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Getting lost in CAMDEN again

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    MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,612
    I work down here, somewhat near Camden and live in Buffalo...

    I cant believe how nice the Susquehanna/Tweeter Center is. The fact that it is in Camden puzzles me.

    New Jersey does have a bad rap. Many parts of it are very nice, and I like where my company has me stay (Deptford) a lot.

    Yes, Wawa is great too. The supermarkets suck, but its nice to see Wegman's moving in.


    And luckily, I did not get lost leaving either show. Thank god.
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    Oh, my heart aches at the crap Jersey Girls get - we're all not like that :)

    This Jersey Girl moved to New England & I'll never go back, but my heart is always there - ultra suburbia upbringing, cutting school to go to down the shore, heading up to the Delaware River, beer runs to Staten Island.

    Can't wait for Conn Friday & Mansfield Sat & Mon!!

    Super psyched!!
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    DeLukinDeLukin Posts: 2,740
    JWBusher wrote:
    I'm going to Camden for the Radiohead show. If anyone can post directions in or out that make sense, I would appreciate it. What a shitty place to have vague, confusing directions!

    Just take the GW bridge (if you're coming from Philly) and follow the signs to the water front. It'll be pretty obvious from the miles of unmoving traffic which way the venue is...
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    nfanelnfanel Posts: 2,558
    DeLukin wrote:
    Just take the GW bridge (if you're coming from Philly)
    ben franklin...
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    DeLukin wrote:
    Just take the GW bridge (if you're coming from Philly) and follow the signs to the water front. It'll be pretty obvious from the miles of unmoving traffic which way the venue is...

    I will probably be arriving early and leaving during the 2nd encore, just like the last time I was there, so there won't be any traffic to follow. And I know the directions say "follow the signs to the waterfront" but last time I was there they had these little tiny pissant signs that were hard to read and I couldn't find shit. I ended up driving a little bit until I saw a line of cars entering a parking lot.

    It also doesn't tell you how to get the fuck out of there. The last time I was there I couldn't find 676W so I ended up going East and doing a u-turn at some point, back to the bridge.

    I looked up directions in a few places, and every one is different, of course, but I hopefully I won't have any problems. *sigh*

    Which way do the cops send traffic on the way out? Should I stick with MLK or drive north to Cooper st.?
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    mookie9999mookie9999 Posts: 4,677
    Fucking nightmare getting out of there! Roads closed off for no apparent reason, roadblocks, trash, bad scene. Took 40 minutes to get back to the turnpike. With that being said I'd do it again in a heartbeat!
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    xavier mcdanielxavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,081
    mookie9999 wrote:
    Fucking nightmare getting out of there! Roads closed off for no apparent reason, roadblocks, trash, bad scene. Took 40 minutes to get back to the turnpike. With that being said I'd do it again in a heartbeat!

    me too. at least we got to see part of philadelphia on the way over though..
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    quarterpastquarterpast Posts: 185
    JWBusher wrote:
    I will probably be arriving early and leaving during the 2nd encore, just like the last time I was there, so there won't be any traffic to follow. And I know the directions say "follow the signs to the waterfront" but last time I was there they had these little tiny pissant signs that were hard to read and I couldn't find shit. I ended up driving a little bit until I saw a line of cars entering a parking lot.

    It also doesn't tell you how to get the fuck out of there. The last time I was there I couldn't find 676W so I ended up going East and doing a u-turn at some point, back to the bridge.

    I looked up directions in a few places, and every one is different, of course, but I hopefully I won't have any problems. *sigh*

    Which way do the cops send traffic on the way out? Should I stick with MLK or drive north to Cooper st.?


    The best way to go is (if cops don't send you out the back) take MLK away from the venue. Pass through a couple lights until you have Cooper Hospital on your right. You will take a left at that light. The lanes on this street shift from light to light (just to warn you). Just follow it until you see a sign for 676 and the Ben Franklin Bridge. Turn left and it dumps you on the toll booth for the bridge (the turn is just after an overpass where you can see the bridge).

    When coming from Philly, if there is traffic to follow, you can take the very first exit from the bridge. If no traffic, I'd say take exit 5a. This will spin you around onto MLK blvd.
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    The best way to go is (if cops don't send you out the back) take MLK away from the venue. Pass through a couple lights until you have Cooper Hospital on your right. You will take a left at that light. The lanes on this street shift from light to light (just to warn you). Just follow it until you see a sign for 676 and the Ben Franklin Bridge. Turn left and it dumps you on the toll booth for the bridge (the turn is just after an overpass where you can see the bridge).

