and The Clash, Elvis Costello, The Buzzcocks.....etc, etc....Punk was originally coined as a term to describe young people in England dissatisfied with the status quo and wanted no part of tradional English society as in the brilliant lyric.....
"God save the Queen, she aint no human being."
one foot in the door
the other foot in the gutter
sweet smell that they adore
I think I'd rather smother
-The Replacements-
The US had punk way before the UK did and they had it better. UK punk was almost entirely trite, superficial crap. Oooh look at me with my carefully coiffeured mohawk and expertly sewn on patches on my leather jacket. Black Flag, Minor Threat, Bad Brains... that was REAL punk.
Punk, Hardcore....throw all those bullshit categories out, what it boiled down to was people fed up with the status quo.....and English and American artists got that message across with equally well.
one foot in the door
the other foot in the gutter
sweet smell that they adore
I think I'd rather smother
-The Replacements-
and The Clash, Elvis Costello, The Buzzcocks.....etc, etc....Punk was originally coined as a term to describe young people in England dissatisfied with the status quo and wanted no part of tradional English society as in the brilliant lyric.....
"God save the Queen, she aint no human being."
and played crap music....only clash had some musical integrity
Punk, Hardcore....throw all those bullshit categories out, what it boiled down to was people fed up with the status quo.....and English and American artists got that message across with equally well.
but so many of the english "punk" bands were apparently flying the flag for musical integrity and DIY ethics while occupying themselves with all the contrived fashion and naive "socialist" ethics that we have come to deem punk. It was all bullshit. I want to see Ian MacKaye wearing a plain t-shirt and shorts playing raw, intense music, not Joe Strummer pretending to be a socialist while playing sold-out stadium tours. I've got nothing against bands that play stadiums, but not under the guise of being "real" and for the people.
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The USA has Pearl Jam and they are still making music and touring...as long as these guys are alive the USA will always have the best scene...discussion over
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In terms of the amount of good artists from each country? The U.S. just shades it...
But look at the size difference. If you're talking overall scene, condensed in to one island that's smaller than Florida, you're talking about England.
And we always will have the best music scene. Nothing beats London. No city in the world is even close to being as rock and roll as London Town.
There's so much shit in America it's not even funny. And the bands who have something to say about that don't seem to break through.
Both sides of the pond have some great music right now, the biggest difference I see is that the US media outlets make no attempts to play anything that is unique. My Morning Jacket is probably the best band in the world right now but its not like they get much attention from the mainstream. At least in the UK, while they probably overhype everybody, you at least do hear about up and coming bands on radio/tv. Some American bands probably get more press in the UK than they do in the US.
Both sides of the pond have some great music right now, the biggest difference I see is that the US media outlets make no attempts to play anything that is unique. My Morning Jacket is probably the best band in the world right now but its not like they get much attention from the mainstream. At least in the UK, while they probably overhype everybody, you at least do hear about up and coming bands on radio/tv. Some American bands probably get more press in the UK than they do in the US.
60's - The Beatles
70's - Led Zeppelin
80's - The Smiths
90's - Radiohead
00's - ???
That's a beautiful musical progression if you ask me. But rock n roll has more or less been done to death. We're trying new things here and it's sh!t hot! I like some of the post punk stuff in America and Canada right now....Arcade Fire, The Shins, TV On The Radio etc...but for an overall scene you can't beat the freshness and vibrancy of London. New York's good although I've only spent a little time there but you don't find as many places like Camden Town or Shoreditch, where it's just gigs gigs gigs, everywhere you look.
Blackbud are keeping the classic rock going strong, trying to be Cream, although they don't realise it but eventually they will.
And then you have the old masters still doing it....Morrisey, Primal Scream, Oasis...and it sounds like the original Blur will get back together. Yeah baby!
I have been listening to loads of UK music recently, including some of the stuff mentioned in the last couple posts. A lot of the UK music i like gets really slated by a lot of the UK people on here who seem to have a strong hatred of anything labeled UK 'indie', so im not even going to mention the bands i like on here again! lol
I am very happy with the standard of music in the UK at the moment to be honest.
People say im paranoid. Well, they dont say it, but i know that's what they are thinking.
