Usually this is said when a band makes a radical departure from their style, not necessarily whan they make something which sounds derivativee of the old albums
IMO, some of the stuff does sound like older Tool, but it also sounds fresh.
What Tool song sounds like WfM/10k Days? I would be the first to hate it. Their long "musical journey" usually dont really thrill me at all, but this is well put together. I think its the least derivitive and the best song Tool has ever done.
again, I havent heard the new album, just the vicarious single.
But seems to me, whenever tool releases a cd, its highly complex, the references to carl jung, evolution, and genetics on Aenima.
The odd time signitures and drumming in lateralus, the supposed fibonocci sequence.
This is a band that spends a HUGE amount of time in their music, thats why its almost worth it for them to take 5 years to make cd's. because you know the cd will be a guaranteed mindblower.
I dont get the feeling from other peoples responses about the leaked cd.
people also suggest that many of the songs have lifted riffs from previous tool songs.
Could tool be that out of ideas that they take riffs from their old songs?
To me, tool is miles above any band in terms of complexity, and beautiful songs.
maybe I will be blown away when I finally here the new cd.
All I know is that I dont think people said this about lateralus. People were blown away, and rightly so. It took people 5 years alone to just digest that cd. People seem to suggest the new cd is complete crap and isnt very complex.
I just am surprised. I never imagined people would be saying tool made an album that wasnt mindblowing. It just never occured to me
There is not a song on the album in a conventional time signature, and that is what makes their songs sound complex. Some of them actually are, b/c of that also.
they're probably yelling "decoy" so people will still go buy the record on may 2nd, thinking they haven't already purchased it. the 6 or so harder songs on the album are definitely Tool, no way to fake that. The rest of the more artsy songs could be decoys, but i highly doubt it.
these days bands can only get within a week or two (at best) of the album's actual release date before the album gets leaked. there's really no way around it, seeing as how millions of copies of the album have to get produced
and shipped out to stores several days before the release date. and all it takes is one individual to get the finished product uploaded to their PC, and then, bam, the leak turns into a tsunami. this is the sad reality.
True, the only possibility that this is not the real version is if the album is not called 10, 000 days, which was the case with Lateralus, when people were looking for an album called "Systema Encéphale". And then a week before release the album and actual album title came out. This time though there's music and everything, so this would be very elaborate, but honestly, if there's a band that would do it, it would be Tool.
It could be b-sides or at least a mix of 2 albums. I don't usually dwnload albums prior to release but I did with this one(not PJ if you want to know).
because of the hype.
Let's think about this for a minute, the word HYPE. We,ve all heard the tool album is coming soon, but until 2 weeks ago or so nobody heard the single or was the album leaked. all of a sudden there is a 20 second clip, then the single was leaked, then the album was leaked, all in a matter of 3 days.
The leaked version is a good listen, could be an album, but if you go to amazon they're offering 10000 days (domestic) + 10000 days (import) for 45 bucks or so , why would you buy both if there going to have 80-90% the same material on both album?
My conclusion is TOOL is TOOL and we'll all be waiting 'till May second to find out and NOT any other bands can make their fans wonder if the illegal copy of the album is the REAL one.
Pure Genious (if intended or not)
"I'll be hanging upside down, and there I will swing, for all e.........tern.............ni..............ty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's 76 flippin minutes!!! That's not an EP, kids. Well, perhaps if you have some serious ADD going on.
Many bands record 20-30 songs and then whittle that down to 10-12 songs for an album.
I cannot be certain that the leak is the final version, since they likley had a number of songs recorded, mixed, and mastered prior to the final assembly ofthe album.
I like the album. It's Tool. You have to be ready for a certain percentage of it to be head music.
This was posted in the Sept. 2005 edition of Tool's newsletter.
"Now where was I?.. Oh yeah, TOOL!.. I'm not going to reveal my source, Mister Patience, but do you want to know the kind of things that have been going on while this record was being recorded? Okay, first there was the decoy record just to confound all those would-be bootleggers out there. This took, oh, about a year, just because the band members wanted it to sound pretty close to the real thing (so as to be believable), along with equally believable art design."
I think the leaked CD is a decoy. It's odd the last two tracks would be just fillers.
sounds like it's real,but i don't like how hal or maybe even more than half of the songs are "throw away songs"[songs with no lyrics].i can't stand listening to 8 minutes of just weird noises w/ no lyrics...kind of why i never really got that much into floyd.and don't get me wrong,i like both bands.you would just figure that within the 4 or 5 years it has taken to make this album they could have made 11-13 real songs.
It's certainly not something expected by Tool fans, but I still think the album is very good. The more listens, the better it is. I thought it sucked the first time through. Vicarious, Jambi, 10,000 Days and The Pot are awesome songs IMO.
The journalist Andy King has taken ALOT of **** from TOOL's management and record company for posting this review on totalrock.com, which was taken down because of pressure from the band, their managment and label. He has now been denied the scheduled interview with the band because of this review, which in my opinion doesnt reveal much. Anyway, here's what all the drama is about...
The TOOL Story Marches On
From Andy King, TotalRock… New Album playback at 10, Golborne Road, London W10 -
February 20th 2006... 4pm and 7.30pm
There is something delightfully Toolian about staging a series of European album
press/radio playback and ‘meet-the-new-Record-Company’ dates whilst not only not
revealing the name of said new album but also keeping all the track titles
themselves firmly under wraps.
