Canadian Music - Past and Present

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  • MCG
    MCG Posts: 780
    exhausted wrote:
    and i will say that the music being produced by canadian bands is better today than in the 90s but won't have a shot at having an impact beyond these borders. not in a commercial sense anyway.

    You never know, the tide seems to be turning these days towards a different sound. Good underground scenes can only stay underground for so long. The true innovators probably won't get recognized, but as in most cases, a commercially oriented bastardization of the original genre could hit it big. Green Day did it with Dookie, Metallica did it with the Black Album, I think it could happen.
    Which came first,
    the bad idea or me befallen by it?
  • direwolf74
    direwolf74 Posts: 1,622
    Todd76 wrote:
    I see - OLP sucks, whats that saying about people in glass houses...in my opinion Matt Good, OLP, the Hip and especially Moist and the Tea Party SUCK....to each their own. I still enjoy the rock and roll - i'm on a Pearl Jam board after all.....it just has to be interesting/intense music that makes an emotional connection. All those bands I mentioned just bore the crap out of me....so i'm not shitting on rock in general - just boring rock

    I totally agree with you regarding OLP, Moist, the Tea Party, etc...but I don't think the Hip belong in that list. Compared to those bands, the Hip are in another stratosphere, and they easily give bands like Pearl Jam a run for their money. Now I'll admit I'm a little biased here because I'm a huge fan of the band, and I'll defend them until the day I die. But I think Gord Downie is by far one of the most unique and talented individuals in music, and the band as a whole are just as interesting and intense as any artist out there, especially on recent albums. As a live act they're in a league of their own. I saw them at the Sasquatch Festival this year, and they've still got it. With the exception of maybe Ben Harper, I thought the Hip blew everybody else off the stage. Every time I walk out of one of their shows, I'm convinced I've just seen the best live band on the planet, and it seems like they only get better with age. Comparing OLP to the Hip is like trying to compare Budweiser to a fine bottle of wine.

    Just my opinion of course. To each their own.
    "I try my best to chug, stomp, weep, whisper, moan, wheeze, scat, blurt, rage, whine, and seduce. With my voice I can sound like a girl, the boogieman, a Theremin, a cherry bomb, a clown, a doctor, a murderer. I can be tribal. Ironic. Or disturbed. My voice is really my instrument."

    -Tom Waits
  • MCG
    MCG Posts: 780
    direwolf74 wrote:
    I totally agree with you regarding OLP, Moist, the Tea Party, etc...but I don't think the Hip belong in that list. Compared to those bands, the Hip are in another stratosphere, and they easily give bands like Pearl Jam a run for their money. Now I'll admit I'm a little biased here because I'm a huge fan of the band, and I'll defend them until the day I die. But I think Gord Downie is by far one of the most unique and talented individuals in music, and the band as a whole are just as interesting and intense as any artist out there, especially on recent albums. As a live act they're in a league of their own. I saw them at the Sasquatch Festival this year, and they've still got it. With the exception of maybe Ben Harper, I thought the Hip blew everybody else off the stage. Every time I walk out of one of their shows, I'm convinced I've just seen the best live band on the planet, and it seems like they only get better with age. Comparing OLP to the Hip is like trying to compare Budweiser to a fine bottle of wine.

    Boo ya! Their live show is unmatched alright, sometimes I get the feeling they would play all night if they could. I'm very jealous of your Sasquatch experience!
    Which came first,
    the bad idea or me befallen by it?
  • direwolf74
    direwolf74 Posts: 1,622
    MCG wrote:
    You never know, the tide seems to be turning these days towards a different sound. Good underground scenes can only stay underground for so long. The true innovators probably won't get recognized, but as in most cases, a commercially oriented bastardization of the original genre could hit it big. Green Day did it with Dookie, Metallica did it with the Black Album, I think it could happen.

    It's already starting to happen. Artists like the Arcade Fire, Feist, Broken Social Scene, and the New Pornographers are getting a lot of recognition outside of Canadian borders, especially in Europe and the U.S. This country is producing some of the most exciting, unique, and vibrant rock n' roll in the world right now, and music fans and critics the world over are salivating over it. Sorry America, but Canada is the place to be right now.
    "I try my best to chug, stomp, weep, whisper, moan, wheeze, scat, blurt, rage, whine, and seduce. With my voice I can sound like a girl, the boogieman, a Theremin, a cherry bomb, a clown, a doctor, a murderer. I can be tribal. Ironic. Or disturbed. My voice is really my instrument."

