my chemical romance - the black parade (stream entire album)

bharQ

JSBE wrote:

did i say that? yeah, i don't think i did so don't put words in my mouth ok?

and just to let you know, "really bad" or even mediocre music has been in the mainstream for...um...i don't know...30, 40 maybe 50 years now? wouldn't that mean that many generations have been dumbed down from possibly our grandparents to our parents to us?

go reread what you said jackass.. im not gonna quote you again.. like seriously how old are you? really bad music has EXISTED in the last 50 years yes.. but how can you say it was mainstream? PEARL JAM was considered mainstream in the early 90s... mainstream doesn't right away mean bad music.. some times the masses actually connect to real music... it happened in the early 90s and the late 60s.

*flicks sidepart*

JSBE

bharQ wrote:

go reread what you said jackass.. im not gonna quote you again.. like seriously how old are you? really bad music has EXISTED in the last 50 years yes.. but how can you say it was mainstream? PEARL JAM was considered mainstream in the early 90s... mainstream doesn't right away mean bad music.. some times the masses actually connect to real music... it happened in the early 90s and the late 60s.

*flicks sidepart*

i'm 29, how old are you? does my age even matter in this thread? on this board? are you disappointed that i'm not 12 and shop at hot topic?

i reread what i said...what don't you seem to understand? or what do you think i don't understand about what i have already said?

yes, i can say that really bad music has existed for the last 50 years and it was in the mainstream. look at the late 70s with disco and most of the 80s with new wave and hair metal power ballads and richard marx - some pretty shit music to go around and i'm damn sure that a lot of it was popular. i mean, there was kasey kasem and the top 40 countdown. there were a lot of cassingles to be sold. there was vanilla ice and mc hammer and i could go on and on...i'm not really following your side of the arguement.

i don't recall saying that "mainstream = crap" because i know i didn't. if i did specifically state that, please, by all means, let me know.

lastly, who are YOU to say that my chemical romance or panic at the disco or fall-out boy or whatever 'whiney emo shit' isn't real music? you make it sound like if your 14 year old son/daughter had one of these albums you would kick them out of the house or burn it and force them to appreciate something you wanted them to listen to.

oh yeah, what the hell does *flicks sidepart* mean?

JSBE

chrisopalooza wrote:

THANK YOU. it seems like in the late 90s people started saying, "oh they play their own instruments" or "oh they write their own music" justifying that the band was ok. fuuuuuuuck that! just because you hold a god damn guitar in front of you does not make you a musician, and it sure as fuck doesn't make you a good musician.

coincidently i happened to catch that little penis band my chemical douche on SNL last night and i couldn't even watch 20 seconds of it. that is not a band. those are 4 or 5 guys who gave countless blow jobs to a bunch of people at reprise records and in between the loads being shot, they convinced the record executives that they could dress up like green day and sell records.

there's no case of being a snob and shooting down somebody having a guilty pleasure or something . it's a case being sold on an image -- cause that shit aint even music.

like jet is music, but it's horrendous, awful, watered-down, makes you dumber the longer you listen music.

*buuuuuuuuuurp*

well, technically, playing a musical instrument in a band would make you a musician. if you're you're a chef but you suck at it, you're still a chef...right?

...and i do realize that not everyone that is in a band and has the 'talent' to play an instrument is good, nor does that make the band good. i tried to clarify what i meant in the post right above this one. hopefully it made sense.

i caught some of snl last night. the first song (which i like) was ok, nothing great, but then again next to no one on snl seems to be able to pull off one let alone two good live perfomances...the second song was downright horrible.

i find it funny though that you mention green day because in the middle 90s after dookie came out they (along with the offspring) were to be categorized as wanna-be punks and somewhat of a joke amongst people that liked "real" punk music.

at least i agree with you on jet, but if people like, hey, that's cool with them.

bharQ

JSBE wrote:

i'm 29, how old are you? does my age even matter in this thread? on this board? are you disappointed that i'm not 12 and shop at hot topic?

i reread what i said...what don't you seem to understand? or what do you think i don't understand about what i have already said?

yes, i can say that really bad music has existed for the last 50 years and it was in the mainstream. look at the late 70s with disco and most of the 80s with new wave and hair metal power ballads and richard marx - some pretty shit music to go around and i'm damn sure that a lot of it was popular. i mean, there was kasey kasem and the top 40 countdown. there were a lot of cassingles to be sold. there was vanilla ice and mc hammer and i could go on and on...i'm not really following your side of the arguement.

i don't recall saying that "mainstream = crap" because i know i didn't. if i did specifically state that, please, by all means, let me know.

