is pointless. And if you took that line from Panic! and compared it to a line from black like maybe "i know someday you'll have a beautiful life..." you'd think pearl jam was the emo band. which just goes to show you can't trust stereotypes.

NickyNooch

Tiki Barber wrote:

wow. that's a pretty bold and broad statement. so every rock band on an independent label is garbage to you? maybe you should try listening to some of it. and how are you gonna bunch them all into one catergory. i think you should explain yourself on this one or maybe you shouldn't have posted it at all.

Actually indie is a style of music and how bold and ignorant of you to accuse someone else of not knowing music as well as you. Independent label is different than indie music, but I guess in your extensive music knowledge you didn't know that. There is such thing as indie music. It doesn't refer to what label you are on. The Arcade Fire is a great example of an indie band. Sorry if it deeply offends you that I don't like them.

deadnothingbetter

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

Christian Rock

guess you haven't heard of starflyer 59, the prayer chain, mewithoutyou... great christian rock bands that don't really preach

markymark550

pjoasisrule wrote:

1. hair bands
2. emo
3. death metal
4. post grunge
5. nu-metal

I agree with all except hair bands. I'd change that one and replace it with rap-rock

libragirl

Matty Boy wrote:

Music is music, it's either good or it's shit.

I agree

The only sub genre that I really can't stand is death metal.

Odin

Great topic! I hate....

1. Today's version of "indie"
2. Emo
3. Ska
4. Rap-rock (I like rap, like rock, but never liked bands like Limp Bizkit and Linkin Park)
5. Folk-rock

Odin

And if ska doesn't qualify as a sub-genre of rock, then I'll say Christian rock, which is listed as a sub-genre on Wikipedia.

Lifted

NickyNooch wrote:

Actually indie is a style of music and how bold and ignorant of you to accuse someone else of not knowing music as well as you. Independent label is different than indie music, but I guess in your extensive music knowledge you didn't know that. There is such thing as indie music. It doesn't refer to what label you are on. The Arcade Fire is a great example of an indie band. Sorry if it deeply offends you that I don't like them.

okay smartass. indie is not a style of music. why do you think it's called indie. it's short for independent. it's not my fault people start labeling bands as indie bands because of their similarities with other indie bands. real indie bands are bands on independent labels, it's a fact, sorry if you don't like it. and how presumtious of you to assume that i am an arcade fire fan just because you made an ignorant statement about all indie music. but since you said it, yeah i think arcade fire is a great band.........and i never accused anyone of not knowing music as well as me. i just said for you to say that indie is one of the worst sub-genres in rock is an ignorant statement, because there are so many different types of bands that fall under the catergory as indie, it's impossible to put them in one group and dismiss them all as bad bands.

soulsinging

Dick Jones wrote:

Math
Stoner

yeah, what the fuck is math rock?

soulsinging

gabers wrote:

? indeed

Blackeyed you little trickster. Emo is most definitely NOT the new grunge. Sorry, to each their own, but to me the only other genre of music I'd like to listen less to is Tejano.

i love watching people like you try to rationalize things like this. if this lyrics isn't emo as shit i dont know what is:

"i know you'll be a star... in somebody else's sky. but why? WHY? WHHHHIIIIINNNNEEEE cant it be mine?"

a slightly different vocal register and you've got fall out boy's new hit. to say that grunge is somehow untouchably superior is bullshit. grunge was at times every bit as contrived and cheesy as emo can be now. and hair metal fans were saying the same things about whiny pussy depressed grunge fans that grunge fans are now saying about whiny pussy depressed emo fans.

soulsinging

TheEvolution wrote:

They also, at least the more sucessful groups all come from at least middle class families, money does not buy happiness, but it sure doesn't hurt.

funny how in one sentence you simultaneously claim money doesn't buy happiness then imply that it is somehow impossible for those with money to feel genuine sadness. im sure there's no contradiction in your self-righteous bullshit though.