For your roving Tool reporter, this presents two particular difficulties –
firstly it makes accurate reviewing a task almost as hazardous as Quail shooting
whilst under the influence (perish the thought that anyone could even
contemplate such foolishness) and secondly it prompts momentary, and forgivable,
cynicism along the lines of ‘They’re ‘avin’ a larff! This is just an elaborate,
fake decoy album!’. Oh ****, there I go with those hunting expressions again.
Today (and I use the word entirely accurately - as my Tool obsession squirts
into me such blind courage as to prompt me to lurk, contrary to Record Company
wishes, in the shadows for 90 minutes - so as to catch both the 4pm and 7.30pm
playbacks) - today, the Record Company has displayed a remarkable degree of
Tool-savvy by booking an unheard of pub-for-bohemians in West London’s debatably
fashionable and trendy (or downright dangerous – unless, like me, you have at
least two layers of hoodies on top of your baseball hat) W10 area. 10, Golbourne
Road is at the foot of one of London’s once most notorious and scary tower
blocks – Erno Goldfinger’s (not to mention The Clash’s) Trellick Tower – now
perversely, and miraculously, transmogrified into one of the City’s most
desirable residences. It sez ‘ere.
It’s a joy – in this day and age and with such a multi-million selling global
mega-band (yes, it really is true, fans!) – to immediately bump into ¾ of the
band casually swigging beer from bottles (or, somewhat surprisingly, Starbucks
from a paper cup in Maynard’s case) and chatting amiably with the assembled
mid-afternoon gathering of hacks. It’s always a joy to meet a man so much ‘his
own man’ and Maynard, as usual, manages to take such an expression to dizzy new
heights. As inscrutable as the ******* offspring of Chairman Mao and Wallace &
Gromit’s Were Rabbit (slightly caught in the headlights of my immediate and
presumptuous ‘hail fellow well met’ self-introduction) Maynard professes to
‘feeling a little jet-lagged’ and at once hops off to safer environs. Meanwhile
big haired Danny and Justin look, for all the world, like a brace of goddamn
hippies from the Bong Shop down the road. As has been revealed – Adam has
remained in LA ‘directing the video’.
After a 30 minute delay in proceedings – caused by a tardy and self-important
bunch of hacks creeping out of some rank corner of the evil EMAP Empire (they’re
all Borgs, we suspect) the Anonymous Playback of The Nameless Songs commences…
‘probably nearly in their Final Running Order’, we are told. Readers will,
hopefully, forgive any inaccuracies in reportage. On first listen I surmised
this was an 9 track album, managing to squeeze this figure up to 10 on second
hearing, whilst having confirmation from the band that it was, in fact an 11
track album. (They thought).
Queens Of The Stone Age, The Melvins, Turbonegro, Satyricon, Weezer and Hole.
Hmmm... Joe Baresi’s CV might not be an immediate one to catch the attention
whilst puzzling over a new Producer for a band such as our heroes. But then,
Tool never have been noted for the obvious, the easier, softer way. The band
dynamic IS different on this work. But it’s a challenging difference – perhaps
no great surprise for a band which often borders on the recalcitrant. As might
have been expected from a ‘guitar-oriented’ knob twiddler– the guitars are very
much to the fore. Perhaps more so than on any work since Opiate. And there are
other notables – but more of those later. What we have here with The Album With
No Name (rather a good title, boys… why not go for it? Surely it’s not too
late?) is yet another milestone in the journey of one of the most innovative of
rock bands of the last 30 years. It’s a Rollercoaster. It’s difficult (‘Hurrah!’
I hear you yell!). It’s at points dense, frustrating and impenetrable
(‘Wahaay!’). On occasion it provides the band’s most commercial work to date. At
worst, it heavily borrows hooks and snippets from, mainly, the Lateralus album.
At best, it’s soaring and stunning and staggering – an exercise in aural, no
sensory, exploration. In short, it’s the new Tool album and it’s fudging great…
Track 1 (7min 3sec). Mesmeric start. Hypnotic beat. Jagged, angular off beats.
Familiar trancey passages punctuated by a guitar part reminiscent of an older
Tool track. Tribal drum beats fudge with a lovely melody and climax with
Maynard’s vocals. I am going to cry.
Track 2 (7min 12sec) Melodic intro with almost balladic vocals from Maynard.
Lighter feel (almost, dare I say it, APC-tinged) but not for long. Danny gets
stronger – Baresi releases our tubthumper and the feel gets much heavier into
‘chugga chugga’ off beats. Then – here’s some unusual guitar work. Man, it’s
almost Hendix-like! Then back into a heavy tribal groove. I fight off the urge
to masturbate furiously.
Track 3/4 (This is either one 17 minute monster or two tracks – of 6min 20sec
and 10min 26sec – only the Gods Of The Stinfist know the answer). Whichever it
is – DO NOT SMOKE THE WEED WHILST LISTENING TO IT! Starting with Buddhist
temple-flavoured gong tweaking the collective nipples of Kraftwerk, a deep
sphincter-rumbling bass and om chanting might recall ‘Parabol’. After 3 minutes
of this nerve-wracking niceness, all Hell breaks loose with mega-heavy riffdom
before slipping back into spaciness after 30 seconds. Like an epileptic
convulsion in a night of deep sleep. Hawkwind does Greensleeves whilst Pink
Floys look on. The Record Company people are starting to look nervous and
uncomfortable as if they have seldom HEARD anything so strange and worrying.
