New Respect For Billie - Green Day
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Looked like way old Green Day, like early 90s.
I'm lost as to what pissed him off though...
Are you one of those ignorant kids? It was a spontaneous ass whooping towards someone who was being a douche bag. Billie doesn't gloat or wallow in this event and it's not a common thing for him to do this. And just because they have a large following of younger fans doesn't make them teenyboppers.
Can you see me now
I am myself
Like you somehow
I'll ride the wave
Where it takes me
I'll hold the pain
Release me
Take a look in the mirror, you're the one defending him, kiddo.
Yeah what an ass whooping, he had to Bruce Lee stomp the guy from a stage.
Green Day is one of those bands you're embarassed to have listened to when you were 14. You out grow it (hopefully) and move on.
Let it go, you don't have to try and defend yourself, just burn your Green Day records and get a life. Don't worry, I'll understand. Kiddo.
His music has always appealed to young people, it's just now there is a bit more of a message going with it - if you don't agree with the message, too bad. That doesn't make it bad music.
The little bitch in the crowd wouldn't come up stage so he went down. That kid would've lost anyway seeing as he was an all-talk pussy.
[size=+5]I LOVE GREEN DAY, PAST AND PRESENT.[/size]
***spinning Warning right now***
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Oh don't worry, I'll never give him the title of "punk Rocker".
When describing that guy, make sure you get "pop" somewhere into it.
Other absolutely terrible pop punk bands that go hand in hand with Green Day are as follows; Blink 182, Sum 41, New Found Glory, Good Charlotte, Simple Plan etc etc.
There is so much good music out there, why waste your time with such a mainstream, fake, trendy, obnoxiously terrible act? Oh, your probably young, don't worry then, you'll grow out of it. If your smart.
Lollapalooza. 8.5.07 West Palm Beach. 6.11.08 Bonnaroo. 6.14.08
Hartford. Mansfield.
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Now don't quote me on this but I've heard these noble "punks" charge upwards of 120.00 for a ticket to one of their super shows. If I was a fan, I wouldn't spend more than 25.00 for a show. And I'm not a hypocrite, I haven't seen PJ since 2000, when they played three days in a row in Seattle for like 20.00
Yeah, your right. Green day is Pop Punk. they are nothing like The Casualties or rancid. Thanks for correcting me. I do agre with you that the other bands you listed suck. However I do like green day and like you said I am young so who knows, I might grow out of it
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I'm glad I could help. If you'd like to learn more about punk rock and just "rock" for that matter, tune in tomorrow night online at kser.org at 8:00 pm Pacific for B-Sides, the show I host weekly on 90.7 FM.
my assertion is the complete opposite.
"slappy hours," "kerplunk" and "dookie" was pure pop-punk driven by teen angst, heartache and the politics of boredom.
"insomniac," "nimrod" and "warning" were amazingly produced records that showed good songwriting, but slowly slipped away from meaningful (punk) music.
"american idiot" was the biggest load of bullshit (that i am embarrassed to say i bought into for a couple months) fueled by verizon wireless, watered-down liberalism, and eye-liner. a COMPLETE failure for their fans who had been moved by the music and the messages, and a COMPLETE success for people who are easily persuaded by imagery and simple statements.
LIKE I SAID, no matter what Billie Boy does now, i can't have respect for the dude(tte). i will respect him if he comes out and says how much money he got to throw away his credibility.
Utter rubbish. First of all get over the whole eyeliner thing, boys wearing makeup is hardly a new thing, and most importantly it has nothing to do with the music. Secondly, all they were ever doing was singing about the things they cared about. If the album had flopped they wouldn't catch half the shit they do becuase of its success. I can only presume you have an issue with the message they are singing about. To throw away your credibility is to do something you don't truly believe in - I'm willing to bet you that he still stands by every word on that album.
But at least they are trying to educate their fans, and that is what seperates them from utter shite like Good Charlotte.