    -Tom Waits
  • MCG
    MCG Posts: 780
    direwolf74 wrote:
    Sorry America, but Canada is the place to be right now.

    The only things we need to apologize for are Nickelback and Simple Plan.
    Which came first,
    the bad idea or me befallen by it?
  • direwolf74
    direwolf74 Posts: 1,622
    MCG wrote:
    The only things we need to apologize for are Nickelback and Simple Plan.

    Don't forget Theory of a Nickelcreed, Avril Lavigne, Sum 41, Default, and Three Days Grace. God, I feel sick to my stomach just typing those names. I think I just puked in my mouth a little bit.
    "I try my best to chug, stomp, weep, whisper, moan, wheeze, scat, blurt, rage, whine, and seduce. With my voice I can sound like a girl, the boogieman, a Theremin, a cherry bomb, a clown, a doctor, a murderer. I can be tribal. Ironic. Or disturbed. My voice is really my instrument."

    -Tom Waits
  • MCG
    MCG Posts: 780
    direwolf74 wrote:
    Don't forget Theory of a Nickelcreed, Avril Lavigne, Sum 41, Default, and Three Days Grace. God, I feel sick to my stomach just typing those names. I think I just puked in my mouth a little bit.

    I would forget them if I could. It still fries my bacon that Three Days Grace are opening for both Rolling Stones shows I'm going to.
    Which came first,
    the bad idea or me befallen by it?
  • direwolf74
    direwolf74 Posts: 1,622
    MCG wrote:
    I would forget them if I could. It still fries my bacon that Three Days Grace are opening for both Rolling Stones shows I'm going to.

    Yikes, that's horrendous. I'm sorry to hear that. Pardon my vulgarity, but who's cock did they suck to get that gig? In Halifax they get Sloan as the opening act, and the Regina shows get Three Days Grace?? That doesn't seem fair to me.
    "I try my best to chug, stomp, weep, whisper, moan, wheeze, scat, blurt, rage, whine, and seduce. With my voice I can sound like a girl, the boogieman, a Theremin, a cherry bomb, a clown, a doctor, a murderer. I can be tribal. Ironic. Or disturbed. My voice is really my instrument."

    -Tom Waits
  • MCG
    MCG Posts: 780
    direwolf74 wrote:
    Yikes, that's horrendous. I'm sorry to hear that. Pardon my vulgarity, but who's cock did they suck to get that gig? In Halifax they get Sloan as the opening act, and the Regina shows get Three Days Grace?? That doesn't seem fair to me.

    Me neither, especially when I saw the Halifax lineup. I'm super grateful they are comming though, I can always drop by the merch tables when Three Days Grace plays, hopefully they won't play long.

    However, they are still looking for someone to use the stage the Saturday in between the two Stones shows and I've heard rumours it could be the Hip! They are just rumours at this point mind you but it sure would be proper timing with the new album comming out a week later.
    Which came first,
    the bad idea or me befallen by it?
  • Todd76
    Todd76 Posts: 1,469
    direwolf74 wrote:
    It's already starting to happen. Artists like the Arcade Fire, Feist, Broken Social Scene, and the New Pornographers are getting a lot of recognition outside of Canadian borders, especially in Europe and the U.S. This country is producing some of the most exciting, unique, and vibrant rock n' roll in the world right now, and music fans and critics the world over are salivating over it. Sorry America, but Canada is the place to be right now.


