Is There Hope In ANY NEW MUSIC For Aging Gen-Xers\Grungers ?
DriftingByTheStorm
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I know that I am patheticaly uncool.
When I go bowling at our local lanes (hey there's nothing better to do, and you can drink and get blazed while throwing heavy objects!) I see "kids" and they are at times making fun of stuff I grew up on ...
Once Soundgarden came on, and this girl starts headbanging like it's Motley Crue (oh, ok. I know we used to bang out to the SG, but still) and acting like it's some trumped up 80's revival for them to be playing it ...
The kids behind the counter are always digging on me for my PJ love,
and then they start playing Emo crap (and yes some of it is legitimately Emo, once they even put on Hawthorne Heights!) ...
Anyhow ...
I'm just wondering if there is ANY HOPE of finding new music that seems to mesh with the apparently out-of-style tastes of the late Gen-Xers and Grungers ... you know I LOVE the hardstuff, and a few soft ones thrown in there ... but I can't take all this MMJ style drawn out winey-ballad rock ... yeah, sometimes it's catchy, but it just sounds stale coming out the gate to me ...
Since the start of the new millenium I would have trouble getting past one hand counting the bands I can tolerate listening to...
At the top of that list, despite the derivitative sound which reminded me of like 3 or 4 other female-led bands would probably sit
The Yeah Yeah Yeahs (hey it's catchy, but it actually ROCKS ... HARD)
recently I started listening to
Wolfmother (and they are "alright". A bit too-much Sabbath meets White Stripes for me to stomache, but at least it isn't Emo)
then I would have to give a nod to
Drive-By Truckers
for desperately trying not to sound like everyother goddamn whiney band out there that i've been told i should check out ... but somehow I still wouldn't say they make me enjoy listening ...
and finaly,
sheerly for being capable of proving that you can rock with out making Michael Stipe sound like a Death Metal God ...
The White Stripes (even though i only listen when my friend plays their CDs)
So, is it utterly hopeless? Am i a fucking dinosaur rocker from a bygone era who has maintained zero cred, and has no chance of ever thinking anything rocks ever again? Or are there others out there who are equaly depressed trying to find loud rocking music with a decent message?
CAN SOMEONE RECOMMEND SOME GOOD STARTING POINTS?
BANDS?
WEBSITES TO CHECK OUT?
REFERENCES\MAGAZINES OR ANYTHING THAT IS A RESOURCE FOR NEW MUSIC THAT ISN'T FOR PUSSIES?
Look, I like my share of Violent Femmes and REM and such ... but this new breed of rock just hurts ...
Most of what i hear, sounds like
Music for kids to whine about their mothers with:
"Mommy wouldn't let me watch sunday morning cartoons, and she never let me eat Fruity Pebbles, either!"
When I go bowling at our local lanes (hey there's nothing better to do, and you can drink and get blazed while throwing heavy objects!) I see "kids" and they are at times making fun of stuff I grew up on ...
Once Soundgarden came on, and this girl starts headbanging like it's Motley Crue (oh, ok. I know we used to bang out to the SG, but still) and acting like it's some trumped up 80's revival for them to be playing it ...
The kids behind the counter are always digging on me for my PJ love,
and then they start playing Emo crap (and yes some of it is legitimately Emo, once they even put on Hawthorne Heights!) ...
Anyhow ...
I'm just wondering if there is ANY HOPE of finding new music that seems to mesh with the apparently out-of-style tastes of the late Gen-Xers and Grungers ... you know I LOVE the hardstuff, and a few soft ones thrown in there ... but I can't take all this MMJ style drawn out winey-ballad rock ... yeah, sometimes it's catchy, but it just sounds stale coming out the gate to me ...
Since the start of the new millenium I would have trouble getting past one hand counting the bands I can tolerate listening to...