    When coming from Philly, if there is traffic to follow, you can take the very first exit from the bridge. If no traffic, I'd say take exit 5a. This will spin you around onto MLK blvd.

    MLK, left on Haddon to bridge exit. Cool. Thanks.
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    From Central Jersey.

    I have attended about 20-25 shows there and I don't think I have ever got home the same way more then once. It is pretty freaking fugly when the shows end.
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    The best way to go after learning the hard way is.
    On the way out that main block you come down on....just make the first possible left. That block will let you make a left towards philly or take it straight up to 70east cherry hill NJ, what I did.

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    JDfromDEJDfromDE Posts: 60
    How do you get lost in camden? There's a huge line with hundreds of cars all going in the same direction, escorted by police that have one hand on a flashlight and another on the gun so that you can safely get out of town.

    PS. for all the people complaining about the trash in the parking lots, look at it this way. When you throw a can on the ground, you're donating 5 cents to the Camden residents who come in afterwards with big black trash bags in order to collect on the deposit. Help the poor: Drink beer from cans.
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    fanch75fanch75 Posts: 3,736
    JDfromDE wrote:
    When you throw a can on the ground, you're donating 5 cents to the Camden residents who come in afterwards with big black trash bags in order to collect on the deposit. Help the poor: Drink beer from cans.

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    White people spend a lot of time of worrying about poor people. It takes up a pretty significant portion of their day.

    They feel guilty and sad that poor people shop at Wal*Mart instead of Whole Foods, that they vote Republican instead of Democratic, that they go to Community College/get a job instead of studying art at a University.

    It is a poorly guarded secret that, deep down, white people believe if given money and education that all poor people would be EXACTLY like them. In fact, the only reason that poor people make the choices they do is because they have not been given the means to make the right choices and care about the right things.

    A great way to make white people feel good is to tell them about situations where poor people changed how they were doing things because they were given the ‘whiter’ option. “Back in my old town, people used to shop at Wal*Mart and then this non-profit organization came in and set up a special farmers co-op so that we could buy more local produce, and within two weeks the Wal*Mart shut down and we elected our first Democratic representative in 40 years.” White people will first ask which non-profit and are they hiring? After that, they will be filled with euphoria and will invite you to more parties to tell this story to their friends, so that they can feel great.

    But it is ESSENTIAL that you reassert that poor people do not make decisions based on free will. That news could crush white people and their hope for the future.
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    got pulled over in camden after the 2nd night in 03, for stopping at a red light

    cop saw and knew we didnt belong, told us to slow down at red lights and just keep on going
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    pjroo3pjroo3 Posts: 61
    Get a Tom Tom. It got me out in no time flat. Well... that is once I was able to get out of the Parking Lot.

    PLEASE PLAY THE SPECTRUM
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    Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 12,479
    JWBusher wrote:
    I'm going to Camden for the Radiohead show. If anyone can post directions in or out that make sense, I would appreciate it. What a shitty place to have vague, confusing directions!

    once you are over the bridge the police basically direct you

    heres a tip
    if you get directed to the multi level parking garage, go up two levels and then head for the exit instead of continuing up. We parked one turn away from the exit and were out in no time. Also, we bolted as soon as yellow ledbetter started up on Thurs and were well clear of the traffic. No problems other than the lack of direction arriving at the venue.
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    walking back to the tram on thursday there were too crackheads asking for money. after being ignored the followed us and screamed "fuck you" for a while. who knows what someone will do when the have nothing to lose. i dont know if they had a knife or worse. friday was my 5th and final PJ show in that hole.
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    marshmelimarshmeli Posts: 31
    JDfromDE wrote:
    How do you get lost in camden? There's a huge line with hundreds of cars all going in the same direction, escorted by police that have one hand on a flashlight and another on the gun so that you can safely get out of town.

    PS. for all the people complaining about the trash in the parking lots, look at it this way. When you throw a can on the ground, you're donating 5 cents to the Camden residents who come in afterwards with big black trash bags in order to collect on the deposit. Help the poor: Drink beer from cans.

    NJ does not do deposits on cans, and Penn doesn't either, so they have to somehow get to a state that will give them money back...
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    redvedderredvedder Posts: 56
    comasutra wrote:
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    Yeah, I was at the Camden I show. We got lucky. We had GPS... we were in Camden maybe just a strip of the way. There was some dude running up and down the street trying to sell t-shirts and a couple hot dog vendors.... dirty houses to say the least. Its amazing though that not that far away from Camden are very nice towns of Jersey. Im from Upsstate NY and when we found that gas was cheaper (and they were full serve) and we discovered Wawah we were in heaven! I recommend a Wawah stop for everyone, killer subs!


