I can only hope that they actually demonstrate this. "Part Of Me" really didn't do much to wow anyone.
I'm amazed that so many people seem to think they've heard "Part of Me" after hearing 4 bars in a Verizon commercial and another 4 bars in a ringtone.
I mean.....wait to form an opinion until you've at least heard the song. So far the whole album is being kept very carefully under wraps. Afaik, only Interscope execs and Chris's management have heard any more than the abovementioned 8 bars.
I'm amazed that so many people seem to think they've heard "Part of Me" after hearing 4 bars in a Verizon commercial and another 4 bars in a ringtone.
I mean.....wait to form an opinion until you've at least heard the song. So far the whole album is being kept very carefully under wraps. Afaik, only Interscope execs and Chris's management have heard any more than the abovementioned 8 bars.
Okay, if we're being pedantic... "The 30 second clips of "Part Of Me" really didn't do much to wow anyone." And I'm pretty confident that one of said clips is the chorus to the song, since it uses the lyric "Part Of Me". I didn't like it. At all.
I'm amazed that so many people seem to think they've heard "Part of Me" after hearing 4 bars in a Verizon commercial and another 4 bars in a ringtone.
Strange how things work out, that small clip we heard ages ago was a pretty good indicator of how the full song would turn out
If I were to rank Cornell's solo albums (bearing in mind we've only heard about half of Scream), this would be mine -
Euphoria Morning
Scream
Carry On
EM is miles away better than the other two. But say what you want about Scream, at least it's different. After digesting it for about a year and a half, Carry On is just fucking bland. His voice is boring, the production's too slick, songs are just Audioslave knock offs. One thing I kept saying when Carry On came out was that I'd love to see Cornell use his voice in different ways, similar to that Hendrix cover he did of Hey Baby or Broken City from the Revelations album. Looks like that's what he did, albeit in a pretty unconvential way.
Still, his vocals are something else now. Part Of Me is dogshite to me but those vocals (not the lyrics ) are brilliant.
Strange how things work out, that small clip we heard ages ago was a pretty good indicator of how the full song would turn out
If I were to rank Cornell's solo albums (bearing in mind we've only heard about half of Scream), this would be mine -
Euphoria Morning
Scream
Carry On
EM is miles away better than the other two. But say what you want about Scream, at least it's different. After digesting it for about a year and a half, Carry On is just fucking bland. His voice is boring, the production's too slick, songs are just Audioslave knock offs. One thing I kept saying when Carry On came out was that I'd love to see Cornell use his voice in different ways, similar to that Hendrix cover he did of Hey Baby or Broken City from the Revelations album. Looks like that's what he did, albeit in a pretty unconvential way.
Still, his vocals are something else now. Part Of Me is dogshite to me but those vocals (not the lyrics ) are brilliant.
I dunno, he did change his vocals up on some songs on Carry On - I loved the falsetto on Ghosts. And I do enjoy a handful of songs from it. But his vocals were still in the recovery stage, and the whole album screams of a rush effort.
Scream just feels soulless to me, I think that review someone posted yesterday pretty much sums it up - it sounds like Cornell is doing a cameo appearence on his own songs.
I don't know why people are letting rip at Carry On. I know it's not as good as EM, but to me, it's a solid album with tracks like Save and Sound, Ghosts, Billie Jean and Disappearing Act.
The only track I thought weak was:- She's Not Your Man (I really don't like that song, i can't even get the title right). 15 out of 16 tracks isn't that bad.
EM is a masterpiece - perhaps it came at the time when everyone was feeling low and it brought a sense of Euphoria into their lives (excuse the pun). CC worked well with Alain and Natasha and most of her input I like (I'm not too keen on her contribution to When I'm Down, but I grew accustomed to it as time went on.)
Like Face Pollution said Scream is soulless. I still can't believe that someone who wrong beautiful songs such as Moon Child can write A Part of Me. This is worse than Ground Zero and the monkey yelps.