At the top of that list, despite the derivitative sound which reminded me of like 3 or 4 other female-led bands would probably sit
The Yeah Yeah Yeahs (hey it's catchy, but it actually ROCKS ... HARD)
recently I started listening to
Wolfmother (and they are "alright". A bit too-much Sabbath meets White Stripes for me to stomache, but at least it isn't Emo)
then I would have to give a nod to
Drive-By Truckers
for desperately trying not to sound like everyother goddamn whiney band out there that i've been told i should check out ... but somehow I still wouldn't say they make me enjoy listening ...
and finaly,
sheerly for being capable of proving that you can rock with out making Michael Stipe sound like a Death Metal God ...
The White Stripes (even though i only listen when my friend plays their CDs)
So, is it utterly hopeless? Am i a fucking dinosaur rocker from a bygone era who has maintained zero cred, and has no chance of ever thinking anything rocks ever again? Or are there others out there who are equaly depressed trying to find loud rocking music with a decent message?
CAN SOMEONE RECOMMEND SOME GOOD STARTING POINTS?
BANDS?
WEBSITES TO CHECK OUT?
REFERENCES\MAGAZINES OR ANYTHING THAT IS A RESOURCE FOR NEW MUSIC THAT ISN'T FOR PUSSIES?
Look, I like my share of Violent Femmes and REM and such ... but this new breed of rock just hurts ...
Most of what i hear, sounds like
Music for kids to whine about their mothers with:
"Mommy wouldn't let me watch sunday morning cartoons, and she never let me eat Fruity Pebbles, either!"
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
If I opened it now would you not understand?
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Anyways, I know EXACTLY what you mean. In 1994, when Kurt died, the music died for me. It was never the same. In the last few years, after years of waiting for a new musical movement, something that made an impact on me, music with a purpose, I sort of said to myself, their will never be another grunge movement. I kind of gave up hope.
So I am right here with you! We need another grunge movement, and we need it immediately frankly.
Someone here posted that they were a teacher and they played pj for their class of middle schoolers, and one kid said "whats a pearl jam". I mean it looks kind of bleak, I agree. Its not good when kids not only don't know good rock music, but think Pearl Jam is something like a shoe or some tv or something.
That said this year 2006, I have been most excited about music since the 1990's. Ben Harper has a new record, so do the red hot chili's, Neil Young does as well. So does Pearl Jam of course, and Tool. I dont know if you are into them. Audioslave although they dont have a new record, I like their stuff. Sleater kinney too. Mars volta seems to really have alot of amazing music out as well. Alice in Chains are back together. As are smashing pumpkins. The Strokes are a great band, who remind me of Pearl Jam, in that they do what the hell they want, not what fans want or record companies.
I just wanted to say, I feel completely like you, but have loosened up a bit, as this year really surprised me. I was under the impression I would never feel about music the way I did in the 90's. This year seems to have changed that. Their is some real special music out right now.
So my advice to you is, dont give up hope, and check out the stuff I mentioned if your into it.
I think those of us who grew up on grunge were spoiled. That music was so powerful, and special. Everything else then needs to be compared to it, and thats a tough task because Soundgarden, and Alice and Nirvana and Pearl Jam, in the 90's created some of the best music I have EVER heard, period.
I am hopeful this years music will continue to inspire me. And I am hopeful a new musical movement will start. We need one.
But no there is no hope for kids as long as they watch MTV. If someone can honestly say they like Hawthorne or Good Charlotte, or that fucken one band that sings "Dance, Dance" they like bad music.. They're terrible.
There are good bands out there, you just can't listen to the radio. This msg board is a great way to check out new bandss. I've found a few on here I like that people have suggested.
EV
EV
Backwards is the new forwards.
All the bands you mention are pretty cool. I also love Counting Crows (but then they are a 90s band, so hey...).
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
I have decided to be stuck in the 90's. I never listened to this kinda music at the time so it is all new to me. Good music these days seem to be samey and just plain bad.
I grew up in the 80s but I can't stand the music from the 80's.
The 90's I had an unfortunate brush with techno.
2000's I realised how much I like rock.