What the fudge is this? Let me outta here! I need to go snuggle the Radio One
Playlist! Suddenly it’s a crazed sea shanty for whacked-out space travelers.
‘You’re the only one who can hold your head up high. It’s my time now… my time
now… give me my… give me my…’ duets Maynard with himself. Danny fights free of
the evil clutches of Dr Baresi and goes off on one. Adam’s guitar recalls
something off Lateralus again. It’s Triad, I think, but it’s almost impossible
to identify one riff whilst another song goes on. The musical equivalent of
rubbing one’s head and tummy simultaneously in different directions. They’re
doing this on purpose to fudge with our heads. ********! Returns to full-on
rhythmic Toolishness to end. No it isn’t the end. It doesn’t end like any other
song ends. Tool never ends. I’m losing it. Therap me now, please.
Track 5 (Probably. 6min 11 sec definitely). Oooooooh. This is THE one. Ya know
what, pluggers? Radio might even go for this! Maynard’s vocals at the start are
quite extraordinary. Place equal parts of Chris De Burgh, Tiny Tim and Bilal The
Muezzin in a blender and run for your life. Easily the most commercial track to
date. In fact, easily the most commercial track Tool have EVER done. That guitar
is waaay strong again. Did Adam bribe Baresi? This is still twisted. It’s hard
but commercial. The end spells a relief as climactic as a boil bursting. I go
‘Yessssss’ and the whole room of cool jouros looks round at me as if I’m a
Bateman cartoon ‘The Man Who Ordered A Pork Sandwich In Blooms’. This is a
SERIOUSLY awesome track. Just you mark my words.
Track 6 (1min). In which Maynard becomes a Native American for no good reason.
Strange, but we like a bit of strangeness.
Track 7 (Maybe. Could be two medium length tracks and a terribly short one, too.
I’m now losing the will to live with the stopwatch. It’s 14min 45sec of music,
whatever). Guitars to the fore again. One long note with almost blues-like,
overlaid note progressions. fudge me, it’s House Of The Rising Sun cut with
Ketamine. There are unsettling whispers and talking. Is this a bad trip or a
psychiatry session? Come to think of it, is there a difference? ‘How Are You
Today?’… ‘Tell Me Everything’ then THWACK! Into such a breathtakingly slappy,
powerful riff kick that I’m actually physically winded for a nanosecond.
Demonic, growling, rap noise over rhythmic heavy heavy groove. Forget the Were
Rabbit jibe. This is a fudging full-on, nasty, shaven headed WEREWOLF. A lightbulb
goes mental in the room. The Record Company almost lose all cool and run for it.
I damn nearly join them but now I AM crying. I am gulping back wracking sobs at
the sheer Toolishness of this monstrous, magnificent track. This is the real
deal. Again snippets from Lateralus. You ARE playing with us. You ARE! This is
Tool’s equivalent of ‘spot the Hitchcock in the Hitchcock film’! But I don’t
care. It’s like The Best Of Tool in one song. The Bomb. It ends like the violent
end of a violent life. And then it ends again. Unless that’s another track, of
course….
Track 8 (6min 44sec). Odd noises. Sea shore meets ironworks. Ever see the
cartoon meisterwerk ‘Spirited Away’? You MUST! In it there is a character called
Kamajii The Boiler Keeper who has 6 arms and an army of small black coals. This
sound is similar. Soon joined by elastic bass and drum twangling over
multi-layered Maynard whisperings and chanted vox. Shades of Pink Floyd again.
Shades of the more ‘moody’ Lateralus tracks again. Reflection. Disposition.
Tribal and hypnotic.
Track 9 (9min 04sec. I think). Melodic, slow, hypnotic. Almost balladic. Wall of Sound build-up. Danny does some Bamboo pole-type drumming into big rif***e. Big, big sound. Tool at their weightiest. It’s almost Chinese at the end. I can think of worse things to be like. Perhaps the boys have their eyes on the World’s fastest developing market?
Track 10 (OK it’s 11 but I’m fudge if I can work out how we got here). The walk out track (their description not mine). Oddness. The Noodles of Satan.
And that’s it. First playback and Maynard bids us farewell. ‘Hope you enjoyed it. If you didn’t we could put on a little Green Day for you?’. Second playback and Justin apologises for not being The Arctic Monkeys. We smoodge and chatter. We remember that Danny is actually the World’s nicest (and tallest) man. If only I could feel as comfy in my skin as he does. That’s it – go on, compare my insides with his outsides. We rejoice in the fact that ¼ of Tool is, in fact, English. We clamber onto our pushbike past legions of hoodies whilst the Tool Carnival ups and offs to Amsterdam. fudge knows where THAT playback will take place but I have a shrewd idea or two…
So at a guess i'd say if the copy you've listened to sounds like this then it's the real deal.
This cd doesn't settle for me for some reason.
I have a feeling there is something more to it.
It is good but not great.
