Critics Choice

audiodave

analogueaddict72 wrote:

I'd like to see you name another album since which has had it's impact, not only has it sold exceptionally well it's influence is massive, a Darkside Of the Moon for the 90's and yes I stand by that quote.

We're not talking multi platinum world conquering monsters like U2 & Coldplay or RHCP, this is about the fact that no other rock album as sounded as original since.

I remember when it came out I listened to it 4 times in a row and it still manages to amaze me.

Yes other albums of course before have been more significant but i can't really think of any other album since.

I've no doubt that it's influenced a lot of people, but how many people who claim to be influenced by it would mention that fact if it wasn't considered cool to love OK Computer? It's completely impossible to measure things in terms of terms of influence. Music can influence people in so many ways, but the only time we ever hear about it is in the music business.

I'm well aware that we aren't talking about bands like U2, Coldplay and RHCP, as the media never claims any of them to be as infalable as Radiohead. They're all pretty generic bands IMO.

I can name you albums that have been released in the last ten years that I feel are better than OK Computer, and have influenced me a great deal more than anything Radiohead has ever done, but i'm not going to. It all boils down to the fact that you like Radiohead, and I find them to be grossly overrated.

Jerzdevil

Kid A was better than OK Computer.


I hate critics. Too much ass kissing for too many bands. Arctic Monkeys, Arcade Fire, Led Zeppelin, Kraftwerk, Velvet Underground, The Beatles, Pink Floyd, Sonic Youth, etc. It gets to the point where criticism of any number of bands on the Great Rock Pedestal leads that critic to be shunned and ridiculed. The hype poisons opinions of bands, often to the point where a critic will give an album a good rating because of the band who made it, not necessarily based on the merit of the album itself. For example, I read a review of The Beatles' "Magical Mystery Tour" where the critic said that he would have given it a 5/10 but since it was The Beatles, he gave it an 8/10. I despise shit like that.

analogueaddict72

pjoasisrule wrote:

The fact that you dont think anybody has made a better record since then disgusts me, that fact that you even compared it to Darkside of the Moon disgusts me even more.

I don't believe Ok to be on the same scale as DSOM, PF are my fav band of all time, DSOM has much more years on it and it's impact is always downplayed by critics, it seems it's just not cool to like Floyd, take it from me i've taken some shit for liking this Band.

Floyd is far more important than most of bands critics go on and on about, whereas I like the bands I've listed below I feel they have no where near as much influence as Floyd and have stretched over the different genres and woven into the fabric of music.

If we're talking critics darlings then this list sums it up for me.

Nirvana
The Smiths
The Pixies
White Stripes
Henry Rollins
Wire
Sex Pistols
Jay z
Arctic Monkeys

Your right Radiohead do get overrated and yes I am a huge fan of their music but I don't see any other band challenging Rock like they do, their maybe some band you've seen in your mates basement or something you think is better but the UK for one isn't showing me anything different at all.

I just except more originality from bands and why do Oasis get so much cred, NME slag their albums off but continually big them up as a Band.

They are a second rate pub covers band who've never lived up to their debut, at least RH have tried to challenge the conventions of music, Noel is always making smarmy comments about RH & Blur, Albarn Good Bad etc but the truth is he's a one trick pony with limited ability and a big mouth.

Albarn & Yorke & Co are infinitely more talented, so yes add Oasis to the list never has the Emperors New Clothes comment been so appropriate.

Jeremy1012

analogueaddict72 wrote:

If we're talking critics darlings then this list sums it up for me.

Nirvana
The Smiths
The Pixies
White Stripes
Henry Rollins
Wire
Sex Pistols
Jay z
Arctic Monkeys

the smiths are one of the few "critical darlings" who have ever fully justified the acclaim. fucking incredible band. end of.

pjoasisrule

analogueaddict72 wrote:

I don't believe Ok to be on the same scale as DSOM, PF are my fav band of all time, DSOM has much more years on it and it's impact is always downplayed by critics, it seems it's just not cool to like Floyd, take it from me i've taken some shit for liking this Band.

Floyd is far more important than most of bands critics go on and on about, whereas I like the bands I've listed below I feel they have no where near as much influence as Floyd and have stretched over the different genres and woven into the fabric of music.