There will be another music revolution, as the mainstream always tends to grow stale, but who knows when and who knows if it will be any good? I'm not going to hold my breath waiting though.
Hey man, you'd like the following bands:
engine down
http://www.myspace.com/enginedown
q and not u
http://www.myspace.com/qandnotu
ris paul ric
http://www.myspace.com/rispaulric AND http://www.myspace.com/academyfightsong
wolf parade
http://www.myspace.com/wolfparade
rogue wave
http://www.myspace.com/roguewave
sufjan stevens
http://www.myspace.com/sufjanstevens
i listed the myspace pages so you can just go there and check out their music. hope you find something you like. I've gotta admit that soundgarden makes me cringe, as well as real early pearl jam stuff, but hey, there's much better stuff out there for ya to listen to.
Here are some other recommendations...
Centro-matic
http://www.centro-matic.com
Slobberbone (broke up last year but 3 members are in The Drams)
http://www.slobberbone.com
The Drams (see Slobberbone)
http://www.thedrams.com
Southern Bitch
http://www.southernbitch.org
Opeth
http://www.opeth.com
Enslaved
http://www.enslaved.no
Magnolia Electric Co.
http://www.magnoliaelectricco.com
- Al Swearengen
http://www.cantstoptheserenity.com
I listen to lots of world musc (stuff from EVERYWHERE), blues, jazz, folk, (real) country and classical. If a new band comes along that I dig it is like a cherry on top.
Far moon in a continuing dream
Steam of roasting tea
--Basho
Porcupine Tree
Eleven
Gov't Mule (not new, but Warren Haynes wrecks shit)
Radar Bros. (if you like lazy, dreamy, Atom Heart Mother style psych pop)
Wellwater Conspiracy
Mars Volta
The Black Keys
Ian Love / Cardia
The Flaming Lips
The Fire Theft
Mark Lanegan
old music: http://www.myspace.com/slowloader
As for the thread poster - I don't know. Your tastes are your tastes. Is blues-influenced heavy distortion drenched rocked going the way of the dodo? Possibly. It will never fully go away, of course, there'll always be someone playing it, but it might not be on the radio/mainstream/whatever. Just as there are still bands playing hair metal today, there will probably still be bands playing grunge or whatever people called alternative rock when it stopped being alternative.
I don't think there will be a second coming of grunge. I'm sorry, but you probably feel the same way that hair metal fans felt when Nevermind dropped or Beatles fans when the 70's rolled around. The damn younger generation and their awful music. Granted, the landscape of how music is presented to the masses has changed, but you hopefully get the gist of it.
DriftingByTheStorm - there's no such thing as 'cred' really. You might be out of touch with music now, and your listening habits are probably a little antiquated (Soundgarden released their last album a decade ago!), but that doesn't mean you have to stop trying to listen to new music. There are probably hundreds of bands making music today that I like, but I can't guarantee the same for you, I don't really listen to a lot of blues based rock anymore. I know the rock and emo stuff you hear on the radio is crap, but just ignore it. The alternative and metal stuff I hear on the radio is crap too. I would honestly advise throwing out your radio, or at the very least abandoning it as any source of new music at all. I have maybe seen 2 or 3 decent bands get widespread radio play on any clearchannel top 40 bullshit stations. Alternately listen to something like WFMU.
So if you want me to list bands, I will, but you really would have to go into it with an open mind. Don't discount genres because of what you have heard on the radio.
Last year and so far this year I think were good. Last year we had stuff from Weezer (although not as good as their old album), Foo Fighters, Beck, and NIN. And this year I think has been amazing.
Two recommendations that haven't been mentioned yet - The New Pornographers and The Black Crowes. The New Pornographers don't rock as hard as Wolfmother, but they sound great, their Twin Cinema album is superb, and they don't have that whiney sound that you can't stand.
The Black Crowes are nothing new, but now that they are back together they are on fire. If you weren't into them before, I recommend picking up their CDs. I never cared for them until they got back together last year, and have seen them twice since they reunited. It's pure, straight up rock n roll.