It is not better than Lateralus nor Aenima considering it just sounds like used riffs and drum beat from the two.
I believe the double cd theory ...or double release concept.
1. The art work is all supposed to be stereoscopic (Two views)
2. Title track part of a 2 song epic.
3. Right in Two is basically split in two
4. It is being released on 2 record labels.
5. Amazon has 2 versions for sale ..import and domestic but import is like 27 bucks.
6. Many radio stations referr to the album as 10.000 years and claim that is what the official release says.
I believe the double cd theory ...or double release concept.
1. The art work is all supposed to be stereoscopic (Two views)
2. Title track part of a 2 song epic.
3. Right in Two is basically split in two
4. It is being released on 2 record labels.
5. Amazon has 2 versions for sale ..import and domestic but import is like 27 bucks.
6. Many radio stations referr to the album as 10.000 years and claim that is what the official release says.
1. It prob will when it's released.
2. Yes, title track is a 2 part epic. What's your point?
3. Again, whats your point?
4. It's being released on Volcano.
5.Imports are always more expensive, this means nothing. Besides, Amazon UK only have 1 version listed.
6.The album is called 10,000 Days - this is a FACT.
If the version you've listened to is the same as what Tool let the press listen to in the post i made above - then that is the new album. No if's or buts. If i'm proven wrong then i will be very suprised - but i won't be cos i'm right.
1. It prob will when it's released.
2. Yes, title track is a 2 part epic. What's your point?
3. Again, whats your point?
4. It's being released on Volcano.
5.Imports are always more expensive, this means nothing. Besides, Amazon UK only have 1 version listed.
6.The album is called 10,000 Days - this is a FACT.
If the version you've listened to is the same as what Tool let the press listen to in the post i made above - then that is the new album. No if's or buts. If i'm proven wrong then i will be very suprised - but i won't be cos i'm right.
Sorry i figured my post clearly brought the point up of how many references to 2 there is related to this cd. It is being released on Volcano and Sony/BMG.
when a perfect circle released their 2nd album there was leaked songs that sounded nowt like the final effort, plus some were the same song with different names.
Aussie and perhaps Kiwi fans better make sure they get in early!!
"Fans will be able to beat the stampede to secure themselves a copy of '10,000 Days' when stores in Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane and Adelaide open at 12:01am on Saturday, April 29 (that's the Friday night) to sell the very first copies of the album available in Australia. Stock of the extravagantly packaged '10,000 Days' will be incredibly limited for the first two weeks - Australian stores will be accepting reduced quantities due to global demand exceeding production capacity, so get in quick or you'll have to wait."
There's a few things that don't sit right with me:
1. Recycled riffs: Much of Wings For Marie was used as an intro to Parabol/Parabola on the Lateralus tour. The tabla later on in the album is reminiscent of the Salival version of Pushit.
2. Recycled art: The cover art is an adaptation of Alex Grey's Web of Being. Grey's Lateralus artwork was original for the album.
3. This mysterious import version of 10,000 Days with a 5/16 release date on Amazon and Target.com has been joined by import versions of Tool's other albums, all scheduled for release on 5/16.
4. The amount of secrecy around the recording of this album is/was unparalleled. Anyone in the vicinity of the creative process was greeted with a fat confidentiality agreement. Media who received listening parties were not allowed to report on the session until mid-April (all the while still not receiving an album name or song names). This all seems like overkill, given 1 and 2.
That said, I think 10,000 Days will be widely available as is on 5/2. I just believe that this isn't the full picture and maybe that answer comes on 5/16 (also, let's not forget that 6/6/06 follows shortly after, a Tuesday to boot).
By the way, I have 10,000 Days and it's pretty damn good (WFM/10K Days is fantastic). Should be interesting!
"I work at borders in receiving and shipping, and both the import and 10000 days are supposed dual cd's. The import is listed as having a dvd, and cd. The cd is listed as having 2 CD's. I looked this up after I heard my boss talking about an album given to amazon that they sold thinking it would be one cd. (supposedly amazon is pissed they can't change the price with the new knowledge) With all the crazyness here I ran to the computer and it was TOOL. So it's either a decoy, or a live cd?"
the beatles often recylced older riffs in their songs
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
here's another post that was on the 10,000 days forum. Just throwing it out here to get some thoughts on the subject
"So my girlfriend Kayla talked to her friend who happens to be a manager at Best Buy today. She said that pre-orders for 10,000 Days have been the highest the store has ever seen. This is great for the store... or is it?
He said that everytime he calls the distributor they give him new info about the album. At first they said that it was coming with a free DVD with footage from the listening sessions, and then the next week said it would be a bonus CD. This story from them changed at least five times, he said, until he finally just gave up. He says he doesn't know what price to put on the CD due to the possibility that it might be a double album. He said that the distributor sounded "nervous" last time he called, like no one at the office knew what was going on. Here's the funny part...
He said that in some of the promo copies that have been sent out, once you open the CD package, there are two disc holders, one at each side, like "Salival." He said that this could mean that there will be a limited number of copies with a bonus disc but said "Making a double album a limited pressing is illogical because it robs the album of its overall effect."