lastly, who are YOU to say that my chemical romance or panic at the disco or fall-out boy or whatever 'whiney emo shit' isn't real music? you make it sound like if your 14 year old son/daughter had one of these albums you would kick them out of the house or burn it and force them to appreciate something you wanted them to listen to.

oh yeah, what the hell does *flicks sidepart* mean?

dude the original statement that you said that started this whole bs was that you think eddie should have respect for any mainstream music regardless of what they play.. and thats the whole point.. this music is crap plain and simple.. THEY are disrespecting the word musician by even picking up a damn instrument.. why the fuck would i want my kids listening to shitty music? if you have any kind of open mind and have dipped into the realm of underground music that is out there you will relize this. its all marketed crap.. just like new kids on the block were in the early 90s this is the same evil idea.

like honestly find me some of their lyrics that you at 29 connect to.. im just curious as to how this happened to you.

bharQ

hahaha looks like you couldn't find any

JSBE

bharQ wrote:

dude the original statement that you said that started this whole bs was that you think eddie should have respect for any mainstream music regardless of what they play.. and thats the whole point.. this music is crap plain and simple.. THEY are disrespecting the word musician by even picking up a damn instrument..

what i said was (and i copy and paste): "i think ed was just calling out a band similiar to good charlotte with that statement because i would hope he would have some respect for all musicians regardless of the music they play (i'm guessing or hoping he's not an elistist jackass)." maybe you misunderstood - i think you did - the only point i was trying to make (which might be too hard for your to understand) is that as an established, credible musician i would think that on the basic, simple level of being a fellow musician, artist, creator that he would respect another band/artist even if the "them" is my chemical romance. we can agree to disagree and when it all comes down to it, i don't give a fuck what you or eddie vedder thinks about any type of music i like.

also, i just don't get how my chemical romance is are "disrespecting the word musician by even picking up a damn instrument" but hey, let me know when you sell a couple million copies of YOUR band's album ok?

bharQ wrote:

why the fuck would i want my kids listening to shitty music?

wait, i forgot, you listened to the coolest music from the day you were born. you were down with the minutemen and sonic youth and the dead kennedys and r.e.m. in the early 80s and the smith and the pixies and you totally loved pearl jam before they were called pearl jam. dude, everyone goes through a shitty music phase when they're growing up.

and by the way, you're going to be an awesome parent with your small-minded mentality. i can't wait until your 6 year old daughter wants to listen to some jessica simpson or pussycat dolls or black eyed peas and you tell them they can't because it is shit. or how about when your 12 year old thinks 50 cent is the best rapper in the world? what are you going to do? throw away their cd? what are you going to do if they don't want to dress like you want them to? have the same moral values that you want them to?

bharQ wrote:

if you have any kind of open mind and have dipped into the realm of underground music that is out there you will relize this. its all marketed crap.. just like new kids on the block were in the early 90s this is the same evil idea.

you are way off base to suggest that my chemical romance or bands similiar to them are anywhere near my top 1,000 albums, bands, etc. why don't you do a little reseach at some of my posts to see what i call music i like.

bharQ wrote:

like honestly find me some of their lyrics that you at 29 connect to.. im just curious as to how this happened to you.

i don't know any of their lyrics. i don't own their albums. i don't have any mp3s of their songs. you know how it happened? radio is on, song comes on radio, hey, this is kind of catchy...repeat and...end of story.

any chance, cool guy, if you're going to tell me how old you are and how you became so sophisticated to the ways of not liking any sort of "shit" music?

JSBE

bharQ wrote:

hahaha looks like you couldn't find any

ha ha i definately couldn't. sorry i have a job and a long commute home and i'm trying to cook supper while filling you in on a few things...ha ha

Igottago

haha..i really feel for the thread starter getting ripped here..but man its kind of for your own good. these guys do suck so badly it isn't even funny. This band is just terrible shit that most 12 year olds are too mature to even listen to. We cannot be so accepting of such garbage, as Pearl Jam fans and fans of good music, its our duty to recommend good music worthy of sharing with eachother, and hopefully we can have an impact on the direction the music industry goes and we can return it to being somewhat close to what it was when Pearl Jam were popular. Its for the collective good that bands like this are ripped to shreds. Sorry man.

JSBE

Igottago wrote:

We cannot be so accepting of such garbage, as Pearl Jam fans and fans of good music, its our duty to recommend good music worthy of sharing with eachother, and hopefully we can have an impact on the direction the music industry goes and we can return it to being somewhat close to what it was when Pearl Jam were popular. Its for the collective good that bands like this are ripped to shreds.

wow. really, just wow. and this in a nutshell is the mentality of a large portion of posters on this board think too.

you guys do realize that there are thousands upon thousands of people out there that think pearl jam is absolute garbage, right? or can't you see it through the blinders...?