One more suggestion - Satellite Radio. I bought a Sirius receiver for my car in February and I love it. You'll be introduced to all kinds of things, old and new, and your faith in great music will be restored.
Good luck!
I swear to you that the only newer bands like 2000+ that I got into and are or a big fan of are the white stripes, QOTSA, and Eagles of Death Metal. I also have become a fan of a blues-rock guitarist named Joe Bonamassa. Todays music is god awful. Oh and yes, I still dress "grungy" I still wear the flannel shirts, the kakhi pants, and docs. I love the grunge era, it was our musical revolution.
EV Solo: 7/11/11 11/12/12 11/13/12
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
some emo in its hardcore iteration is pretty good. ALl the way up to the late 90's I like, anyways
and you will know us by the trail of dead
arcade fire
broken social scene
built to spill
band of horses
bloc party
the decemberists
doves
hayden
iron and wine
metric
the polyphonic spree
radiohead...still kickin'
smashing pumpkins...soon to be still kickin'
tool
sun kil moon
wilco
the shins
red hot chili peppers
stars
sufjan stevens
wintersleep
wolf parade
at least one of those may tickle your fancy.
if not, you may have a completely different musical taste than that of my own.
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
I've heard a lot of good stuff from dischord in the 00's era, when hardcore punk stopped being all about aggression, but some of the more toned down emo bands I enjoy are SDRE and The Promise Ring (even though they get loads of hate)
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
http://www.shinedown.com
http://www.mercyfall.com
http://www.seether.com
http://www.rosehilldrive.com
http://www.theexitrock.com
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1. Ten
2. Vs.
3. Pearl Jam
4. Binaural
5. No Code
6. Riot Act
7. Yield
8. Vitalogy
Pearl Jam Song Rankings
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1. Black
2. Rearviewmirror
3. Light Years
4. Given to Fly
5. Severed Hand
I've found myself worrying much less about being seen as "cool" by the kids, and much more concerned with getting into the old blues legends, jazz artists, and OLD country. There is so much there to hear and enjoy and I feel that it really helps my knowledge base concerning music. If a little 20 year old wants to talk shit about the music I listen to, I'll quickly turn the conversation to the origins of rock n' roll and how his bands are pure embarrassments to music in general. Knowledge trumps any trend.
try the greenhornes. the white stripes. the drones. brendan benson. ryan adams. minus the bear.
as 7 kettles said, there's so much good stuff out there.
i can't imagine how you've missed it.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
equals the loneliness you get
Bands that I like and suggest downloading a song or two to check out.
Arcade Fire
The Raconteurs
Nine Black Alps
Local H
Incubus
Queens Of The Stone Age
Death From Above 1979
Eighties Matchbox Baseline Disaster check out I Could Be An Angle\m/\m/
The Editors
Be it someone who just posted sympathies, or those of you who posted ehaustive lists of bands for me to check out.
Unfortunately, a lot of what was listed either I was old-hat stuff or new music that I have heard a bit of, and am not particularly excited about ...
but there were at least a half-dozen bands listed that i am going to brush up on. Hopefully I find something that suits my lame tastes ...
otherwise I may just shoot myself.
There is seriously nothing in my music collection that doesn't bore me to tears at this point, so if I don't find any new music, I am completely hosed.
Thanks fuckers!
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Twilight Singers (Greg Dulli of Afghan Whigs new band - their new cd Powder Burns is wicked)
Wolfmother
Rocco Deluca (AMAZING - he sounds a lot like Jeff Buckley at times)
AFI
Ryan Adams
Raconteurs
Shinedown (ok they sound commerical but they have some great songs)
Alter Bridge (same vein as Shinedown)
Avenged sevenfold (amazing musicians if anything else)
Tool (well duh)
There's more decent stuff coming out this year too, there's the new Muse album, Army of Anyone (the singer from filter with the brothers from stone temple pilots) their album is meant to be incredible. oh, and Lost Prophets have a new one too, and of course Audioslave whose album is coming out this summer.