The last thing he said is that when he called the distributor once, he was assured that the album wouldn't leak by any means until April 28th. The person he talked to mentioned the fake Counterfist leak and said that anything before April 28th that leaks is a hoax and not to be taken seriously."
There's a few things that don't sit right with me:
1. Recycled riffs: Much of Wings For Marie was used as an intro to Parabol/Parabola on the Lateralus tour. The tabla later on in the album is reminiscent of the Salival version of Pushit.
2. Recycled art: The cover art is an adaptation of Alex Grey's Web of Being. Grey's Lateralus artwork was original for the album.
3. This mysterious import version of 10,000 Days with a 5/16 release date on Amazon and Target.com has been joined by import versions of Tool's other albums, all scheduled for release on 5/16.
4. The amount of secrecy around the recording of this album is/was unparalleled. Anyone in the vicinity of the creative process was greeted with a fat confidentiality agreement. Media who received listening parties were not allowed to report on the session until mid-April (all the while still not receiving an album name or song names). This all seems like overkill, given 1 and 2.
That said, I think 10,000 Days will be widely available as is on 5/2. I just believe that this isn't the full picture and maybe that answer comes on 5/16 (also, let's not forget that 6/6/06 follows shortly after, a Tuesday to boot).
By the way, I have 10,000 Days and it's pretty damn good (WFM/10K Days is fantastic). Should be interesting!
Good read. I reserved My pearl Jam, and Tool today. I can pick them up on May 2nd.
The only thing I enjoy is having no feelings....being numb rocks!
And I won't make the same mistakes
(Because I know)
Because I know how much time that wastes
(And function)
Function is the key
There's a few things that don't sit right with me:
1. Recycled riffs: Much of Wings For Marie was used as an intro to Parabol/Parabola on the Lateralus tour. The tabla later on in the album is reminiscent of the Salival version of Pushit.
2. Recycled art: The cover art is an adaptation of Alex Grey's Web of Being. Grey's Lateralus artwork was original for the album.
3. This mysterious import version of 10,000 Days with a 5/16 release date on Amazon and Target.com has been joined by import versions of Tool's other albums, all scheduled for release on 5/16.
4. The amount of secrecy around the recording of this album is/was unparalleled. Anyone in the vicinity of the creative process was greeted with a fat confidentiality agreement. Media who received listening parties were not allowed to report on the session until mid-April (all the while still not receiving an album name or song names). This all seems like overkill, given 1 and 2.
That said, I think 10,000 Days will be widely available as is on 5/2. I just believe that this isn't the full picture and maybe that answer comes on 5/16 (also, let's not forget that 6/6/06 follows shortly after, a Tuesday to boot).
By the way, I have 10,000 Days and it's pretty damn good (WFM/10K Days is fantastic). Should be interesting!
OK. Up until I read this post I truly thought that this rumor of the leaked album being a decoy was nothing but BS. Now...? Hmmmm. You made some good points and given me cause to think a bit more about it. I guess we'll know for sure soon.
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IMO, some of the stuff does sound like older Tool, but it also sounds fresh.
What Tool song sounds like WfM/10k Days? I would be the first to hate it. Their long "musical journey" usually dont really thrill me at all, but this is well put together. I think its the least derivitive and the best song Tool has ever done.
There is not a song on the album in a conventional time signature, and that is what makes their songs sound complex. Some of them actually are, b/c of that also.
True, the only possibility that this is not the real version is if the album is not called 10, 000 days, which was the case with Lateralus, when people were looking for an album called "Systema Encéphale". And then a week before release the album and actual album title came out. This time though there's music and everything, so this would be very elaborate, but honestly, if there's a band that would do it, it would be Tool.
If its a decoy my hubbie and I would like to know who this band is.
Cause they are really good!
because of the hype.
Let's think about this for a minute, the word HYPE. We,ve all heard the tool album is coming soon, but until 2 weeks ago or so nobody heard the single or was the album leaked. all of a sudden there is a 20 second clip, then the single was leaked, then the album was leaked, all in a matter of 3 days.
The leaked version is a good listen, could be an album, but if you go to amazon they're offering 10000 days (domestic) + 10000 days (import) for 45 bucks or so , why would you buy both if there going to have 80-90% the same material on both album?
My conclusion is TOOL is TOOL and we'll all be waiting 'till May second to find out and NOT any other bands can make their fans wonder if the illegal copy of the album is the REAL one.
Pure Genious (if intended or not)
Everyone's in agreement that it's Tool, and I agree that this leak is a decent ep.
Many bands record 20-30 songs and then whittle that down to 10-12 songs for an album.
I cannot be certain that the leak is the final version, since they likley had a number of songs recorded, mixed, and mastered prior to the final assembly ofthe album.
I like the album. It's Tool. You have to be ready for a certain percentage of it to be head music.
old music: http://www.myspace.com/slowloader
"Now where was I?.. Oh yeah, TOOL!.. I'm not going to reveal my source, Mister Patience, but do you want to know the kind of things that have been going on while this record was being recorded? Okay, first there was the decoy record just to confound all those would-be bootleggers out there. This took, oh, about a year, just because the band members wanted it to sound pretty close to the real thing (so as to be believable), along with equally believable art design."