He also said Chris is doing a cameo of his own songs. That's what I think too.
The depth is as shallow as paddling pool water and pro-tools could have done a better production than Timberland.
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Euphoria Morning is clearly one of Chris' defining moments but I thoroughly enjoyed Carry On. I've said it before, and I'll say it again; the songwriting is solid. The problems: his voice, the musicians (and the lack of a band atmosphere), the lacklustre production and the general rushed feel of the whole thing. Carry On could have been a lot more than it was, which is a real shame.
this without a doubt measures up to all the sg albums i think.
i just think this album is so fucking brilliant! the music is so psychedelic and atmospheric, the lyrics fantastic, and the vocals out of this world!
Euphoria Morning is clearly one of Chris' defining moments but I thoroughly enjoyed Carry On. I've said it before, and I'll say it again; the songwriting is solid. The problems: his voice, the musicians (and the lack of a band atmosphere), the lacklustre production and the general rushed feel of the whole thing. Carry On could have been a lot more than it was, which is a real shame.
i agree with this on Carry On. It could have been much, much better. It's just way, way too rushed. Some time and thought put into the vocals and instruments would have made it much better. We'll always have EM, at least.
Euphoria Morning is clearly one of Chris' defining moments but I thoroughly enjoyed Carry On. I've said it before, and I'll say it again; the songwriting is solid. The problems: his voice, the musicians (and the lack of a band atmosphere), the lacklustre production and the general rushed feel of the whole thing. Carry On could have been a lot more than it was, which is a real shame.
I agree. I love EM, it was my first introduction to CC. I have since listened to everything I can get my hands on...most of it I love, some not so much. But I think his songwriting is some of the best ever. I got to see him live in November of 2007, and it was amazing. I was two rows off the stage! I am not a concert fan (don't like crowds), but it was phenomenal.
Sorry, off track a bit...EM is something I always go back to. Love Mission, When I'm Down, and Wave Goodbye...hell, I love 'em all!
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euphoria morning is certainly one of the high points of his career. i feel like it didn't do too well, sales-wise, when it was released. is that right? maybe if it had sold like hotcakes, he would've just kept making solo records throughout the 00s...no audioslave...who knows where he'd be now...
It's a glorious record, one of my favourites. The songs, the playing, the vocals, everything about this record is beautiful.......that's how come this new one is such an abhoration :(
euphoria morning is certainly one of the high points of his career. i feel like it didn't do too well, sales-wise, when it was released. is that right? maybe if it had sold like hotcakes, he would've just kept making solo records throughout the 00s...no audioslave...who knows where he'd be now...
No, it didn't do well at all. At least not by the standards Soundgarden set with their last two albums. I remember radio picked up "Can't Change Me" a few weeks before the album was released, and they dropped it pretty quickly.
I definitely feel its the best thing he's done since Soundgarden. As far as sales go, if he had a lead single in the vein of "Outshined" or something it probably would have performed much better. A lot of the negative reviews I read when it was first released claimed he was too out of his element. But if you had heard Seasons or Sunshower, or the mellow moments of TOTD it was no surprise. I personally love that side of his music.
Supposedly he was working on his 2nd solo album when Rubin contacted him about working with the guys from RATM.
No, it didn't do well at all. At least not by the standards Soundgarden set with their last two albums. I remember radio picked up "Can't Change Me" a few weeks before the album was released, and they dropped it pretty quickly.
I definitely feel its the best thing he's done since Soundgarden. As far as sales go, if he had a lead single in the vein of "Outshined" or something it probably would have performed much better. A lot of the negative reviews I read when it was first released claimed he was too out of his element. But if you had heard Seasons or Sunshower, or the mellow moments of TOTD it was no surprise. I personally love that side of his music.
Supposedly he was working on his 2nd solo album when Rubin contacted him about working with the guys from RATM.