Overall I'd say the UK. Pearl Jam is my favourite and I grew up on grune but there really hasn't been anything much worthwhile to come out of the US since then. DMB has really lost its lustre over the years (though I'm still looking forward to seeing the full band for the first time in several years come May). Audioslave is decent but not exactly new talent. I did like the Killers first album, though that was so heavily influenced by British miusic that it's hard to really classify. The second album is pretty awful.
The UK has Radiohead, Coldplay, Kaiser Chiefs, Travis, Editors, Maximo Park, whatever Damon Albarn's doing at the moment, Razorlight, the Artic Monkeys and a whole slew of up and coming indie acts. On the negative side we have Pete Doherty who can't sing to save his life and is probably the most overrated musician of this decade. Oh yeah, and there's Dido. I looooove Dido and I don't care what any of you think of me for it.
Overall I'd say the UK. Pearl Jam is my favourite and I grew up on grune but there really hasn't been anything much worthwhile to come out of the US since then. DMB has really lost its lustre over the years (though I'm still looking forward to seeing the full band for the first time in several years come May). Audioslave is decent but not exactly new talent. I did like the Killers first album, though that was so heavily influenced by British miusic that it's hard to really classify. The second album is pretty awful.
The UK has Radiohead, Coldplay, Kaiser Chiefs, Travis, Editors, Maximo Park, whatever Damon Albarn's doing at the moment, Razorlight, the Artic Monkeys and a whole slew of up and coming indie acts. On the negative side we have Pete Doherty who can't sing to save his life and is probably the most overrated musician of this decade. Oh yeah, and there's Dido. I looooove Dido and I don't care what any of you think of me for it.
Is The Coral still around? I've seen them, like 3 years ago at a Dutch festival. Great band to hear and view!
I despise the whole indie post-punk/post-newwave movement that's been violating my radio for so long over in the UK. I don't think there are any 'scenes' I appreciate anymore; they seem to have all but disintegrated and spintered with the ipod generation.
Having said all that, there is an exciting amount of new folk music I have loved in the past few years from both US and UK - whether you can call that a 'scene', I don't know; it's certainly not as cut-and-dry as US or UK. You're right that the UK has given the world a lot of music lately, but I find a lot of it to be pretty shite.
I'm actually into quite a few European artists at the mo: Sigur Ros, Gogol Bordello...
Gogol Bordello is fucking amazing. I missed them when they came to town and I've been kicking myself ever since. My friends all said it was the best show they've seen and it was ranked in the top 10 of the year in both major newspapers here (I believe it was #1 in one of them)
Oh, and Canada's music scene beats both the States and the UK
Is The Coral still around? I've seen them, like 3 years ago at a Dutch festival. Great band to hear and view!
They are still together but not sure what they are up to at the moment. I have one of their albums which is pretty good, although i havent listened to it much. I saw them at a music festival a couple of years ago though, and they really were one of the highlights, was very impressed by their live performance.
Im seeing a lot of Canadian people on here claiming that Canada has the best music scene right now. Ive only really heard Arcade Fire, Broken Social Scene and The Dears and they are all very good, but i am not familiar with a lot of the other bands mentioned.
I listen to a lot of UK bands that people in different parts of the world, including the US and Canada, will not even have heard of, so i naturally feel that the UK scene is stronger because im more in the know about what is happening here than elsewhere.
People say im paranoid. Well, they dont say it, but i know that's what they are thinking.
Blackbud are keeping the classic rock going strong, trying to be Cream, although they don't realise it but eventually they will.
And then you have the old masters still doing it....Morrisey, Primal Scream, Oasis...and it sounds like the original Blur will get back together. Yeah baby!
As I was saying...great bands. Great style. What more do you want?
I really like the Long Blondes, started listening to them about a year ago. Kate Jackson is one of the coolest singers out there definitely. Think they are releasing Giddy Stratospheres as their next single, love that song.
Also been listening to the Holloways quite a bit recently, and im looking forward to the Cribs new album which is due out soon.
People say im paranoid. Well, they dont say it, but i know that's what they are thinking.
the thing that disappoints me about the state of music in the UK right now is that it's all quite indie-based thats being too popularised and I'm sure the good stuff isn't getting heard at all.
