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seriously isn't the NIN hurt way better the Cash

mrwalkerbmrwalkerb Posts: 1,015
edited December 2005 in Other Music
look I really like Johnny Cash and I think he did a great job on Hurt, but fucking whatever come on guys? like when rolling stone reviewed a NIN show and said that Hurt is a Johnny Cash song now I was like fuck off. not becasue he did a bad job and I think he added a whole new context to the song etc etc etc but the original version is so pained and so beautifull it'd be like someone covering Black and people saying ohh that's so much better teh PJ's version.
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    Heart of GoldHeart of Gold Posts: 44
    mrwalkerb wrote:
    look I really like Johnny Cash and I think he did a great job on Hurt, but fucking whatever come on guys? like when rolling stone reviewed a NIN show and said that Hurt is a Johnny Cash song now I was like fuck off. not becasue he did a bad job and I think he added a whole new context to the song etc etc etc but the original version is so pained and so beautifull it'd be like someone covering Black and people saying ohh that's so much better teh PJ's version.

    Don't stone me, but I've never heard the original. I'm a big JC fan though.
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    viggs20viggs20 Posts: 1,296
    Yeah I prefer the original.
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    mrwalkerbmrwalkerb Posts: 1,015
    Heart of Gold wrote:
    Don't stone me, but I've never heard the original. I'm a big JC fan though.

    ohh dear... when you get up tommorrow go to a record store and take the five minutes to listen to this song please
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    psycosmicpsycosmic Posts: 504
    johnny cash's version was very touching and added a whole new context... but this will forever remain trent's song... i prefer the original...

    but i also love how great the stripped down versions of NIN songs sound... ".still" is one of my favourite records of all time...
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    VortexVortex Posts: 8,772
    mrwalkerb wrote:
    look I really like Johnny Cash and I think he did a great job on Hurt, but fucking whatever come on guys? like when rolling stone reviewed a NIN show and said that Hurt is a Johnny Cash song now I was like fuck off. not becasue he did a bad job and I think he added a whole new context to the song etc etc etc but the original version is so pained and so beautifull it'd be like someone covering Black and people saying ohh that's so much better teh PJ's version.


    I prefer Johnny Cash version, sorry guys.

    By the way, regarding to Johnny Cash covering other bands, there´s a Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds bootleg, i think it´s from Vienna in 2001, Nick Cave introduced The Mercy Seat as "a Johnny Cash song"
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    TimberTimber Posts: 38
    mrwalkerb wrote:
    like when rolling stone reviewed a NIN show and said that Hurt is a Johnny Cash song now I was like fuck off.
    Trent Reznor said the exact same thing.
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    Drifting AwayDrifting Away Posts: 270
    JC for the win
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    LedZepFanLedZepFan Posts: 1,009
    Look I respect Johnny Cash a lot, probably more than NIN(whom I probably actually enjoy listening to more), but it is Trents song and I cant help but like his version so much better. The whole "and he played a johnny cash song" thing bugs me too.
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    BUENABUENA Posts: 165
    trent wrote it and it's an amazing song.

    johnny coved it and owned it.

    both versions are great
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    Pat HPat H Posts: 101
    I refuse to compare them.

    They are so different, and in such different contexts that it is impossible.

    I enjoy Cash's version more, but it does piss me off to hear that people think that it is his song, however, any song Johnny Cash did, he made his regardless of whether he wrote it or not.
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    blacknapkinsblacknapkins Posts: 2,176
    The original NIN version goes right through your heart (or should, if you have one.) Johnny Cash's cover is moving and it's recording was well-timed as a final contribution to Cash's musical legacy.

    For me, it'll always be Trent's song, though.
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    The Pen Is MightierThe Pen Is Mightier Posts: 56
    This is Trents song no doubt about it, man. Sure, Cash covered it well, it dosn't mean that it's now his (no matter what trent says, he was probably trying to be respectful to the late great Cash). NIN version is alot better IMO.
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    imspinninimspinnin Posts: 933
    mrwalkerb wrote:
    look I really like Johnny Cash and I think he did a great job on Hurt, but fucking whatever come on guys? like when rolling stone reviewed a NIN show and said that Hurt is a Johnny Cash song now I was like fuck off. not becasue he did a bad job and I think he added a whole new context to the song etc etc etc but the original version is so pained and so beautifull it'd be like someone covering Black and people saying ohh that's so much better teh PJ's version.
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    stonesgstringstonesgstring Posts: 4,613
    Both versions are so different. However I think the Johnny Cash version is more poignant, well to me anyway. I always remember in an interview that Trent said that the song "belonged" to Johnny now anyway. I think he preferred that version maybe.
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    chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    Trent took his song back when he performed it for one of the benefit shows this year... stirring and unforgettable. Problem is I can't remember which benefit show... but he owned hurt and reclaimed it as his own. And Johnny Cash did do a hell of a rendition
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    LedZepFanLedZepFan Posts: 1,009
    chromiam wrote:
    Trent took his song back when he performed it for one of the benefit shows this year... stirring and unforgettable. Problem is I can't remember which benefit show... but he owned hurt and reclaimed it as his own. And Johnny Cash did do a hell of a rendition