And what are the reasons it didn't sell well? a)May be nothing on the album would give a good impression coming after SG. b)Possibly the album doesn't really have a single. Really, its my favorite album right now and has been a long time favorite for many years, but the songs aren't suited to the casual radio listener. Still, Pillow of Your Bones and Mission and Moonchild and even When I'm Down would have done better so... c)May be its the single choosen. I do like Can't Change Me, but not near as much as the rest of the album. When it was a single I thought, "What is this pop shit? He's a fruit." But, hey, I was younger and less open then. Which brings me back to reason a.
But... whatever, right? We are of deeper musical listening taste here Only thing is, it would be nice to have more albums in the relative area of EM. At this point, I'm hoping two drink minimum is sign of a future bluesy/ soul album.
I always thought "Mission" should have been the first single. Not because it is my favorite, but because it was the most Soundgardenish and were more what people were expecting. I agree "Can't Change Me" was the wrong choice for a single. But the album is a masterpiece in my book. And it is one of those that you hear something new everytime you listen to it.
'When I'm Down' is a song my girlfriend and I listen to all the time, and we consider one of 'our' songs.
Damn that album kicks ass.
I tihnk my favorite song of his though is Sunshower, it's gorgeous!
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You have to think about the musical climate at that time. Any kind of rock music that didn't have loud guitars or rapping in it was going to have a hard time finding success.
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You have to think about the musical climate at that time. Any kind of rock music that didn't have loud guitars or rapping in it was going to have a hard time finding success.
But... whatever, right? We are of deeper musical listening taste here Only thing is, it would be nice to have more albums in the relative area of EM. At this point, I'm hoping two drink minimum is sign of a future bluesy/ soul album.
I'd love to see that. What I'd really like though, especially since his voice has pretty much returned to form, is an album of mostly acoustic material. I think Sweet Euphoria is the best song on that album, and its the most stripped down and simplistic.
so it's rick rubin's fault! (not really a fan of audioslave...)
but seriously, i wonder what happened to those songs. did they become audioslave songs? or is he sitting on euphoria morning 2: euphoria afternoon?
Not 100% sure of this but I think The Curse was originally a Cornell solo song that never saw the light of day. I'm pretty sure the actual lyrics for the song (some lines may have been changed) were floating around long before Out Of Exile came out.
Would have loved to see The Curse done as a Cornell solo song becuase I think Audioslave (read: Tom Morello) fucked that song up big time.
Yep, prefer that demo to the version that wound up on the album for sure. That song was actually written and recorded circa '92. It was part of the "Poncier" cd. As Chris told it on Rockline back in '94, if I remember correctly, he took those song titles that Jeff Ament helped come up with for Matt Dillon's character in Singles. He wrote and recorded the songs. Flutter Girl was among them, as was Nowhere But You and Spoonman. I'd love to hear what else came out of that, but those are the only three I know of...maybe "Missing"? Cornell had said he recorded about 10 songs from that.
But that version of Flutter Girl wasn't actually a demo from the EM sessions, it goes back to 1992.
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now I need to pull it out again too!!!
Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
I'm amazed that so many people seem to think they've heard "Part of Me" after hearing 4 bars in a Verizon commercial and another 4 bars in a ringtone.
I mean.....wait to form an opinion until you've at least heard the song.
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Strange how things work out, that small clip we heard ages ago was a pretty good indicator of how the full song would turn out
If I were to rank Cornell's solo albums (bearing in mind we've only heard about half of Scream), this would be mine -
Euphoria Morning
Scream
Carry On
EM is miles away better than the other two. But say what you want about Scream, at least it's different. After digesting it for about a year and a half, Carry On is just fucking bland. His voice is boring, the production's too slick, songs are just Audioslave knock offs. One thing I kept saying when Carry On came out was that I'd love to see Cornell use his voice in different ways, similar to that Hendrix cover he did of Hey Baby or Broken City from the Revelations album. Looks like that's what he did, albeit in a pretty unconvential way.
