bob dylan

Boss302

Just watched the "No Direction Home" DVD by Scorsese. Wow, a must for Dylan fans.

MattCameronKicksButt

glasshouse wrote:

i don't want to say this out loud, but i've obly recently started listening to bob dylan. i only have desire. i've been given this album alot of attention these last couple of days, and i'm totally in love with it. amazing story telling

which album(s) should i investigate next?

choices so far (i thought) would be:
highway 61 revisited
love and theft
modern times

any thought?

rock on

Obviously Blonde On Blonde and Highway 61 Revisited. I don't know why you would be ashamed?

HollisBrown

Start here;

http://www.bobdylan.com/moderntimes/music/albumsMain.html

and work your way from the bottom up, right to left. Chronologically is the best way. It's the way I started, though I started in 1963. His music evolved over a period and is hard to fully comprehend when you just jump in. It's a lot of work. But hey, so is studying philosophy, history, math, science...well you get what I mean.

Or you can just play Like a Rolling Stone over and over and over and over...................................................

Also check this out.....................................October 2007 release
http://www.dylan07.com/trailer.html

Jeremy1012

Pearl Jam and toast wrote:

I HATE Bob Dylan greatest hits. They cut off songs that are too long and forget some of his very best work - often subbing it for mediocre half hits from the 80s like "Silvio". My first Dylan album was the Essential Bob Dylan and it certainly didn't keep me from loving him, but seriously, get the actual albums.

Visions of Johanna - 9 minutes long
It's Alright Ma (I'm only Bleeding) - About 10 minutes long
Desolation Row - really long.. at least 8 minutes
Sad Eyed Lady of the Lowlands - 13?

etc. All left off his greatest hits compilations.

you got those all wrong

visions of johanna is about 7, as is its alright ma
desolation row is about 11
sad eyed lady of the lowlands is 12-ish

The Rock

Bob fuckin' Dylan. I'm bumping this just because Dylan's music has totally hit me this year and taken over my life.

I loved Eddie's Masters Of War from the Dylan show in '92. Then I heard the original song a few years back and didn't think much of it. Heard a few other Bob songs and never really liked them. For years I'd been reading reviews and stories of what a legend he is and didn't understand. I thought I was missing something.

Anyway, back in January I heard Visions of Johanna for the first time. I don't know if it was because I was feeling a certain way, but the song jumped out at me and hit me like a ton of bricks. I had an immediate visceral response to it, as I now do to most Dylan material. I feel them first, and then I think about the potential meanings/purpose of them later on. Its a strange response sometimes, because I'll hear a song that I have zero idea what its about but makes me feel very strongly in different ways.

I'm rambling, so back on topic. I think its good to listen chronologically because it helps understand where he started and where he went and where he is now. In some ways, the preceding album informs the next one, not necessarily in its sound but in terms of his journey. With some records, there were hints at where he was perhaps heading artistically. Not always the case though, but for example I feel like most of Street Legal (1978) shows subtle hints that the next record would be more religious overall. Bob has conjured up religious imagery many times in the past, but for me there was something about the way he was singing and what he was actually saying that was laying groundwork for Slow Train Coming (1979).

His journey is fascinating. Its strange because even the weird, weak shitty records are essential if one wants to get a full understanding of Dylan's artistic arc. The 'Christian' trilogy of albums are easily the weakest imo but there's still one or two gems in there if you look hard enough. But I also ADORE some of the 80s stuff which most people tend to despise or speak poorly of. Here's my favourite albums/tracks which I recommend. The standard essential stuff has been suggested, so I'll recommend some of the less acclaimed stuff Make sure you still listen to the albums in full, because its important to fully appreciate the songs. The songs listed are just my favourites

Nashville Skyline (1969).
Essential songs: Girl From The North Country (duet with Johnny Cash), I Threw It All Away, Lay Lady Lay.

New Morning (1970).
Essential songs: If Not For You, Winterlude, New Morning, Father Of Night.

Planet Waves (1974).
On A Night Like This, Going Going Gone, Tough Mama, Forever Young, Dirge.

Desire (1976). This was mentioned above, but I can't recommend it enough. Amazing sound on this one, the violin really adds a lot.
Hurricane, Isis (!!), Mozambique, Oh Sister, Romance In Durango.

Hard Rain (live album - 1976).
Stellar versions of Oh Sister, Shelter From The Storm, I Threw It All Away, Idiot Wind.

Street Legal (1978).
Changing Of The Guards, No Time To Think, Baby Stop Crying, Senor (Tales of Yankee Power), Where Are You Tonight?

Slow Train Coming (1979).
Precious Angel, I Believe In You.

Shot Of Love (1981).
Heart Of Mine, Every Grain Of Sand.

Infidels (1983).
Jokerman, Neighbourhood Bully, Licence To Kill, I And I.

