Nowaday there are more bands you can compare with The Rolling Stones then the Beatles.
exactly, because there's nothing that special about the Stones. the Beatles simply can't even be imitated. they are truly one of a kind. and newsflash: THE STONES WERE INFLUENCED BY THE BEATLES.
Ok, people are incapable of judging The Beatle's output from a purely objective standpoint, because it has forever been drummed into everyone's heads from birth, that The Beatles were the 'start' of rock, and nobody else can come close.
I don't doubt their influence, but on a technical basis, they are no more important than the artists who influenced them in the first place.
Well, on a technical basis, let's applaud perhaps the greatest musician in the history of popular music, my hero Eric Dolphy (getting this out of a feckin' bass clarinet, for gawd's sake):
But, you have to see that nananana stuff in 1968, within the context of its time. There's a famous story of The Stones bringing an acetate of Beggars Banquet to a party at which The Beatles were present, and playing it (thinking The Beatles were finished). Then The Beatles played their acetate of Hey Jude, and Keef pulled an unusual whitey*. Mind you, if Jimi had been there, playing demos from Electric Ladyland, they'd all have been fucked, because The Jimi Hendrix Experience was culturally and musically more important than feckin' anyone, ever, since Homer.
Edit: Whoops! I realise that* phrase might not translate across the pond. I mean, "pulled an adverse physical and psychological reaction and hue to a sudden, shocking input of an unexpected substance, unusual given the individual's tolerance to everything in sight."
Well, on a technical basis, let's applaud perhaps the greatest musician in the history of popular music, my hero Eric Dolphy (getting this out of a feckin' bass clarinet, for gawd's sake):
But, you have to see that nananana stuff in 1968, within the context of its time. There's a famous story of The Stones bringing an acetate of Beggars Banquet to a party at which The Beatles were present, and playing it (thinking The Beatles were finished). Then The Beatles played their acetate of Hey Jude, and Keef pulled an unusual whitey. Mind you, if Jimi had been there, playing demos from Electric Ladyland, they'd all have been fucked, because The Jimi Hendrix Experience was culturally and musically more important than feckin' anyone, ever, since Homer.
Oh hell yeah, Hendrix fucking rules all. I totally understand The Beatles' place in history and importance, but I still think there are plenty of other bands who were better.
Oh hell yeah, Hendrix fucking rules all. I totally understand The Beatles' place in history and importance, but I still think there are plenty of other bands who were better.
As musicians? Sure. As songwriters? That depends upon whether you think less is more, in songwriting. Is In My Life an aesthetically more satisfying song than Sad Eyed Lady of the Lowlands, production values notwithstanding? Is Sad Eyed Lady more important given its influence on the development of lyrical songwriting, and if so, does that make it a better song than In My Life, which doesn't really explore simile, metaphor or other figurature language but talks literally without stylistic device?
What's better?
It's a matter of what you feel like, at the time. I've a couple of degrees in literature, and I could use all sorts of literary theory to big up Sad Eyed Lady. But, as a songwriter, I love the way the melody of In My Life connects with the words, and the ease with which the words can be sung clearly, and covered. They just register. In some ways, Hey Jude is similar. It's "forgettable" in the sense that it doesn't create any clever text or break lyrical cliches, but it sticks in the head, and not in the way that Agadoo by Black Lace or the Mr Blobby Theme sticks, either.
There's a sense of full circle about the way The Beatles used that nanananana section to Hey Jude. In 1968, everyone and their pet dog was trying to be heavy with words. Hey Jude was the first really clever post-rock boom, pop song.
For those doubters, here are just some of the many reasons they are the most important band
They helped popularize rock music, they have influenced pretty much every rock band since them, they have created music with influences of many different genres (many of which were never used in rock music before), they were one of the first (if not the first) to create promotional videos, they influenced the way people dressed, they influenced the way people think, they were innovators in the studio/recording process, the have accomplished many incredibly remarkable records as for as sales and the billboard chart goes, they are one of the few rock bands that is well known in every part of the world.
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Summerfest 2006
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hmm. way back in the 70s in school, we were taught many songs to sing. we were all wee children with no concept of popular music. but one song i remember we all learned was yellow submarine. imagine my surprise when years later i was to utter the words, really? that's a beatles song? when i discovered the truth.
now, and despite the fact that i am hardly the biggest beatles fan, those simplistic songs are the songs i expose my children to most, purely because they are simple. they're easy to sing and catchy as hell.
hear my name
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
, but uses his own beastly vocals. Keith Richards was the first who played hard riffs on the guitar (also Dave Davies from the Kinks did this at the same time). Watts and Wyman were the first who introduced jazz rhythms in the rock music.
Jazz rythms???
Watts had laways played the same rhythm and it has nothing to do with jazz.
The Beatles were doing nothing new, they were only doing things what other bands did before them. And they did it good, that's why they get much more credits then other bands.
no. i know who the most important band of all time is - but i'm not going to tell you because it is not important
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I won't discuss with all those Beatles fanatics here anymore. Keep believing what the teacher told you when you were 5 years old.
thats not even your opinion!! its someone else's...
baaa baaa .. what a sheep you must be...
ooohhh some itialian guy has a website dismissing the importance of The Beatles... oh well in that case i must bury my cd's in a gravel pit and burn all my beatles books... it must be true if some italian guy says its so!!
be your own person... baa baaaa
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
thats not even your opinion!! its someone else's...
So saying The Beatles are the most important band is your opinion...oh wait no, that's what 5 billion other people think too...so they are proberbly right.
The Beatles are the most overrated band in the history of music.