    Hehe, it's Wawa. No "H" but the "H" sure gave me a giggle!! Thanks!
    Glad you enjoyed our Wawa stores and hoagies (we don't call em subs in these parts). I have friends that moved out of the area and always talk about how they miss Wawa.
    And...as far as all of you Jersey bashers go...yes, we know Camden is horrible. But, weren't you ever taught - if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all.
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    AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    wanna not get lost in Camden? don't go there. shittiest city ever. i got lost for 2 hours after a Who show back in 99. PJ can play there all they want but i'll never go see 'em there.
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    quarterpastquarterpast Posts: 185
    marshmeli wrote:
    NJ does not do deposits on cans, and Penn doesn't either, so they have to somehow get to a state that will give them money back...
    But they can easily cash in aluminum. Premium prices that stuff these days.
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    pouch15pouch15 Posts: 436
    So why soes everyone get lost only on the way out? do you have the same problems getting there? or is it because they close roads?
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    quarterpastquarterpast Posts: 185
    pouch15 wrote:
    So why soes everyone get lost only on the way out? do you have the same problems getting there? or is it because they close roads?
    Police close roads and reroute people. They attempt to keep the main road from getting clogged for hours while everyone gets out, but it kinda backfires due to the surrounding area.
    rock bands may come and rock bands may go...
    but rock n roll will live forever! - ray davies
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    i got a flat tire there a couple weeks ago and a policeman was driving by and i told him that i had a flat and i was wondering if he could kinda pull over and hang out like 5 minutes while i change it because it was like 2 am

    he just said no and drove away

    with that said...i still love jersey
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    JDfromDEJDfromDE Posts: 60
    But they can easily cash in aluminum. Premium prices that stuff these days.
    That's what I meant when I was talking about the deposit.
    pouch15 wrote:
    So why soes everyone get lost only on the way out? do you have the same problems getting there? or is it because they close roads?

    I would venture to say that most of the people who get lost are coming from the south and getting off at Exit 4 from 676, then parking in the lots in the city of Camden. Those lots are scattered around different buildings, and have multiple roads around them, but only one road leads back to Exit 4 to get back onto 676. It's hard to figure out which road that is at night, AND in order to get there you've gotta go through a rough part of town.

    I've been going to shows in Camden for 8 years, and there's one simple solution to not getting lost: Park in the lots by the river.

    A) - They're nicer. B) - When the show's over, there's a freakin' parade of cars that will lead you home through a relatively decent part of town
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    JimNasticsJimNastics Posts: 679
    I spent a week in Hoboken, New Jersey about 5 years ago, thought it was a really nice place (I'm from the UK). I take it Camden's nothing like Hoboken?!
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    JimNastics wrote:
    I spent a week in Hoboken, New Jersey about 5 years ago, thought it was a really nice place (I'm from the UK). I take it Camden's nothing like Hoboken?!

    Hell no. Hoboken is paradise compared to Camden.
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    PrlJam27PrlJam27 Colonia, NJ Posts: 346
    You guys can have staten island, we don't want it anymore.


    No thats ok. Keep it. Everyone has armpits, but not everyone has a tumor growing off of theirs. Thats NY's forever!! Have fun with that.
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    pouch15pouch15 Posts: 436
    JDfromDE wrote:
    That's what I meant when I was talking about the deposit.



    I would venture to say that most of the people who get lost are coming from the south and getting off at Exit 4 from 676, then parking in the lots in the city of Camden. Those lots are scattered around different buildings, and have multiple roads around them, but only one road leads back to Exit 4 to get back onto 676. It's hard to figure out which road that is at night, AND in order to get there you've gotta go through a rough part of town.

    I've been going to shows in Camden for 8 years, and there's one simple solution to not getting lost: Park in the lots by the river.

    A) - They're nicer. B) - When the show's over, there's a freakin' parade of cars that will lead you home through a relatively decent part of town

    II havent traveled to NY or Jersey, Im planning a trip to NY next year, so maybe Ill go to Camden just to see how it is. just corious
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    AmentsChickAmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    Camden is, without a doubt, the worst place I've ever been...even moreso than Tijuana!!! The parking lot was literally AT THE DUMP! Took us an hour and a half to get out of Camden. It was horrible. But the show was totally worth it...just wonder why they play that godforsaken place! :confused:

    The second night was a bit better, but it took us more than an hour to get out of our PARKING SPOT...and 2 hours to get back to Philly! :eek:
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