I really hate MTV

Echoes

name one song that you recorded

Like it or not, those bands you claim to have more musical impact whatever than you do (unless of course, you have a pen name and have been releasing records I haven't heard of). Musical impact is how much influence they exert, how popular they are in their day and age's popular culture (evidently quite a bit, since they got you posting about them, and you aren't even one of their fans!).

I mean you might not enjoy their music (and nor do I), but these guys are more significantly musically than you are, so far (gotta leave the future open).

Echoes

Toolgarden wrote:

Oh. Well....

no accounting for taste, eh?

brhf9

Zzzzzzzzz...

brhf9

by the way, isn't the guy from Disturbed, on the last photo of the article, looking just like a chubby version from the "Deal or no Deal' guy?

Toolgarden

Echoes wrote:

no accounting for taste, eh?

Very true. Very true.

However, you of all people should realize that just because an artist isn't recognized by the media or public at large, doesn't mean they don't have a valid claim to an educated opinion or talent beyond the scope of the "average" listener. By stating that you have never heard of a person or their accomplishments, and because you have never heard of them they are somehow less competent than say, FallOut Boy, you are betraying a certain amount of hypocrisy that I don't think you realize or intend.

chrisopalooza

Echoes wrote:

name one song that you recorded

Like it or not, those bands you claim to have more musical impact whatever than you do (unless of course, you have a pen name and have been releasing records I haven't heard of). Musical impact is how much influence they exert, how popular they are in their day and age's popular culture (evidently quite a bit, since they got you posting about them, and you aren't even one of their fans!).

I mean you might not enjoy their music (and nor do I), but these guys are more significantly musically than you are, so far (gotta leave the future open).

so it's based off whether you've heard of a band or not that makes them produce "musical impact"???

hmm.

i don't think i need to link you to my band's page, my music collumns for the newspaper i work for, or offer snippets from my old indie music radio show -- i can see what type of "music" follower you are.

cheers

kenny olav

i don't think the killers should be lumped in with all those other bands. they're not the greatest, but they're not bogus.

angryyoungman

can we get that stingray to stng all these people on these reality shows that are the real thng that destroyed mtv

angryyoungman

shiraz wrote:

You guys are still watching MTV? Why? Most of it = reality shows or maybe mainstream-artists promotion, there is almost no music nor music promotion around that network anymore.

I think its days are numbered, mainly because nowdays we have 'my space' & 'you-tube' - Everyone can make a video and upload it to the net, everyone can make a song/record and do the same. MTV in its current state is becoming more useless eveyday.

i agree with you, its just that some of us remember when mtv was actually kinda cutting edge and get this, PLAYED MUSIC (gasp) and it kinda bums us out.

brhf9

mtv makes me wanna smoke crack.

mookeywrench

chrisopalooza wrote:

so it's based off whether you've heard of a band or not that makes them produce "musical impact"???

cheers

a significant or major effect on popular music, would be to be the band that every 14 year old girl loves and that every 19 year old male hates. (thats where the whether or not you've heard of them part comes in)

it would to be able to wipe out the current popular genre of music and replace it with your own (nu-metal replaced with pop punk/emo bands)

it would be to bring about a bunch of copy cat bands that music execs sign onto their label because their A&R reps didn't find the "it" band first (thats where Panic! at the disco and every other band of the like comes in)

it would be to bring about a change in the style of fashion that the teenagers choose in order to fit in (hence the black rimmed glasses, dyed black hair and eyeliner).

with all that being said i'd say, like it or not and whether its deserving or not, Fallout Boy has had a pretty big impact in popular music.

mookeywrench

angryyoungman wrote:

i agree with you, its just that some of us remember when mtv was actually kinda cutting edge and get this, PLAYED MUSIC (gasp) and it kinda bums us out.

when was MTV ever cutting edge?

Echoes

chrisopalooza wrote:

so it's based off whether you've heard of a band or not that makes them produce "musical impact"???

hmm.

i don't think i need to link you to my band's page, my music collumns for the newspaper i work for, or offer snippets from my old indie music radio show -- i can see what type of "music" follower you are.

cheers

I wouldn't mind if you did to be honest. Also, what type of "music" follower am I. I genuinely want to know!

chrisopalooza

Echoes wrote:

I wouldn't mind if you did to be honest. Also, what type of "music" follower am I. I genuinely want to know!

so that when i do, the argument either ends with:

"well, everybody has the right to their own opinion, man"

or

"your band sucks"

or

"your articles suck"

or

"ok, you have credibility, now i accept your response"

...i could care less. i don't need to PROVE to some dude that i've never met that i know what i am talking about and i have credentials. if somebody like thurston moore, wayne kramer, or steve turner was giving me shit like you are, then i would take the time to show them i got a backbone of music. so anyway, it's been a whole lotta fun. i'll letcha get back to being the wonderful emo police officer that you are.

chrisopalooza

Echoes wrote:

Also, what type of "music" follower am I. I genuinely want to know!

anybody that takes ANY of those bands in the article (excluding Nirvana) seriously, like as a real band, really doesn't know what's goin on in the world.

Echoes

chrisopalooza wrote:

...i could care less. i don't need to PROVE to some dude that i've never met that i know what i am talking about and i have credentials. if somebody like thurston moore, wayne kramer, or steve turner was giving me shit like you are, then i would take the time to show them i got a backbone of music. so anyway, it's been a whole lotta fun. i'll letcha get back to being the wonderful emo police officer that you are.

man dogg I'm not looking for your credentials, I'm genuinely curious here. In any case, what do you consider a real band? If people playing musica nd recording CDs in a preset group of people aren't real band, then I am not sure what is!

reeferchief

This thread continues to amuse me.:)

To the person who said none of these artists have any musical credability, Chino Moreno has made some awesome music with The Deftones and Team Sleep, as have the guys from Mastodon, Fall Out Boy although an impact you may not like have had a large impact on the current music scene, sure you might not like it but it HAS happened, just the same as Panic at the Disco and most of the other artists in the write up.
Just because you dont like a type of music or artist does not mean you can say they have had no impact on music and culture in general, I dont like Michael Jackson or Madonna it does'nt change the fact that they are two of the biggest selling and most influential music artists of all time.

karma defect

MTV is a great big bore. Beavis and Butthead should watch that channel I think they would really like it.

brain_of_jas

Pearl Jam and toast wrote:

You apparently haven't listened to In Utero or Nevermind if you think that.

Why?

I own both. Neither have been listened to in years. I prefer something a little challenging for my ears. Something with depth and texture that i can really sink my teeth into. These albums wash over me without envoking much feeling at all. Its just simple boring songs that do nothing for me

lalalalaaaaaaaa

chrisopalooza wrote:

i guess i don't really have a clear, focused thesis on why this particular article got me all rattled up, i think i am just upset when good bands and pretend bands cross paths and the pretend bands are supposed to offer insight.

If you don't like MTV, but you're mad about them running that article, I'd say you're just upset because the music you like isn't popular. That's not MTV's fault. They market to the majority of kids, and the majority of kids don't like grunge-type music.

If you hate MTV so much, then don't pay so much attention to it. There's no need for MTV anymore. The internet can provide everything you need to find music you like.

Also, you should remember that the whole reason grunge became mainstream is because there was a period right before it that was filled with bands like you're describing now. If I were you, and wanted my music to be popular again, I'd be excited right now, because it's highly likely that it will happen again.