And your opinion might be a case of US post-imperialism trying to compete with UK post-imperialism, faced with the realisation that once the Chinese take over the world finally, their kids will love Ringo and not, er, wait, er, er.....
The Beatles are the most overrated band in the history of music.
i think the rolling stones and zep and elvis are the most overrated, they took something black people were doing long before they were around. those bands just got credit for it cause white people hated blacks
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Please read my post on the third page...............I have a hard time believing anybody can think they are the most important band after what I posted, unless of course you cant get over the fact that you dont like them.
Alpine Valley 2000
Summerfest 2006
"Why would they come to our concert just to boo us?" -Lisa Simpson
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exactly, because there's nothing that special about the Stones. the Beatles simply can't even be imitated. they are truly one of a kind. and newsflash: THE STONES WERE INFLUENCED BY THE BEATLES.
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
Well, on a technical basis, let's applaud perhaps the greatest musician in the history of popular music, my hero Eric Dolphy (getting this out of a feckin' bass clarinet, for gawd's sake):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuiIyDxa750
But, you have to see that nananana stuff in 1968, within the context of its time. There's a famous story of The Stones bringing an acetate of Beggars Banquet to a party at which The Beatles were present, and playing it (thinking The Beatles were finished). Then The Beatles played their acetate of Hey Jude, and Keef pulled an unusual whitey*. Mind you, if Jimi had been there, playing demos from Electric Ladyland, they'd all have been fucked, because The Jimi Hendrix Experience was culturally and musically more important than feckin' anyone, ever, since Homer.
Edit: Whoops! I realise that* phrase might not translate across the pond. I mean, "pulled an adverse physical and psychological reaction and hue to a sudden, shocking input of an unexpected substance, unusual given the individual's tolerance to everything in sight."
Oh hell yeah, Hendrix fucking rules all. I totally understand The Beatles' place in history and importance, but I still think there are plenty of other bands who were better.
As musicians? Sure. As songwriters? That depends upon whether you think less is more, in songwriting. Is In My Life an aesthetically more satisfying song than Sad Eyed Lady of the Lowlands, production values notwithstanding? Is Sad Eyed Lady more important given its influence on the development of lyrical songwriting, and if so, does that make it a better song than In My Life, which doesn't really explore simile, metaphor or other figurature language but talks literally without stylistic device?
What's better?
It's a matter of what you feel like, at the time. I've a couple of degrees in literature, and I could use all sorts of literary theory to big up Sad Eyed Lady. But, as a songwriter, I love the way the melody of In My Life connects with the words, and the ease with which the words can be sung clearly, and covered. They just register. In some ways, Hey Jude is similar. It's "forgettable" in the sense that it doesn't create any clever text or break lyrical cliches, but it sticks in the head, and not in the way that Agadoo by Black Lace or the Mr Blobby Theme sticks, either.
There's a sense of full circle about the way The Beatles used that nanananana section to Hey Jude. In 1968, everyone and their pet dog was trying to be heavy with words. Hey Jude was the first really clever post-rock boom, pop song.
They helped popularize rock music, they have influenced pretty much every rock band since them, they have created music with influences of many different genres (many of which were never used in rock music before), they were one of the first (if not the first) to create promotional videos, they influenced the way people dressed, they influenced the way people think, they were innovators in the studio/recording process, the have accomplished many incredibly remarkable records as for as sales and the billboard chart goes, they are one of the few rock bands that is well known in every part of the world.
Summerfest 2006
"Why would they come to our concert just to boo us?" -Lisa Simpson
We have all those shitty bands thanks to the Rolling Stones. That's why The Beatles are special.
now, and despite the fact that i am hardly the biggest beatles fan, those simplistic songs are the songs i expose my children to most, purely because they are simple. they're easy to sing and catchy as hell.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
And what does it mean with importance and influence?
Apart that there was Elvis before Jagger.
Jazz rythms???
Watts had laways played the same rhythm and it has nothing to do with jazz.
What? Zep, DP and BS were influenced by the blues, nothing else.
The Rolling Stones were also the first who introduced sex, drugs and violence into the rock music.[/quote]
And so?
oh my god, I cannot believe it.
http://www.scaruffi.com/vol1/beatles.html[/quote]
I actually did laugh out load at this!
http://inthepresenttense.blogspot.com/
http://www.scaruffi.com/vol1/beatles.html
I won't discuss with all those Beatles fanatics here anymore. Keep believing what the teacher told you when you were 5 years old.
"Call me Ishmael. Some years ago- never mind how long precisely- having little or no money in my purse, and nothing particular to interest me on shore, I thought I would sail about a little and see the watery part of the world." Herman Melville : Moby Dick
thats not even your opinion!! its someone else's...
baaa baaa .. what a sheep you must be...
ooohhh some itialian guy has a website dismissing the importance of The Beatles... oh well in that case i must bury my cd's in a gravel pit and burn all my beatles books... it must be true if some italian guy says its so!!
be your own person... baa baaaa
No, The Beatles are a good band...but maybe a little bit overhyped.
sir*, you are quite correct!
* or madam, as the case may be!
Zep means fuck all to anyone except rednecks, who needed white people to play Hendrix. Why do you think he was murdered?
And your opinion might be a case of US post-imperialism trying to compete with UK post-imperialism, faced with the realisation that once the Chinese take over the world finally, their kids will love Ringo and not, er, wait, er, er.....
Teasin' ya, by the way. Or am I?
International Sex Park is more important than Suicidal Tendencies.
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
who was james brown, GOD?
-amiri baraka.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
Summerfest 2006
"Why would they come to our concert just to boo us?" -Lisa Simpson