Vote for Sanjya

somebodyelsessky2020

rrivers wrote:

If someone has real talent and has gotten this far they have already been discovered.

It would have been a real shame if Taylor Hicks wouldn't have won so he could do car commercials. Give me a break.

well taylor hicks was last years joke see.

Barely Alive

I think it's great that he's still on there, and I find the whole thing amusing. I never watched Idol, ever, until the Sanjaya thing started (and I saw his sister bouncing around). While I find it amazing that Stern and vote-for-the- worst.com, to a lesser degree have influenced the joke, what people haven't realized, and surprisingly enough Stern hasn't mentioned, is that as the competititon goes along and other contestants are voted out, the people that were voting for them will likely pick someone else, thereby redistributing the votes and diluting the Sanjaya movement. That'd be no big deal except many think he actually has a shot at taking it.

In other words, the concentration of votes will statistically redistribute itself. All the actual fans of the show will most likely keep watching and voting, long after their initial pick has left the show. Sanjaya will therefore need an ever increasing number of votes week to week to then stay afloat, as the number of contestants gets distilled down. For example, the girl that got elimintaed last week...say she was getting 4 million votes just by herself- I'd say about 75% or more of those votes will be retained and redirected, and not to Sanjaya. This happens each week as you go along now of course, especially since the Idol freaks are hell bent on Sanjaya not ruining the show.

markymark550

NickyNooch wrote:

Because it's funny. You either are in on the joke or aren't. Millions of Stern listeners find it funny and I am one of them. To sabatoge the #1 show in America, making them give a horrible singer a musical contract, priceless.

If Sanjaya winning American Idol would make Simon, Paula, and Randy leave the show and make Fox cancel the show I'm all for him winning.

However, the millions of Stern listeners who wouldn't watch the show otherwise are increasing the ratings, thereby ensuring that American Idol will continue on even if Sanjaya wins. If Fox has the show at the peak of its ratings, there is no way they would cancel it even if the judges left. They would just find new judges to bring in and resume the show.

PissBottleMan

markymark550 wrote:

If Sanjaya winning American Idol would make Simon, Paula, and Randy leave the show and make Fox cancel the show I'm all for him winning.

As the producer said in the interview I read, judges are under contract...they, nor the show are going anywhere for a while.

PBM

Joanne

http://www.votefortheworst.com

pearljamharmony

the concept of voting for the worst contestants is a good idea. People should know that the top 8-10 of american are signed to iron clad contracts that give the producers of American Idol a huge percentage of the profits from albums and tours. In theory, if the best are voted off they will find their own means of reaching success garnering a greater profit and those with less talent will be tied down with iron clad american idol contracts earning a profit from lackluster albums and tours which they wouldn't be able if they were voted off in order of talent.

More money to talent + money for the less talented + and it ruins the credibility of this awful show = everyone wins

NickyNooch wrote:

STERN RULES.

ps its not 1993 anymore

rrivers

pearljamharmony wrote:

ps its not 1993 anymore

So, by that logic, we shouldn't listen to Pearl Jam anymore either, right? Stern is just as relevant and entertaining as he ever was. Sound familiar?

somebodyelsessky2020

karma is a bitch. i hope all the people voting for sanjya on purpose are this understanding when they apply for a job and it's given to someone way less qualified.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAT27LhkQ-4

rrivers

somebodyelse'ssky wrote:

karma is a bitch. i hope all the people voting for sanjya on purpose are this understanding when they apply for a job and it's given to someone way less qualified.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAT27LhkQ-4

You aren't serious. You can't be.

DaveyBlue

I hate American Idol.

pearljamharmony

rrivers wrote:

So, by that logic, we shouldn't listen to Pearl Jam anymore either, right? Stern is just as relevant and entertaining as he ever was. Sound familiar?

no my logic is that unlike Pearl Jam, Howard Stern is irrelevant. For example, when he went to Sirius satellite radio he lost 95% of his audience, this only validates my point. Over the years Son of the Beach was canceled because its humor was low brow and repetitive, his bio pic tanked, fartman never got off the ground, his E show was canceled, and so was his CBS show. On the other hand Pearl Jam is making groundbreaking music on every album and they have one of the most diverse and important catalogues in rawk history. In his defense Howard stern has to produce 4-5 hours of new material everyday, but how many times can you go to the fart joke and stripper well?