Only British band of the past few years that have really caught my attention are Bloc Party, which is strange for me as I like heavier kinda music.
Its just a pity that mongo's like Pete Doherty (who is not a lyrical genius) are still idolized by some. IMO Dirty Pretty Things are far times better than Babyshambles and the Libertines ever were.
Kaiser Chiefs, Travis, Editors, Maximo Park, whatever Damon Albarn's doing at the moment, Razorlight, the Artic Monkeys
There is nothing amazing going on with this genre anymore methinks.
In saying that... the Irish music scene is brutal right now :(
the thing that disappoints me about the state of music in the UK right now is that it's all quite indie-based thats being too popularised and I'm sure the good stuff isn't getting heard at all.
Only British band of the past few years that have really caught my attention are Bloc Party, which is strange for me as I like heavier kinda music.
Its just a pity that mongo's like Pete Doherty (who is not a lyrical genius) are still idolized by some. IMO Dirty Pretty Things are far times better than Babyshambles and the Libertines ever were.
There is nothing amazing going on with this genre anymore methinks.
In saying that... the Irish music scene is brutal right now :(
I have to completely disagree with you with regards to Doherty and Dirty Pretty Things. It is all personal opinion but although i think Pete Doherty is a bit of an idiot, he has written some of my favourite ever songs both with the Libs and Babyshambles. I like Dirty Pretty Things as well, but prefer the Libs and Babyshambles.
I think if a lot of people would perhaps disregard what they read in the papers about Pete Doherty they would probably like his music. I dont idolize him, i dont idolize anyone, but i think he is a talented song writer.
*Awaits people's replies of 'OMG, Pete Doherty is a Junkie!! Talentless waster!!' lol
People say im paranoid. Well, they dont say it, but i know that's what they are thinking.
I have to completely disagree with you with regards to Doherty and Dirty Pretty Things. It is all personal opinion but although i think Pete Doherty is a bit of an idiot, he has written some of my favourite ever songs both with the Libs and Babyshambles. I like Dirty Pretty Things as well, but prefer the Libs and Babyshambles.
I think if a lot of people would perhaps disregard what they read in the papers about Pete Doherty they would probably like his music. I dont idolize him, i dont idolize anyone, but i think he is a talented song writer.
*Awaits people's replies of 'OMG, Pete Doherty is a Junkie!! Talentless waster!!' lol
In fairness though, I did try and listen to him before the whole junkie thing became something to brag about, so at least I gave him a fair trial and his music just wasn't for me... ye can't get fairer than that! Just cos he's a junkie doesn't mean his music is shit... I mean Layne Staley/RHCP etc... wrote some great songs while on drugs!
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and The Clash, Elvis Costello, The Buzzcocks.....etc, etc....Punk was originally coined as a term to describe young people in England dissatisfied with the status quo and wanted no part of tradional English society as in the brilliant lyric.....
"God save the Queen, she aint no human being."
the other foot in the gutter
sweet smell that they adore
I think I'd rather smother
-The Replacements-
Punk, Hardcore....throw all those bullshit categories out, what it boiled down to was people fed up with the status quo.....and English and American artists got that message across with equally well.
the other foot in the gutter
sweet smell that they adore
I think I'd rather smother
-The Replacements-
You're entitled to your opinion, even when it's wrong.
the other foot in the gutter
sweet smell that they adore
I think I'd rather smother
-The Replacements-
"Hell, he's more punk than me..."
*irony mode on*
IMO most punk bands sucks...except Good Charlotte
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Im not sure if you are joking here?, although im thinking you most definitely are lol
Im not really into punk, thought the clash were ok, but Good Charlotte?!!! They could record the soundtrack to my worst nightmare.
But look at the size difference. If you're talking overall scene, condensed in to one island that's smaller than Florida, you're talking about England.
And we always will have the best music scene. Nothing beats London. No city in the world is even close to being as rock and roll as London Town.
There's so much shit in America it's not even funny. And the bands who have something to say about that don't seem to break through.
I agree Canada has a lot of great stuff, though.
Besides the obvious.
60's - The Beatles
70's - Led Zeppelin
80's - The Smiths
90's - Radiohead
00's - ???
