**The OFFICIAL Live Mental Jewelry/Throwing Copper appreciation thread**

F5
F5 Posts: 794
edited August 2008 in Other Music
I haven't seen this band talked about much on here. In my opinion these two albums are some of the best work Live has done. I'd rank them in my 90's top 10. They are both great albums start to finish. I'd have to say I enjoy listening to Mental Jewelry more probably just because the songs have received less radio play. Some of my favorites are:
The Dam at Otter Creek
Water Song
Selling The Drama
Stage
Pain Lies On The Riverside
Take Me Anthem
Good Pain
Iris
Bridge - 10/25/03
Mansfield I - 6/28/08
Eddie NYC - 8/4/08
Seattle - 9/21/09, 9/22/09
Salt Lake City 9/28/09
LA 9/30/09, 10/07/09
San Diego 10/9/09
Alpine Valley 9/03/11, 9/04/11
Ashbury Park 9/18/21
LA 5/06/21, 5/07/21
Phoenix 05/09/22
NYC 9/11/22
Denver 9/22/22
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  • facepollution
    facepollution Posts: 6,834
    I'm not really a fan of Mental Jewelry, but Throwing Copper is one of my favourite albums ever - I love the song Iris.
  • NewDamage
    NewDamage Posts: 1,913
    Those albums are great, but I prefer Secret Samahdi to both.
    I am lost, I'm no guide. But I'm by your side...

    8/25/92, 10/4/96, 10/5/96, 9/1/98, 9/4/98, 8/4/00, 8/6/00, 4/15/03, 4/16/03, 10/6/04, 6/16/08
  • Stone Irons
    Stone Irons Posts: 430
    NewDamage wrote:
    Those albums are great, but I prefer Secret Samahdi to both.

    me too
    Can't escape from the common rule...
    If you hate something, don't you do it too
  • restlesssoul
    restlesssoul Posts: 6,952
    NewDamage wrote:
    Those albums are great, but I prefer Secret Samahdi to both.


    hell yes.
    Van '98, Sea I+II '00, Sea '01, Sea II '02, Van '03, Gorge, Van, Cal, Edm '05, Bos I+II, Phi I+II, DC, SF II+III, Port, Gorge I+II '06, DC, NY I+II '08, Sea I+II, Van, Ridge , LA III+IV' 09, Indy '10, Cal, Van '11, Lond, Van, Sea '13, Memphis '14, RRHOF '17, Sea I+II '18, Van I+II, Vegas I+II, Sea I+II '24
  • F5
    F5 Posts: 794
    NewDamage wrote:
    Those albums are great, but I prefer Secret Samahdi to both.
    Can't say I've heard it. I'll have to pick it up.
    Bridge - 10/25/03
    Mansfield I - 6/28/08
    Eddie NYC - 8/4/08
    Seattle - 9/21/09, 9/22/09
    Salt Lake City 9/28/09
    LA 9/30/09, 10/07/09
    San Diego 10/9/09
    Alpine Valley 9/03/11, 9/04/11
    Ashbury Park 9/18/21
    LA 5/06/21, 5/07/21
    Phoenix 05/09/22
    NYC 9/11/22
    Denver 9/22/22
  • NewDamage
    NewDamage Posts: 1,913
    mitchmoore2 wrote:
    Can't say I've heard it. I'll have to pick it up.

    Its quite darker I guess you could say...little rough and might take you a few listens. But I consider it their crowning moment. Its the one album of theirs I still play a lot
    I am lost, I'm no guide. But I'm by your side...

    8/25/92, 10/4/96, 10/5/96, 9/1/98, 9/4/98, 8/4/00, 8/6/00, 4/15/03, 4/16/03, 10/6/04, 6/16/08
  • F5
    F5 Posts: 794
    Are there any other standout albums? The only other one I have is "The distance to here" and its not bad.
    Bridge - 10/25/03
    Mansfield I - 6/28/08
    Eddie NYC - 8/4/08
    Seattle - 9/21/09, 9/22/09
    Salt Lake City 9/28/09
    LA 9/30/09, 10/07/09
    San Diego 10/9/09
    Alpine Valley 9/03/11, 9/04/11
    Ashbury Park 9/18/21
    LA 5/06/21, 5/07/21
    Phoenix 05/09/22
    NYC 9/11/22
    Denver 9/22/22
  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,668
    They catch a lot of shit on this board. I love Live. IMHO, "V" is good, too.
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
    Missoula 24
  • NewDamage
    NewDamage Posts: 1,913
    mitchmoore2 wrote:
    Are there any other standout albums? The only other one I have is "The distance to here" and its not bad.

    That one is decent. I remember the first two tracks being really good but then it lost my interest. Someone mentioned "V", and it has its moments but again boring for me overall. I remember buying "Birds of Pray" and listening to it once and shelving it. I think they've done one other one since then and I didn't even bother with that.

    I'm telling ya...Secret Samadhi :) I think once you get into it it'll become your favorite Live record
    I am lost, I'm no guide. But I'm by your side...