I think the leaked CD is a decoy. It's odd the last two tracks would be just fillers.
i dunno what to think about all this haha but to answer your question....blind melon......the song "soup" wasn't on the album of the same name
The TOOL Story Marches On
From Andy King, TotalRock… New Album playback at 10, Golborne Road, London W10 -
February 20th 2006... 4pm and 7.30pm
There is something delightfully Toolian about staging a series of European album
press/radio playback and ‘meet-the-new-Record-Company’ dates whilst not only not
revealing the name of said new album but also keeping all the track titles
themselves firmly under wraps.
For your roving Tool reporter, this presents two particular difficulties –
firstly it makes accurate reviewing a task almost as hazardous as Quail shooting
whilst under the influence (perish the thought that anyone could even
contemplate such foolishness) and secondly it prompts momentary, and forgivable,
cynicism along the lines of ‘They’re ‘avin’ a larff! This is just an elaborate,
fake decoy album!’. Oh ****, there I go with those hunting expressions again.
Today (and I use the word entirely accurately - as my Tool obsession squirts
into me such blind courage as to prompt me to lurk, contrary to Record Company
wishes, in the shadows for 90 minutes - so as to catch both the 4pm and 7.30pm
playbacks) - today, the Record Company has displayed a remarkable degree of
Tool-savvy by booking an unheard of pub-for-bohemians in West London’s debatably
fashionable and trendy (or downright dangerous – unless, like me, you have at
least two layers of hoodies on top of your baseball hat) W10 area. 10, Golbourne
Road is at the foot of one of London’s once most notorious and scary tower
blocks – Erno Goldfinger’s (not to mention The Clash’s) Trellick Tower – now
perversely, and miraculously, transmogrified into one of the City’s most
desirable residences. It sez ‘ere.
It’s a joy – in this day and age and with such a multi-million selling global
mega-band (yes, it really is true, fans!) – to immediately bump into ¾ of the
band casually swigging beer from bottles (or, somewhat surprisingly, Starbucks
from a paper cup in Maynard’s case) and chatting amiably with the assembled
mid-afternoon gathering of hacks. It’s always a joy to meet a man so much ‘his
own man’ and Maynard, as usual, manages to take such an expression to dizzy new
heights. As inscrutable as the ******* offspring of Chairman Mao and Wallace &
Gromit’s Were Rabbit (slightly caught in the headlights of my immediate and
presumptuous ‘hail fellow well met’ self-introduction) Maynard professes to
‘feeling a little jet-lagged’ and at once hops off to safer environs. Meanwhile
big haired Danny and Justin look, for all the world, like a brace of goddamn
hippies from the Bong Shop down the road. As has been revealed – Adam has
remained in LA ‘directing the video’.
After a 30 minute delay in proceedings – caused by a tardy and self-important
bunch of hacks creeping out of some rank corner of the evil EMAP Empire (they’re
all Borgs, we suspect) the Anonymous Playback of The Nameless Songs commences…
‘probably nearly in their Final Running Order’, we are told. Readers will,
hopefully, forgive any inaccuracies in reportage. On first listen I surmised
this was an 9 track album, managing to squeeze this figure up to 10 on second
hearing, whilst having confirmation from the band that it was, in fact an 11
track album. (They thought).
Queens Of The Stone Age, The Melvins, Turbonegro, Satyricon, Weezer and Hole.
Hmmm... Joe Baresi’s CV might not be an immediate one to catch the attention
whilst puzzling over a new Producer for a band such as our heroes. But then,
Tool never have been noted for the obvious, the easier, softer way. The band
dynamic IS different on this work. But it’s a challenging difference – perhaps
no great surprise for a band which often borders on the recalcitrant. As might
have been expected from a ‘guitar-oriented’ knob twiddler– the guitars are very
much to the fore. Perhaps more so than on any work since Opiate. And there are
other notables – but more of those later. What we have here with The Album With
No Name (rather a good title, boys… why not go for it? Surely it’s not too
late?) is yet another milestone in the journey of one of the most innovative of
rock bands of the last 30 years. It’s a Rollercoaster. It’s difficult (‘Hurrah!’
I hear you yell!). It’s at points dense, frustrating and impenetrable
(‘Wahaay!’). On occasion it provides the band’s most commercial work to date. At
worst, it heavily borrows hooks and snippets from, mainly, the Lateralus album.
At best, it’s soaring and stunning and staggering – an exercise in aural, no
sensory, exploration. In short, it’s the new Tool album and it’s fudging great…
Track 1 (7min 3sec). Mesmeric start. Hypnotic beat. Jagged, angular off beats.
Familiar trancey passages punctuated by a guitar part reminiscent of an older
Tool track. Tribal drum beats fudge with a lovely melody and climax with
Maynard’s vocals. I am going to cry.
Track 2 (7min 12sec) Melodic intro with almost balladic vocals from Maynard.
Lighter feel (almost, dare I say it, APC-tinged) but not for long. Danny gets
stronger – Baresi releases our tubthumper and the feel gets much heavier into
‘chugga chugga’ off beats. Then – here’s some unusual guitar work. Man, it’s
almost Hendix-like! Then back into a heavy tribal groove. I fight off the urge
to masturbate furiously.