JSBE

why is it that all the canadians are the message board tough guys in this thread?

Igottago

JSBE wrote:

wow. really, just wow. and this in a nutshell is the mentality of a large portion of posters on this board think too.

you guys do realize that there are thousands upon thousands of people out there that think pearl jam is absolute garbage, right? or can't you see it through the blinders...?

Would those thousands and thousands of people be responsible for the chart success of Nsync, Britney, Hillary Duff, and My Chemical Romance?? Yes? Then I don't really care if they think Pearl Jam suck, because obviously they have no taste, and I hold them personally responsible for slowly killing quality in the music industry. I've got a new bumper sticker. "Stop buying Shitty Records".

BrainOfJD

Igottago wrote:

Would those thousands and thousands of people be responsible for the chart success of Nsync, Britney, Hillary Duff, and My Chemical Romance?? Yes? Then I don't really care if they think Pearl Jam suck, because obviously they have no taste, and I hold them personally responsible for slowly killing quality in the music industry. I've got a new bumper sticker. "Stop buying Shitty Records".

No, that's not the point at all. The point is that there are music snobs out there that lump MCR and PJ together in the same bag as sellout, derivative, mass appeal garbage. It's a slippery slope when you start calling a band corporate teenage crap music or whatever.

bharQ

JSBE wrote:

why is it that all the canadians are the message board tough guys in this thread?

yawn

JSBE

bharQ wrote:

yawn

hey, way to respond to my last post. or do you just only expect other people to respond to you?

and the canadian thing was just an observation.

JSBE

BrainOfJD wrote:

No, that's not the point at all. The point is that there are music snobs out there that lump MCR and PJ together in the same bag as sellout, derivative, mass appeal garbage. It's a slippery slope when you start calling a band corporate teenage crap music or whatever.

glad somene else understands the point i was trying to make.

JSBE

Igottago wrote:

Would those thousands and thousands of people be responsible for the chart success of Nsync, Britney, Hillary Duff, and My Chemical Romance?? Yes? Then I don't really care if they think Pearl Jam suck, because obviously they have no taste, and I hold them personally responsible for slowly killing quality in the music industry. I've got a new bumper sticker. "Stop buying Shitty Records".

as brainofjd already said, you missed the point.

the thousands and thousand (or even millions) might be fans of death metal or they might be hardcore punk fans or rap fans or they might even be u2 or red hot chili pepper fans. the people that like music you think sucks are not automatically the people that think pearl jam sucks.

you come off as a person that thinks what you like music or otherwise is the best and anything you don't like sucks and is crap and not good. do you act like this with everything in life?

if anything, the financial success that "Nsync, Britney, Hillary Duff, and My Chemical Romance" bring to labels is probably (or maybe) a good thing for borderline major label acts that are talented and make good music but only sell decently, not phenomenally. maybe the success of "Nsync, Britney, Hillary Duff, and My Chemical Romance" allows the major label to keep the artist on their roster rather than dropping them...ever think of that?

i'm sure you could make and market that bumper sticker, but it would probably end up being sold in a hot topic or something to the same people who listen to that 'so-called' shitty music.

Igottago

lol..and lol again... i don't care what you or anyone else listens to, go ahead. have fun listen to my chemical panic fallout disco boy or whatever you want. it's at your own peril.

and yes, what i don't like sucks.

JSBE

Igottago wrote:

i don't care what you or anyone else listens to, go ahead.

are you sure? because you got all worked up that i posted a link to a "shitty" album by a "shitty" band?

Igottago

JSBE wrote:

are you sure? because you got all worked up that i posted a link to a "shitty" album by a "shitty" band?

i didn't get worked up at all..i had quite a chuckle over it. i just stated my opinion. You don't have to listen to me.

yieldtome

Wow...can I just say holy son of a fuck? Why the hell are people bashing the shit out of JSBE? He posted a link so that if anyone was interested they could have a listen. Do I like My Chemical Romance (or as the cool kids call them MCR)? Fuck no, I think they are talentless clowns. But do I appreciate the gesture of JSBE? I sure do. It is b/c people post these links that I have found many bands I love today. Without choices, AND ACCESS TO CHOICES, we cannot possibly know what we like and don't like. And be honest...everyone on this board has found him or herself inexplicable blasting the hell out of some band who has been deemed "Monkey cunt horse shit" before.

Rock on JSBE, and suck on MCR!!! ROFLcopter