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    PearlJamaholicPearlJamaholic Posts: 2,013
    i guess im the odd man out but when i first heard cash's version, before i was a nin fan, i thought "this sucks". i heard the song a few times from my cousin who is a huge nin fan. so when i heard cash's version i thought it was garbage and still do. nothing against cash personally just i think he ruined a great song.

    to me you might as well say stanid's version of black was equal or better.
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    trappedinmyradiotrappedinmyradio Posts: 1,189
    mrwalkerb wrote:
    look I really like Johnny Cash and I think he did a great job on Hurt, but fucking whatever come on guys? like when rolling stone reviewed a NIN show and said that Hurt is a Johnny Cash song now I was like fuck off. not becasue he did a bad job and I think he added a whole new context to the song etc etc etc but the original version is so pained and so beautifull it'd be like someone covering Black and people saying ohh that's so much better teh PJ's version.

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    mrwalkerbmrwalkerb Posts: 1,015
    PearlJamaholic wrote:


    to me you might as well say stanid's version of black was equal or better.

    wait did staind actually cover Black? fuck that's as bad as Seetehr doing Drain You, death to shit bands
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    LedZepFanLedZepFan Posts: 1,009
    mrwalkerb wrote:
    wait did staind actually cover Black? fuck that's as bad as Seetehr doing Drain You, death to shit bands


    actually i think it was a solo acoustic thing aaron lewis did...a few years back it was all over the new rock stations
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    CuriousCurious Posts: 732
    I love both versions. As far as I'm concerned they share very little except the actual lyrics. Both songs stand alone as great pieces of music.

    I was quite horrified when I first heard that Cash had covered what was one of my favourite songs, but I'm glad he did it the way he did... as opposed to the complete nightmare that he made from Rusty Cage!

    I will say though, the Johnny Cash version of Hurt did strike a more emotional chord with me, I think because the first time I heard it was with the accompanying video.
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    LedZepFanLedZepFan Posts: 1,009
    Curious wrote:
    I love both versions. As far as I'm concerned they share very little except the actual lyrics. Both songs stand alone as great pieces of music.

    I was quite horrified when I first heard that Cash had covered what was one of my favourite songs, but I'm glad he did it the way he did... as opposed to the complete nightmare that he made from Rusty Cage!

    I will say though, the Johnny Cash version of Hurt did strike a more emotional chord with me, I think because the first time I heard it was with the accompanying video.

    i actually really liked his cover of rusty cage. he was real good with these covers, making them his own but not ruining them...coughDEVO'sSatisfaction and Are you experienced covers COUGH
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    waves roll inwaves roll in Posts: 159
    Johnny Cash's version hits my heart more. The NIN one is really good but man I can't help but get chills listening to Cash's version. I love the way Cash did it, absolutely mindblowing.
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    D Lo BrownD Lo Brown Posts: 132
    I like Trent's version a LOT more than Cash's version....
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    chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    LedZepFan wrote:
    i think youre thinking of ReAct Now

    Yes I am.. thank you. Trent tore hurt up during that performance and reclaimed it as his own
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    AngusAngus Posts: 376
    the only really good thing about Cash' version is the video.
    Musically and emotionally NIN's version will always be 1000 times better.
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    mookie blaylock 10mookie blaylock 10 Posts: 4,042
    the cash hurt video is likely the best video ever made. i love the nine inch nails version every time i listen to it. i love the cash version every time i listen to it. it's just a great song done by two very different artists in their own way. i can appreciate and enjoy both versions equally, but props to trent for writing it.
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    Jeremy1012Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    i like cash's version but NIN's is awesome. i dont like them particularly except this song which is a stone cold classic.
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    stuckinlinestuckinline Posts: 3,358
    chromiam wrote:
    Yes I am.. thank you. Trent tore hurt up during that performance and reclaimed it as his own
    when trent did hurt for react now....wow, it was so moving. trent was having a tough time singing it, so much raw emotion!

    i gotta say the nin version is much better than johnny cash.
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    Matt8townsendMatt8townsend Posts: 112
    mrwalkerb wrote:
    look I really like Johnny Cash and I think he did a great job on Hurt, but fucking whatever come on guys? like when rolling stone reviewed a NIN show and said that Hurt is a Johnny Cash song now I was like fuck off. not becasue he did a bad job and I think he added a whole new context to the song etc etc etc but the original version is so pained and so beautifull it'd be like someone covering Black and people saying ohh that's so much better teh PJ's version.

    I saw NIN in Buenos Aires last week (still hanging around here after the two PJ gigs)- and Hurt left me on the floor - was fcking awesome. Never been a huge fan - just always liked their cover of Joy Divisions Dead Souls off the Crow album.
    Will definitely now be the first album I buy when I get home.

    As for Staind covering Black - never heard it and will go out of my way not to.
    Every Boxing Day my local pub has these open mike sessions and theres always someone who gets up and does Black - really cool theres so many people there in this little town in England who love the song but every year I have to restrain myself from decking them for butchering it!!! That said, I often do a pretty horrendous version round my mates house at 4 in the morning!!!!!!!!!!!!
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