Track 3/4 (This is either one 17 minute monster or two tracks – of 6min 20sec
and 10min 26sec – only the Gods Of The Stinfist know the answer). Whichever it
is – DO NOT SMOKE THE WEED WHILST LISTENING TO IT! Starting with Buddhist
temple-flavoured gong tweaking the collective nipples of Kraftwerk, a deep
sphincter-rumbling bass and om chanting might recall ‘Parabol’. After 3 minutes
of this nerve-wracking niceness, all Hell breaks loose with mega-heavy riffdom
before slipping back into spaciness after 30 seconds. Like an epileptic
convulsion in a night of deep sleep. Hawkwind does Greensleeves whilst Pink
Floys look on. The Record Company people are starting to look nervous and
uncomfortable as if they have seldom HEARD anything so strange and worrying.
What the fudge is this? Let me outta here! I need to go snuggle the Radio One
Playlist! Suddenly it’s a crazed sea shanty for whacked-out space travelers.
‘You’re the only one who can hold your head up high. It’s my time now… my time
now… give me my… give me my…’ duets Maynard with himself. Danny fights free of
the evil clutches of Dr Baresi and goes off on one. Adam’s guitar recalls
something off Lateralus again. It’s Triad, I think, but it’s almost impossible
to identify one riff whilst another song goes on. The musical equivalent of
rubbing one’s head and tummy simultaneously in different directions. They’re
doing this on purpose to fudge with our heads. ********! Returns to full-on
rhythmic Toolishness to end. No it isn’t the end. It doesn’t end like any other
song ends. Tool never ends. I’m losing it. Therap me now, please.
Track 5 (Probably. 6min 11 sec definitely). Oooooooh. This is THE one. Ya know
what, pluggers? Radio might even go for this! Maynard’s vocals at the start are
quite extraordinary. Place equal parts of Chris De Burgh, Tiny Tim and Bilal The
Muezzin in a blender and run for your life. Easily the most commercial track to
date. In fact, easily the most commercial track Tool have EVER done. That guitar
is waaay strong again. Did Adam bribe Baresi? This is still twisted. It’s hard
but commercial. The end spells a relief as climactic as a boil bursting. I go
‘Yessssss’ and the whole room of cool jouros looks round at me as if I’m a
Bateman cartoon ‘The Man Who Ordered A Pork Sandwich In Blooms’. This is a
SERIOUSLY awesome track. Just you mark my words.
Track 6 (1min). In which Maynard becomes a Native American for no good reason.
Strange, but we like a bit of strangeness.
Track 7 (Maybe. Could be two medium length tracks and a terribly short one, too.
I’m now losing the will to live with the stopwatch. It’s 14min 45sec of music,
whatever). Guitars to the fore again. One long note with almost blues-like,
overlaid note progressions. fudge me, it’s House Of The Rising Sun cut with
Ketamine. There are unsettling whispers and talking. Is this a bad trip or a
psychiatry session? Come to think of it, is there a difference? ‘How Are You
Today?’… ‘Tell Me Everything’ then THWACK! Into such a breathtakingly slappy,
powerful riff kick that I’m actually physically winded for a nanosecond.
Demonic, growling, rap noise over rhythmic heavy heavy groove. Forget the Were
Rabbit jibe. This is a fudging full-on, nasty, shaven headed WEREWOLF. A lightbulb
goes mental in the room. The Record Company almost lose all cool and run for it.
I damn nearly join them but now I AM crying. I am gulping back wracking sobs at
the sheer Toolishness of this monstrous, magnificent track. This is the real
deal. Again snippets from Lateralus. You ARE playing with us. You ARE! This is
Tool’s equivalent of ‘spot the Hitchcock in the Hitchcock film’! But I don’t
care. It’s like The Best Of Tool in one song. The Bomb. It ends like the violent
end of a violent life. And then it ends again. Unless that’s another track, of
course….
Track 8 (6min 44sec). Odd noises. Sea shore meets ironworks. Ever see the
cartoon meisterwerk ‘Spirited Away’? You MUST! In it there is a character called
Kamajii The Boiler Keeper who has 6 arms and an army of small black coals. This
sound is similar. Soon joined by elastic bass and drum twangling over
multi-layered Maynard whisperings and chanted vox. Shades of Pink Floyd again.
Shades of the more ‘moody’ Lateralus tracks again. Reflection. Disposition.
Tribal and hypnotic.
Track 9 (9min 04sec. I think). Melodic, slow, hypnotic. Almost balladic. Wall of Sound build-up. Danny does some Bamboo pole-type drumming into big rif***e. Big, big sound. Tool at their weightiest. It’s almost Chinese at the end. I can think of worse things to be like. Perhaps the boys have their eyes on the World’s fastest developing market?
Track 10 (OK it’s 11 but I’m fudge if I can work out how we got here). The walk out track (their description not mine). Oddness. The Noodles of Satan.
And that’s it. First playback and Maynard bids us farewell. ‘Hope you enjoyed it. If you didn’t we could put on a little Green Day for you?’. Second playback and Justin apologises for not being The Arctic Monkeys. We smoodge and chatter. We remember that Danny is actually the World’s nicest (and tallest) man. If only I could feel as comfy in my skin as he does. That’s it – go on, compare my insides with his outsides. We rejoice in the fact that ¼ of Tool is, in fact, English. We clamber onto our pushbike past legions of hoodies whilst the Tool Carnival ups and offs to Amsterdam. fudge knows where THAT playback will take place but I have a shrewd idea or two…
So at a guess i'd say if the copy you've listened to sounds like this then it's the real deal.