Empire Burlesque (1985).
Tight Connection To My Heart, Clean Cut Kid, Dark Eyes.

Knocked Out Loaded (1986).
Brownsville Girl, Got My Mind Made Up.

Oh Mercy (1989).
Where Teardrops Fall, Ring Them Bells, Man in the Long Black Coat, Most Of The Time, What Good Am I? Shooting Star.

Most people regard this one as his strongest album from the 80s. Daniel Lanois seemed to push him and with his producing skill they created a sound that Dylan would return to somewhat for 1997's Time Out Of Mind. Dylan and Lanois apparently clashed a lot during the making of this one, but the results are very rewarding. It's strange, because this was critically a big success but then for the next record he went somewhere totally different and was once again met with terrible reviews. He'd stumbled onto something great with Oh Mercy, but perhaps he wasn't ready to see it through and continue down this particular path. Then, in 1992 he released two albums which were pretty much just Dylan and acoustic guitar singing folk songs much like his first albums. I see these as a cleansing of the palette in a way, Dylan clearing his throat and closing the door on his career up to this point, shaking off any last folksie sentiments before venturing down a new path with a new voice and new ways of saying things. From here, Dylan becomes the true singer of the American Songbook that we see today in my opinion. From here, we'd get a true resurgence and some bona fide classic records.

Time Out Of Mind (1997).
Love Sick, Million Miles, Not Dark Yet (MASTERPIECE of a song), Cold Irons Bound, Highlands.

"Love & Theft". (2001).
Mississippi, Summer Days, Lonesome Day Blues, High Water, Honest With Me, Cry A While.

Modern Times (2006).
Thunder On The Mountain, Spirit In The Water, Workingman Blues #2, Nettie Moore.

Together Through Life (2009).
Beyond Here Lies Nothing, Life Is Hard, Forgetful Heart, Shake Shake Mama.

Tempest (2012).
Duquesne Whistle, Narrow Way, Pay In Blood, Early Roman Kings, Tempest.

brianlux

Bob




Dylan






Wrote propaganda songgggggs!

The Rock

brianlux said:

Bob




Dylan






Wrote propaganda songgggggs!

Ha, what??

brianlux

The Rock said:

brianlux said:

Bob




Dylan






Wrote propaganda songgggggs!

Ha, what??

Oh sorry! I had just flashed on how many years ago I had picked up this new album by the Minutemen and was telling a co-worker about this puck band and their song "Bob Dylan Wrote Propaganda Songs". The guy got really angry and clenched his fists and told me I had better not say anything bad about Bob Dylan! Au contraire! Those guys were Bob FANATICS!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9EFGb5sgGo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YXvuP1kLvw

Spiritual_Chaos

Bob is returning to Europe next summer!

Spiritual_Chaos

Fuck. Put the alarm on 8:10 for the sale for tickets starting at 09.

I woke up 09:50. Don't know how that happend. 

So didn't get the hottest tickets, but bought tickets to his Gothenburg show. Guessing it's the last time he'll visit Europe.

brianlux

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Fuck. Put the alarm on 8:10 for the sale for tickets starting at 09.

I woke up 09:50. Don't know how that happend. 

So didn't get the hottest tickets, but bought tickets to his Gothenburg show. Guessing it's the last time he'll visit Europe.

Cool that you got tickets in any case.  Give us a little review after the show if you get a chance! 

Spiritual_Chaos

brianlux said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Fuck. Put the alarm on 8:10 for the sale for tickets starting at 09.

I woke up 09:50. Don't know how that happend. 

So didn't get the hottest tickets, but bought tickets to his Gothenburg show. Guessing it's the last time he'll visit Europe.

Cool that you got tickets in any case.  Give us a little review after the show if you get a chance! 

I found the concert to be very good actually (in relation to the inherit problems with a Bob Dylan show). I dug seeing him having somewhat fun on the stage. I think I went the next day to see Eddie Vedder in Belgium, and that was good too.

https://youtu.be/QW34Ux8GLeg


By the way, saw yester just before sleep that - Bob has been accused of sexual abuse. Something that had occurred in the mid 60s.

Meltdown99

Bob Dylan sued for alleged sexual abuse of 12-year-old in 1960s | Reuters

HughFreakingDillon

Meltdown99 said:

Bob Dylan sued for alleged sexual abuse of 12-year-old in 1960s | Reuters

apparently he has proof (a documentary being filmed) that he wasn't even in the country that entire time. 

Spiritual_Chaos

Man, he is sounding so good this tour :O 

https://youtu.be/p6p6AtbPk_o

dudeman

Saw him in Cleveland a couple weeks ago. His voice is better than I have heard it sound than any time in the last 20 years. 

Always great to see a Dylan show!