    My sentiments exactly....in fact if I didnt know better I would have thought I wrote this (although I would have included Wolf Parade, Stars, Sarah Harmer and the Dears).....brilliant!!!!!!!
    In my world everyone is a pony,
    and they all eat rainbows and pooh butterflies!
  • Todd76
    Todd76 Posts: 1,469
    I actually saw Hayden (LOVE him - and he's still putting out GREAT albums)and Broken Social Scene pop up on the Best Live Band thread (from two people not from Canada).....that gets me so excited,

    I feel like all I do on this board is hype/praise the Canadian music scene....its just sooooo damn good here right now - makes me want to shout it from the rooftops

    ....as Combat Baby - Metric comes on the radio - its a great time to be a music fan in Canada
    In my world everyone is a pony,
    and they all eat rainbows and pooh butterflies!
  • Cropduster84
    Cropduster84 Posts: 1,283
    Is K-OS not Canadian?

    Great music.
    'The more I studied religions the more I am convinced that man never worshipped anything but himself.' - Sir Richard Francis Burton
  • Todd76
    Todd76 Posts: 1,469
    Cropduster84 wrote:
    Is K-OS not Canadian?

    Great music.

    Yes he is.....not a big fan - just havent heard much (I have liked what I have heard) I just heard his brand new single yesterday....not too bad
    In my world everyone is a pony,
    and they all eat rainbows and pooh butterflies!
  • direwolf74
    direwolf74 Posts: 1,622
    Todd76 wrote:
    Yes he is.....not a big fan - just havent heard much (I have liked what I have heard) I just heard his brand new single yesterday....not too bad

    His album "Joyful Rebellion" is absolutely brilliant. It's intelligent rap for intelligent music fans. I don't usually listen to a lot of rap music, but K-OS brings so much more to the table than other artists in the genre. He's a gifted rapper and singer, but he's also a great lyricist, songwriter and musician. I saw him live in Ottawa a couple of years back, and the dude also plays a mean guitar and piano.
    "I try my best to chug, stomp, weep, whisper, moan, wheeze, scat, blurt, rage, whine, and seduce. With my voice I can sound like a girl, the boogieman, a Theremin, a cherry bomb, a clown, a doctor, a murderer. I can be tribal. Ironic. Or disturbed. My voice is really my instrument."

    -Tom Waits
  • Cropduster84
    Cropduster84 Posts: 1,283
    direwolf74 wrote:
    His album "Joyful Rebellion" is absolutely brilliant. It's intelligent rap for intelligent music fans. I don't usually listen to a lot of rap music, but K-OS brings so much more to the table than other artists in the genre. He's a gifted rapper and singer, but he's also a great lyricist, songwriter and musician. I saw him live in Ottawa a couple of years back, and the dude also plays a mean guitar and piano.

    Its amazing isn't it. PROPER Hip hop, none of that 50 Cent bullshit.

    'Man I used To Be' is a beautiful song, great great lyrics.
    'The more I studied religions the more I am convinced that man never worshipped anything but himself.' - Sir Richard Francis Burton
  • caifan82
    caifan82 Mexico City Posts: 321
    Man, The Tea Party was awesome! I was a big fan.

    Stupid Jeff Martin, why did he had to go solo?
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  • exhausted
    exhausted Posts: 6,638
    caifan82 wrote:
    Man, The Tea Party was awesome! I was a big fan.

    Stupid Jeff Martin, why did he had to go solo?


    given the regard he paid to his former bandmates after they disbanded, i can imagine exactly why he had to go solo.
  • caifan82
    caifan82 Mexico City Posts: 321
    exhausted wrote:
    given the regard he paid to his former bandmates after they disbanded, i can imagine exactly why he had to go solo.

    Do you have more information about why they disbanded exactly? Or was it only Jeff Martin's idea?
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  • exhausted
    exhausted Posts: 6,638
    i really don't know. but he was pretty shit to them in interviews... he did all the work etc. etc. the creative force blah blah blah. thinking he's led zeppelin calibre and all...

    he was taking himself waaaay too seriously so i'd imagine it wasn't any fun being in a band with him anyway.

    a friend went to his solo show here and said he was basically grovelling for support since his record pretty much DOA'ed.

    i don't know if the other two even released a statement about the whole deal.
  • melodyman22
    melodyman22 Posts: 326
    Saying that OLP suck, and that Moist sucks. Tells me those posters dont know much about Canadian music. Moist had I feel one of Canada's best singers ever, David Usher what a voice and great live too. OLP are a great band and made some kick ass records. Bands like Billy Talent are garbage he cant sing, his name should be Billy no Talent.

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