I would also like to copy and paste my friend’s sentiments

my rican friend wrote:

On April 18th a tragedy took place. Yes, the end of the majestic Sanjaya Malakar. I don't know how I'm going to feel tomorrow when I wake up and realize that my Sanjaya is gone. I won't forget his beautiful hair and his amazing smile. How can America not see that the voice of Sanjaya was like God sending one of his angels to sing for us. He will be dearly missed.

off_the_record

pearljamharmony wrote:

no my logic is that unlike Pearl Jam, Howard Stern is irrelevant. For example, when he went to Sirius satellite radio he lost 95% of his audience

you're insane if you think thats true

pearljamharmony wrote:

On the other hand Pearl Jam is making groundbreaking music on every album and they have one of the most diverse and important catalogues in rawk history

you're insane if you think thats true

Manstis1604

somebodyelse'ssky wrote:

the show is an outlet for people with talent that may not have other options than this to have had the chance to have been discovered. granted everyone is not going to like every winner or the style of music they perform but you can't deny the show has had some real talented people on. the next eddie vedder could be found for all you know. and to vote for some kid that sucks and try and kill a show like this is stupid. if you don't like it don't watch it or listen to people's comments about it. this won't end the show anyway it's the number one show in america for christ sakes!! what it will do is deny someone with real talent the opportunity to win.

Dude its American Idol, we have enough pop music around. Having Sanjaya win will destroy the show's credibility. They might have to stop letting America vote to prevent this kind of thing from happening, which would make the ratings tank and the show goes off the air. Don't worry we're not gonna find the next Eddie Vedder on there, if they're going to then they already have in that Daughtry loser. Do we really need more fake rocker guys?

rrivers

off_the_record wrote:

you're insane if you think thats true



you're insane if you think thats true

You are so right off_the_record.

pearljamharmony, Stern did not lose 95% of his audience. Pearl Jam did lose a huge amount of audience from 1993. By his bio pic, do you mean "Private Parts". Sorry, pal, that did not tank.

pearljamharmony

you're insane if you think thats true[/quote]


Okay well if you don't think that Pearl Jam is groundbreaking and exciting on every album, then why are you here? True Pearl Jam lost alot of casual fans after Vitalogy because the masses for the most part have a short attention span and a limited intellect. Private Parts grossed slightly more than $41 million in total, but if you think that 41 million dollars is this great figure for such a "profound" movie there are alot of "profound" Jenifer Lopez movies that have grosses anywhere between 60-90 million such as the "timeless-classic" Maid in Manhattan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maid_in_Manhattan#Box_office ) and the Oscar nominated Wedding Planner ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wedding_Planner#Box_Office ). Remember my figure of 95%, okay maybe I exaggerated a little. When Howard Stern left satellite radio ONLY 8% (1.1 million) of his terrestrial audience went with him to Sirius, so he only lost 92% of his audience (http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20060511/0944239.shtml) Stern is an irrelevant piece of garbage who is trying his best to grab on to any piece of popular culture to keep his name in the media. Do you know how many people watch American idol? Anywhere between 20-30 million people a show ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Idol#Television_ratings ). To think that a percentage of 1.1 million people had anything to do with Sanjaya's success is insane. Is it American Idol popular? That goes without saying, but Is American idol bad for popular music? Indeed it is, Fox or Rupert Murdorch trying to changing the way music is presented to us is a scary thing. Think about how this right wing media giant has brainwashed the heart of this country. Where did Sanjaya's success until last night come from? Maybe a little Michael Jackson nostalgia, maybe it was his effeminate presentation or maybe it was millions of sheltered little girls?

PS thanks for the debate

rrivers

You have to pick a side. Either the masses have limited intellect and a short attention span (your argument when talking about PJ losing listeners) or the majority of people who stayed away from "Private Parts" are smart. $41 million is not earthshattering but I think most people would consider it a hit, especially since it was released 11 years ago. No one said "Private Parts" was a profound movie or a timeless classic. All I said was that it did not tank. 8% followed him initially to satelitte but those numbers have grown substantially. Do you really think there would be a talk of a merger before Stern went to Sirius? XM was by far the leader before Sirius got Stern.

Just because 20-30 million people watch American Idol does not mean they all vote. I know quite a few people who watch it who don't vote. Stern and votefortheworst.com had a ton of people voting a lot. I'm sure there are a lot of people who think American Idol is stupid (one thing you and I can agree on) and maybe heard about the Sanjaya movement who are not Stern fans but thought, I'd like to mess with this stupid show so they voted too.

I love Pearl Jam not because they are particularly groundbreaking but because they have powerful, rocking music that comes from a real place. I admire them for not being complacent but they didn't really invent anything new.

libragirl

thank god he finally got the boot. It's weird though...I kind of felt sorry for him.

off_the_record

pearljamharmony wrote:

Okay well if you don't think that Pearl Jam is groundbreaking and exciting on every album, then why are you here?

i have to consider them "groundbreaking" to post on a message board?

oh oh, nevermind, you'll probably post more irrelevant stats that i could give two shits about.

rrivers

off_the_record wrote:

i have to consider them "groundbreaking" to post on a message board?

oh oh, nevermind, you'll probably post more irrelevant stats that i could give two shits about.

Well said!