    8/25/92, 10/4/96, 10/5/96, 9/1/98, 9/4/98, 8/4/00, 8/6/00, 4/15/03, 4/16/03, 10/6/04, 6/16/08
  • facepollution
    facepollution Posts: 6,834
    mitchmoore2 wrote:
    Can't say I've heard it. I'll have to pick it up.

    Lakini's Juice alone is worth the money. It's a fucking great album.

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=U7B0DoyEGhY
  • F5
    F5 Posts: 794
    Apart from that weird video the song is pretty good!
    Bridge - 10/25/03
    Mansfield I - 6/28/08
    Eddie NYC - 8/4/08
    Seattle - 9/21/09, 9/22/09
    Salt Lake City 9/28/09
    LA 9/30/09, 10/07/09
    San Diego 10/9/09
    Alpine Valley 9/03/11, 9/04/11
    Ashbury Park 9/18/21
    LA 5/06/21, 5/07/21
    Phoenix 05/09/22
    NYC 9/11/22
    Denver 9/22/22
  • Mike_Muse_Rage
    Mike_Muse_Rage Posts: 677
    I just bought Awake - The Best Of Live. Some cool tunes but I prefer the earlier stuff. Lakini's Juice is a brilliant song.
  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,668
    NewDamage wrote:
    Someone mentioned "V", and it has its moments

    like this: "they're pissin' in the mainstream, open up your cage, focus all your rage, the world needs people like you! people like you! people like you! motherfuckers like you! people like you!" :D
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
    Missoula 24
  • alpitt
    alpitt Posts: 91
    Ah, Live. This was my favorite band in early high school until PJ slowly emerged. Secret Samhadi is their best album, though is ultimately forgotten in the way many post-defining albums are. Pretty dark and rockin' and like someone said it may take awhile to hit you (like many great albums). The Distance to Here is solid (anyone else really love the song Meltdown?) but then came the demise. V was...interesting, and good in parts but as a whole didn't do it for me. Then they just started to get less musically creative/more pussy AC radio shit. Now their newer stuff is somewhat embarrassing and at times cringe-worthy It's all very upsetting. I blame Ed K's ego.
    "I'm an ideas man Michael, I think I proved that with F*ck Mountain" -GOB
  • melodyman22
    melodyman22 Posts: 326
    Live is great. Ed has a great voice. He's a great songwrite. I enjoy all there albums.
  • NakedClown
    NakedClown Posts: 545
    Still one of my favorite bands - I agree that Mental Jewelry/TC/Secret Samadhi stand toe-to-toe with any and all other early- to mid-90s albums.

    The Distance to Here is a very, very solid album...

    V, to me, is their low point.

    Birds of Pray has some great songs "Like I do" "River Town" "Lighthouse"... the rest is largely forgettable...

    Their most recent album, Songs From Black Mountain, again has some strong tracks "Sofia" and "Night of Nights" which is one of LIVE's best tracks...

    The rest of that album is kind of "eh..."

    I still hold out hope that they can return to form and put out a great album that reminds us of how good they are...
  • NewDamage
    NewDamage Posts: 1,913
    NakedClown wrote:
    Their most recent album, Songs From Black Mountain, again has some strong tracks "Sofia" and "Night of Nights" which is one of LIVE's best tracks...

    I haven't heard a thing off of it. I was so disappointed in "Birds of Pray" that I didn't even give it a chance.

    For someone who loves Mental Jewelry-Secret Samadhi, but is only lukewarm to "Distance To Here", do you think this one is worth getting?

    This thread has renewed my interest in Live. Haven't listened to them for a long time but I've got "Throwing Copper" playing right now
    I am lost, I'm no guide. But I'm by your side...

    8/25/92, 10/4/96, 10/5/96, 9/1/98, 9/4/98, 8/4/00, 8/6/00, 4/15/03, 4/16/03, 10/6/04, 6/16/08
  • NewDamage
    NewDamage Posts: 1,913
    I was reading Live's bio and apparently they did an album before "Mental Jewelry." The band was then known as Public Affection. Here's the review of that album:

    http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:ua9fs34qa3mg
    I am lost, I'm no guide. But I'm by your side...

    8/25/92, 10/4/96, 10/5/96, 9/1/98, 9/4/98, 8/4/00, 8/6/00, 4/15/03, 4/16/03, 10/6/04, 6/16/08
  • NakedClown
    NakedClown Posts: 545
    NewDamage wrote:
    I haven't heard a thing off of it. I was so disappointed in "Birds of Pray" that I didn't even give it a chance.

    For someone who loves Mental Jewelry-Secret Samadhi, but is only lukewarm to "Distance To Here", do you think this one is worth getting?

    This thread has renewed my interest in Live. Haven't listened to them for a long time but I've got "Throwing Copper" playing right now

    I wouldn't get the whole album... but you could download those tracks and be happy...
  • alpitt
    alpitt Posts: 91
    Public Affection's 'Death of a Dictionary' is actually not bad, not bad at all. It's got that mid-late 80's feel to it which gives it some charm.
    "I'm an ideas man Michael, I think I proved that with F*ck Mountain" -GOB

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