I have a feeling there is something more to it.
It is good but not great.
It is not better than Lateralus nor Aenima considering it just sounds like used riffs and drum beat from the two.
I believe the double cd theory ...or double release concept.
1. The art work is all supposed to be stereoscopic (Two views)
2. Title track part of a 2 song epic.
3. Right in Two is basically split in two
4. It is being released on 2 record labels.
5. Amazon has 2 versions for sale ..import and domestic but import is like 27 bucks.
6. Many radio stations referr to the album as 10.000 years and claim that is what the official release says.
1. It prob will when it's released.
2. Yes, title track is a 2 part epic. What's your point?
3. Again, whats your point?
4. It's being released on Volcano.
5.Imports are always more expensive, this means nothing. Besides, Amazon UK only have 1 version listed.
6.The album is called 10,000 Days - this is a FACT.
If the version you've listened to is the same as what Tool let the press listen to in the post i made above - then that is the new album. No if's or buts. If i'm proven wrong then i will be very suprised - but i won't be cos i'm right.
I don't think there are any "facts" when it comes to upcomming Tool releases!
Didnt Maynard find jesus and stop releasing albums altogether?
Sorry i figured my post clearly brought the point up of how many references to 2 there is related to this cd. It is being released on Volcano and Sony/BMG.
I reckon a decoy
"Fans will be able to beat the stampede to secure themselves a copy of '10,000 Days' when stores in Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane and Adelaide open at 12:01am on Saturday, April 29 (that's the Friday night) to sell the very first copies of the album available in Australia. Stock of the extravagantly packaged '10,000 Days' will be incredibly limited for the first two weeks - Australian stores will be accepting reduced quantities due to global demand exceeding production capacity, so get in quick or you'll have to wait."
http://www.sonymusic.com.au/news/details.do;jsessionid=0865082E20E379065DF4B10CC691A46B.tomcat3?newsId=20030829003135
http://www.myspace.com/ozbeachbum
7/11/06 - Sydney 1
18/11/06 - Sydney 3
19/11/06 - Newcastle Baby!
1. Recycled riffs: Much of Wings For Marie was used as an intro to Parabol/Parabola on the Lateralus tour. The tabla later on in the album is reminiscent of the Salival version of Pushit.
2. Recycled art: The cover art is an adaptation of Alex Grey's Web of Being. Grey's Lateralus artwork was original for the album.
3. This mysterious import version of 10,000 Days with a 5/16 release date on Amazon and Target.com has been joined by import versions of Tool's other albums, all scheduled for release on 5/16.
4. The amount of secrecy around the recording of this album is/was unparalleled. Anyone in the vicinity of the creative process was greeted with a fat confidentiality agreement. Media who received listening parties were not allowed to report on the session until mid-April (all the while still not receiving an album name or song names). This all seems like overkill, given 1 and 2.
That said, I think 10,000 Days will be widely available as is on 5/2. I just believe that this isn't the full picture and maybe that answer comes on 5/16 (also, let's not forget that 6/6/06 follows shortly after, a Tuesday to boot).
By the way, I have 10,000 Days and it's pretty damn good (WFM/10K Days is fantastic). Should be interesting!
Agreed. I really don't care if the riffs are like other Tool albums or not, this album fucking rocks.
http://toolnavy.com/showthread.php?t=43155
Just saw that on another board...i'm not a member there so I can't read the rest of the thread.
http://www.10000-days.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1278
God damnit Tool.
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
"So my girlfriend Kayla talked to her friend who happens to be a manager at Best Buy today. She said that pre-orders for 10,000 Days have been the highest the store has ever seen. This is great for the store... or is it?
He said that everytime he calls the distributor they give him new info about the album. At first they said that it was coming with a free DVD with footage from the listening sessions, and then the next week said it would be a bonus CD. This story from them changed at least five times, he said, until he finally just gave up. He says he doesn't know what price to put on the CD due to the possibility that it might be a double album. He said that the distributor sounded "nervous" last time he called, like no one at the office knew what was going on. Here's the funny part...
He said that in some of the promo copies that have been sent out, once you open the CD package, there are two disc holders, one at each side, like "Salival." He said that this could mean that there will be a limited number of copies with a bonus disc but said "Making a double album a limited pressing is illogical because it robs the album of its overall effect."
The last thing he said is that when he called the distributor once, he was assured that the album wouldn't leak by any means until April 28th. The person he talked to mentioned the fake Counterfist leak and said that anything before April 28th that leaks is a hoax and not to be taken seriously."
http://www.10000-days.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1278
Good read. I reserved My pearl Jam, and Tool today. I can pick them up on May 2nd.
And I won't make the same mistakes
(Because I know)
Because I know how much time that wastes
(And function)
Function is the key
And I won't make the same mistakes
(Because I know)
Because I know how much time that wastes
(And function)
Function is the key
Is that supposed to be impressive?
OK. Up until I read this post I truly thought that this rumor of the leaked album being a decoy was nothing but BS. Now...? Hmmmm. You made some good points and given me cause to think a bit more about it. I guess we'll know for sure soon.