That's a beautiful musical progression if you ask me. But rock n roll has more or less been done to death. We're trying new things here and it's sh!t hot! I like some of the post punk stuff in America and Canada right now....Arcade Fire, The Shins, TV On The Radio etc...but for an overall scene you can't beat the freshness and vibrancy of London. New York's good although I've only spent a little time there but you don't find as many places like Camden Town or Shoreditch, where it's just gigs gigs gigs, everywhere you look.
Some good stuff there.
Blackbud are keeping the classic rock going strong, trying to be Cream, although they don't realise it but eventually they will.
And then you have the old masters still doing it....Morrisey, Primal Scream, Oasis...and it sounds like the original Blur will get back together. Yeah baby!
The Long Blondes are cool. Fit singer http://static.flickr.com/74/187638020_0572fee9c0_o.jpg
That's another thing. The British Style. We're the best.
My God she's hot http://www.eurobandits.com/lovingliving/issue_4/Long_Blondes_feature/story_images/3
As I was saying...great bands. Great style. What more do you want?
I am very happy with the standard of music in the UK at the moment to be honest.
The UK has Radiohead, Coldplay, Kaiser Chiefs, Travis, Editors, Maximo Park, whatever Damon Albarn's doing at the moment, Razorlight, the Artic Monkeys and a whole slew of up and coming indie acts. On the negative side we have Pete Doherty who can't sing to save his life and is probably the most overrated musician of this decade. Oh yeah, and there's Dido. I looooove Dido and I don't care what any of you think of me for it.
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Is The Coral still around? I've seen them, like 3 years ago at a Dutch festival. Great band to hear and view!
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Gogol Bordello is fucking amazing. I missed them when they came to town and I've been kicking myself ever since. My friends all said it was the best show they've seen and it was ranked in the top 10 of the year in both major newspapers here (I believe it was #1 in one of them)
Oh, and Canada's music scene beats both the States and the UK
.....agree completely (see post #17 in this thread) - it don't get any better than the Canadian music scence right now!!!!!
and they all eat rainbows and pooh butterflies!
They are still together but not sure what they are up to at the moment. I have one of their albums which is pretty good, although i havent listened to it much. I saw them at a music festival a couple of years ago though, and they really were one of the highlights, was very impressed by their live performance.
Im seeing a lot of Canadian people on here claiming that Canada has the best music scene right now. Ive only really heard Arcade Fire, Broken Social Scene and The Dears and they are all very good, but i am not familiar with a lot of the other bands mentioned.
I listen to a lot of UK bands that people in different parts of the world, including the US and Canada, will not even have heard of, so i naturally feel that the UK scene is stronger because im more in the know about what is happening here than elsewhere.
I really like the Long Blondes, started listening to them about a year ago. Kate Jackson is one of the coolest singers out there definitely. Think they are releasing Giddy Stratospheres as their next single, love that song.
Also been listening to the Holloways quite a bit recently, and im looking forward to the Cribs new album which is due out soon.
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Only British band of the past few years that have really caught my attention are Bloc Party, which is strange for me as I like heavier kinda music.
Its just a pity that mongo's like Pete Doherty (who is not a lyrical genius) are still idolized by some. IMO Dirty Pretty Things are far times better than Babyshambles and the Libertines ever were.
There is nothing amazing going on with this genre anymore methinks.
In saying that... the Irish music scene is brutal right now :(
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I have to completely disagree with you with regards to Doherty and Dirty Pretty Things. It is all personal opinion but although i think Pete Doherty is a bit of an idiot, he has written some of my favourite ever songs both with the Libs and Babyshambles. I like Dirty Pretty Things as well, but prefer the Libs and Babyshambles.
I think if a lot of people would perhaps disregard what they read in the papers about Pete Doherty they would probably like his music. I dont idolize him, i dont idolize anyone, but i think he is a talented song writer.
*Awaits people's replies of 'OMG, Pete Doherty is a Junkie!! Talentless waster!!' lol
In fairness though, I did try and listen to him before the whole junkie thing became something to brag about, so at least I gave him a fair trial and his music just wasn't for me... ye can't get fairer than that! Just cos he's a junkie doesn't mean his music is shit... I mean Layne Staley/RHCP etc... wrote some great songs while on drugs!
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