The Bible is full of lies - Stone is the leader of us all!
the eyeliner thing is an issue. why did he start dressing up like an emo chick all of a sudden? did it come with the "message" of american idiot or did some publicist tell him that every other pop-punk band is doing it right now? i'll never know the real answer, but with the blatant commercial success of the record, i think i have an idea. i clearly remember during green day's behind the music (filmed in 2000 or 2001) that bllie bob said something along the lines of, "i wanna grow up, i dont wanna be a 30-year old kid and keep playing kiddie music." well, dressing up like a 13-year old my chemical romance fanatic certainly isn't growing up.
if the album flopped, it would have had the same affect on me. the music on the record is a joke. just because you stand up and write some cheesy lines about how much the government sucks doesn't make you political. yes, it is risky and takes courage to be political band, but if you don't know what the hell you are talking about, then you look incredibly stupid...such as green day.
and i am sure billie boy stands by every word he wrote, but they are weak, childish words. it doesn't impress me the least bit.
i am sure vh1 and rolling stone magazine will treat green day as one of the great, political punk bands with a message of our time. but every punk fan knows green day is the polar opposite of what punk rock is about.
thus, i am sorry, i STILL will never have respect for billie joey armystrongy.
Can I just clarify, do you disagree with the band's stance on the war?
first of all, i am anti-war. bush is a horrible leader. i lean left.
green day is dumbing-down the message. sure, they are probably anti-war, but they don't know why, they are just riding on the popuar anti-bush aura in the country.
they are not political by any means. i would put $100 on that billie bob doesn't know 5 senators. $200 says he doesn't know who the current secretary of defense is.
it's easy as hell to stand up on Mtv and say you are against George Bush to a bunch of 12-year old cunts. there's no real message behind green day's music. none.
Your probably right. there are quite a few bands that jumped the anti Bush wagon
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my response might have been a little bit of an overkill and snobby, but yeah man, i think a lot of uneducated bands "became" political for publicity, not because they were concerned with the state of the union.
Seriously stop and listen to yourself, "12-year old cunts" - cause God forbid you were once a twelve year old, how fucking narrow-minded. Is it incoceivable that 12 year old kids are only part of their audience? What makes me laugh more than anything, is that people judged bands like Pearl Jam and their fans just as harshly when they seemingly got big over night. Do you seriously think all the people who bought Ten and Vs were all fans of deep, thought-provoking music?! NO, there were millions of people who bought those records because Pearl Jam happened to be the 'in' thing at the time. Pearl Jam were referred to as the commerical face of grunge, but without knowing a band personally, you have no real way of knowing what their true intentions are. Your views are just as biased by the media outlets that propagate them, as those people who base their political opinions solely on a particular band they listen to.
I think some people have short memories too, back in 2004, emo (cause that term is any more descriptive than 'grunge' was) was not where it is today. My chemical romance, Fall out boy and Panic at the disco were all far from big, so exactly what band wagon were Green Day jumping on? By most people's standards, Green Day were considered a completely spent force. I totally understand why people hate the fact that AI has sold so well, this sort of thing isn't supposed to happen.
The album itself has some amazing songs, only maybe a couple being solely based on the war (American Idiot, Holiday). Jesus of Suburbia, Are we the Waiting, Boulevard of broken dreams etc are based more on the everyday struggles that the 'average Joe' experiences. Themes of loneliness, disaffection, lack of identity, bereavement, and lost hope are just as high up the agenda. The fact this is coming from a guy as rich as Billie Joe Armstrong proves that he hasn't betrayed his roots entirely - it's not like AI was a sure-fire hit.
What you seemingly can't separate is Green Day the all-conquering commercial success, whose album and image were high-jacked by the various corporate institutions that knew they could make money out of their success; and the Green Day that humbley set about writing an album about the things that they cared about deep down. It's easy to see Green Day as being these smug liberal, know-nothing chancers, BUT without the album's success, they would never have drawn such vehement criticism. Ultimately you are judging Green Day the 'commercial package' and not them as a band.
This is from a young girl, who admittingly states that listening to Green Day is foolish, but she might grow out of it.
If you want to listen to punk and need a left wing message attached, there's an endless amount of bands who are amazingly talented that would most definately suffice.
Oh and the fact that these songs he wrote are about everyday struggles versus those of a millionares, is because he's trying to get paid. And you got suckered into the swindle.