Still, his vocals are something else now. Part Of Me is dogshite to me but those vocals (not the lyrics
I dunno, he did change his vocals up on some songs on Carry On - I loved the falsetto on Ghosts. And I do enjoy a handful of songs from it. But his vocals were still in the recovery stage, and the whole album screams of a rush effort.
Scream just feels soulless to me, I think that review someone posted yesterday pretty much sums it up - it sounds like Cornell is doing a cameo appearence on his own songs.
The only track I thought weak was:- She's Not Your Man (I really don't like that song, i can't even get the title right). 15 out of 16 tracks isn't that bad.
EM is a masterpiece - perhaps it came at the time when everyone was feeling low and it brought a sense of Euphoria into their lives (excuse the pun). CC worked well with Alain and Natasha and most of her input I like (I'm not too keen on her contribution to When I'm Down, but I grew accustomed to it as time went on.)
Like Face Pollution said Scream is soulless. I still can't believe that someone who wrong beautiful songs such as Moon Child can write A Part of Me. This is worse than Ground Zero and the monkey yelps.
He also said Chris is doing a cameo of his own songs. That's what I think too.
The depth is as shallow as paddling pool water and pro-tools could have done a better production than Timberland.
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i agree with this on Carry On. It could have been much, much better. It's just way, way too rushed. Some time and thought put into the vocals and instruments would have made it much better. We'll always have EM, at least.
Sorry, off track a bit...EM is something I always go back to. Love Mission, When I'm Down, and Wave Goodbye...hell, I love 'em all!
I definitely feel its the best thing he's done since Soundgarden. As far as sales go, if he had a lead single in the vein of "Outshined" or something it probably would have performed much better. A lot of the negative reviews I read when it was first released claimed he was too out of his element. But if you had heard Seasons or Sunshower, or the mellow moments of TOTD it was no surprise. I personally love that side of his music.
Supposedly he was working on his 2nd solo album when Rubin contacted him about working with the guys from RATM.
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And what are the reasons it didn't sell well? a)May be nothing on the album would give a good impression coming after SG. b)Possibly the album doesn't really have a single. Really, its my favorite album right now and has been a long time favorite for many years, but the songs aren't suited to the casual radio listener. Still, Pillow of Your Bones and Mission and Moonchild and even When I'm Down would have done better so... c)May be its the single choosen. I do like Can't Change Me, but not near as much as the rest of the album. When it was a single I thought, "What is this pop shit? He's a fruit." But, hey, I was younger and less open then. Which brings me back to reason a.
But... whatever, right? We are of deeper musical listening taste here
Damn that album kicks ass.
I tihnk my favorite song of his though is Sunshower, it's gorgeous!
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You have to think about the musical climate at that time. Any kind of rock music that didn't have loud guitars or rapping in it was going to have a hard time finding success.
If you hate something, don't you do it too
True dat.
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so it's rick rubin's fault! (not really a fan of audioslave...)
but seriously, i wonder what happened to those songs. did they become audioslave songs? or is he sitting on euphoria morning 2: euphoria afternoon?
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if you have never heard the whole album, you are in for a real treat. one of my favorite albums front to back of all time.
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I'd love to hear an all acoustic album. If you haven't heard the Demo version of Flutter Girl, listen to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqu8UqAFItc
Makes me wonder how many of his songs start out like this, and how many he might have recorded. Maybe one day he'll release more of them.
Not 100% sure of this but I think The Curse was originally a Cornell solo song that never saw the light of day. I'm pretty sure the actual lyrics for the song (some lines may have been changed) were floating around long before Out Of Exile came out.
Would have loved to see The Curse done as a Cornell solo song becuase I think Audioslave (read: Tom Morello) fucked that song up big time.
But that version of Flutter Girl wasn't actually a demo from the EM sessions, it goes back to 1992.
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