If we're talking critics darlings then this list sums it up for me.

Nirvana
The Smiths
The Pixies
White Stripes
Henry Rollins
Wire
Sex Pistols
Jay z
Arctic Monkeys

Your right Radiohead do get overrated and yes I am a huge fan of their music but I don't see any other band challenging Rock like they do, their maybe some band you've seen in your mates basement or something you think is better but the UK for one isn't showing me anything different at all.

I just except more originality from bands and why do Oasis get so much cred, NME slag their albums off but continually big them up as a Band.

They are a second rate pub covers band who've never lived up to their debut, at least RH have tried to challenge the conventions of music, Noel is always making smarmy comments about RH & Blur, Albarn Good Bad etc but the truth is he's a one trick pony with limited ability and a big mouth.

Albarn & Yorke & Co are infinitely more talented, so yes add Oasis to the list never has the Emperors New Clothes comment been so appropriate.

How about you stop ripping off material from the critics and come up with some opinions of your own.

audiodave

analogueaddict72 wrote:

I don't believe Ok to be on the same scale as DSOM, PF are my fav band of all time, DSOM has much more years on it and it's impact is always downplayed by critics, it seems it's just not cool to like Floyd, take it from me i've taken some shit for liking this Band.

Floyd is far more important than most of bands critics go on and on about, whereas I like the bands I've listed below I feel they have no where near as much influence as Floyd and have stretched over the different genres and woven into the fabric of music.

If we're talking critics darlings then this list sums it up for me.

Nirvana
The Smiths
The Pixies
White Stripes
Henry Rollins
Wire
Sex Pistols
Jay z
Arctic Monkeys

Your right Radiohead do get overrated and yes I am a huge fan of their music but I don't see any other band challenging Rock like they do, their maybe some band you've seen in your mates basement or something you think is better but the UK for one isn't showing me anything different at all.

I just except more originality from bands and why do Oasis get so much cred, NME slag their albums off but continually big them up as a Band.

They are a second rate pub covers band who've never lived up to their debut, at least RH have tried to challenge the conventions of music, Noel is always making smarmy comments about RH & Blur, Albarn Good Bad etc but the truth is he's a one trick pony with limited ability and a big mouth.

Albarn & Yorke & Co are infinitely more talented, so yes add Oasis to the list never has the Emperors New Clothes comment been so appropriate.

Fair enough. Radiohead do challenge things, but i'm just not a huge fan. I completely agree with your remarks about NME and Blur though. I was never a huge Blur or Oasis fan, but the diversity of Blur far outshines that of Oasis.

Pearl Jam and toast

Yeah Radiohead gets the hell praised out of them by critics but they've been consistantly brilliant and ever-changing since The Bends. A lot of bands get that attention but Radiohead is one that is more deserving of it.

I'd like to see you name another album since which has had it's impact, not only has it sold exceptionally well it's influence is massive, a Darkside Of the Moon for the 90's and yes I stand by that quote.

I agree completely.

Floyd from Meddle to The Wall is the finest music put out in the 70s.

The Pixies are so fucking good and soooo influential. I don't see how anyone would have a problem with them.

Nirvana's definetly one of those bands. Every single one of it's contemporaries (soundgarden, alice, and pearl jam to be specific) make Nirvana look like a bunch of fools but don't get nearly the credit.

I love Bjork. Don't know much else about her or her reviews, but I love her.

Sex Pistols were one of the greatest punk bands to ever exist..

analogueaddict72

pjoasisrule wrote:

How about you stop ripping off material from the critics and come up with some opinions of your own.

They are my opinions, Oasis in my view are the most overrated Band of the last 15 years, they've never lived up to their debut album just produce uninspired and pale imitations of what went before.

The fact they are still lauded as some jewel in the crown of British music is beyond me, their contribution to music can be summed by their ability to encourage anyone it's possible to be in a band,( not unlike the Sex Pistols) for that they get credit. They revitalized a flagging British music scene with a cracking debut album but since have said nothing already that hasn't been said before.

This will be their legacy. they have contributed practically nothing creative to music apart from encouraging loads of 2nd rate bands to flood the market in the 90's

In that respect Blur (akin to the clash) were far more instrumental in influencing people musically and were far more deserving of a Brit for contribution to British music.